What actually are the big differences between the three Abrahamic religions?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You are right.

    Jews deny Christ was The Truth, personified as an ideal.
    This state of affairs logically reduces to defining God as Reality, which does give birth to Truth as it unfolds.
    Truth is both the image of Reality and its "son."

    Neither the jews nor the Muslims agree with this.
    The jews say G-d is ineffable, or indescribable.
    The muslims have a hundred names for Allah, but do not identify Him either.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You may be immaterial to this, but what about the people in your Nation?
    If they elect to behave sexually immoral, then Welfare, Taxes, and crime become a problem for you because of them.

    And, the nation starts actin g very feminine, especially as half the kids are raised fatherless.
    The mother become either harlots with many boyfriends coming and going, or straight out prostitutes.
    When things get like they are now, half the kids born fatherless bastards, defense of the country internally and externally gets very difficult.
     
  3. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    I think you meant "Jesus said he was the son-of-God?"

    If not, what are the passages you have there?
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    All I'm asking for is a list of the Ten Commandments that God wrote on the stone tablets that he gave to Moses. Pictures are fine. A link is fine. As I wrote before, the Islamic Ten Commandments that were cited have nothing in common with the Ten Commandments God gave Moses.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    I apologize. I didn't realize that was what you wanted.

    The 10 Commandments are in Exodus. They have nothing to do with
    the Law.

    Exodus 20:1-17
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry to inform you but those are NOT the Ten Commandments. Those are ten laws. They are not the Ten Commandments that God wrote on the stone tablets and gave to Moses. People think that they are the Ten Commandments because they are ten concise items that are repeated in Deuteronomy 5:6-21.

    Wiki is wrong = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

    All posters and tablets such as these are wrong = http://www.christrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/10-Commandments-for-Doorposts.png

    http://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ten_commandments__131121204920.jpg

    In fact, everything you have been taught and think you know about the Ten Commandments is most likely completely wrong. https://www.google.com/search?q=ten...GFMq1yATJ8YH4Ag&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=969

    Don't feel bad. Jesus didn't know what they were either.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFL Nice Ad Hom attack. The site could be a Nazi site. That does not make what was posted on the site true.

    The fact of the matter is that the references given you were not the opinion of someone from that site.

    You were given quotes from 3 different Religious Encyclopedia's. That the site happened to post quotes from these encyclopedia's does not somehow make these encyclopedia's not credible.

    By you logic if this site posted a quote from the Bible that would make the Bible not credible.

    If it would make you feel better I could get the quote directly from the encyclopedia itself and link to that. What a fallacious Joke.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but according to numerous Religious Encyclopedia's Jesus did not claim to be the God of Abraham.

    Here they are again for your review. I can find others if you like as well.

     
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    ouch! that's going to smart :alcoholic:
     
  11. Prunepicker

    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. You're probably upset because you really don't have any
    evidence to support your claim.

    The links you gave don't support themselves. Would you care to tell
    me how you believe they do? Or did you just do a search in hopes that
    you'd appear to know what you're talking about?

    I know what I'm talking about. You don't. It's very, very obvious. This is
    a topic you aren't schooled to discuss.
     
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    Congrats. You have earned your wings. You are now qualified to answer in the 'ask tough questions about christianity'.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    It was only a matter of time, with this particular unit.
     
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    Originally, there was no different between Judaism and Christianity. The first Christians were Jews. They simply believed that the Messiah had come. It was not until later that Christians began to create their own separate Dogma, and even then, there was no central dogma for Christianity, it was basically hundreds of seperate sects all teaching whatever they saw as scripture. There were literally over 10,000 books that there up for Candidacy for inclusion in the bible, each one held as scripture by many Christians.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the one who is making the claim that Jesus said he was the God of Abraham.

    I gave you quotes from 3 Religious Encyclopedia's that State that the Trinity is never stated in scripture.
    This is the support for my claim.

    You even stated that you were going to provide evidence in support of your claim.

    You have given nothing in support for your claim other than restating your premise over and over. " Jesus is God ... Jesus is God"

    Do you have nothing better that fallacy ?
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    I've never heard a tough question about Christianity.
     
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    How quaint, cupid is under the impression that atheists would do immoral things simply because they don't have the guidance of an eternal all seeing deity, and conversely, those under the guidance of said deity would uniformly behave in a moral and ethical manner in fear of eternal damnation. It is this very lack of logic that allows "Christians" such as Dave to continously behave in ways detrimental to society knowing they have the "out" of being "reborn". Meanwhile, this lack of personal responsibility is the actual cause of society's woes to present.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because Jesus said so. John 8:58 John 1:1, 14. To very
    easy to understand verses.
    Oh, that's the game. You provided those three examples in an attempt
    to show that Jesus isn't God. They failed. Now you've changed the
    subject of your research. Correct, the word trinity isn't in scripture. The
    inventor of the world wide church of god (a cult) offered $10,000 to
    anyone who could find it. He later believed in the Trinity. Why?
    Because the Trinity exists.
    See above. Jesus is God.
     
  19. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    The word "Trinity" is man's explanation for understanding the idea that Christ and the Holy Spirit are a part of God, the father.
    But the name changed from Christ to Trinity is stated clearly in Rev 3:12:


    Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name, (Trinity, it has been named by the church 2000 years ago).
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Right.

    Christ said, "I am the Truth,... and the way and the life"... (John 14:6)

    Truth has a father.
    Truth is born as Reality unfolds from moment to moment.
    Common sense and logic make Truth, inside the mind of men, a revelation of Reality, which is the one almighty we must each adapt to suffer.

    Truth is the image of Reality, too. (Gen 1:26)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The word "Trinity" is not mentioned in Revelations and nor is 3:12 even remotely speaking of any trinity.

    Quit making things up that do not exist and claiming them to be real.
     
  22. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes, for men, the Truth is the same thing as what Reality consist of, and men can not rally know Reality unless they recognize Truth which is its image.

    This is the basis of the Trinity concept.


    Trinity is the concept of believing in (1) the spirit of Truth, [John 14:6], wherein (2) Truth is those ideas in our head that match perfectly with the actual (3) Almighty Reality, [John 1:1], that exists outside of our mind.

    - - - Updated - - -


    ?
    Do you have a better "new name for Jesus" then?
     
  23. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,... not exactly what I meant, though.

    Christians believe that sexually immoral people can,do, and will, make even their own kids sexually immoral too.
    The hormones start working at age 12.
    The urges are difficult to resist, unless church schooling has forced Gay and Straight sex talk underground.
    Only when society has made the whole idea of sex taboo to talk about or display will illegitimacy, Welfare, abortions, and Child Abuse disappear.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frank, Harry, Beavis. Just because the name is not stated does not mean you get to make one up and claim it as fact.

    Why you are even referring to Revelations in the first place is a bit of a Joke given it is not related the life and ministry of Jesus as presented in the Synoptic Gospels and was not even considered cannon until more than 300 years after Christ died.

    In any case ... Nowhere in Revelations is the Trinity mentioned and it certainly is not referred to in 3:12.

    Quit making things up that do not exist and claiming them to be real.
     
  25. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Jesus didn't even know the Ten Commandments so how could he have been God? When he was asked about them his answer included stuff about loving your neighbor as yourself that doesn't have anything to do with any of the Ten Commandments. Remember, God spent 40 days wand nights with Moses on the mountain writing them down on stone tablets.

    Is there anything that can be construed about loving anyone except God in the Ten Commandments? Eating unleavened bread for seven days during the month of Abib doesn't cut it. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:1-28&version=CEV;MSG;ASV;NKJV;KJV Pay particular attention to verses 1 & 28.
     

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