Shooter is a Canadian, "self radicalized", Michael Joseph Hall.

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  1. cpicturetaker

    cpicturetaker New Member

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    About as WASPY sounding as you can get. We'll no doubt find out how and why he 'self radicalized'.

    Ottawa Chaos: Soldier Killed in Canadian Capital Shooting

    BY RICHARD ESPOSITO AND ERIN MCCLAM


    Canadian soldier guarding the National War Memorial in Ottawa was shot and killed Wednesday, and a burst of gunfire minutes later terrorized Parliament and sent lawmakers scrambling for safety.

    Sources identified the gunman to NBC News as Michael Joseph Hall, 32, a recent convert to Islam who was using the name Michael Zehaf-Bibeau. He was confirmed dead. Canadian media, quoting an aunt, identified the victim as Cpl. Nathan Cirillo of Hamilton, Ontario, a member of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, one of Canada's largest reserve units.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ca...dier-killed-canadian-capital-shooting-n231506
     
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    I'm seems like these "recent radicalized" converts find Islamic Fundamentalism to be a convenient excuse to indulge in their depravity. My guess is that, on average, they probably know next to nothing about the actual religion. Needless to say, there is no shortage of arsehats out there who would love to grab themselves a piece of the worldwide media coverage these acts elicit. Murdering someone is not likely to get much attention, but do it as an act of terrorism and the world takes notice.
     
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    I regret this Islamo-Nazi murder, and I feel badly for Canada, which is home to some of the nicest, friendliest people I've ever known. In some ways, though, they've lived rather sheltered, definitely left-of-center lives, and so the shock must be considerably worse than if this had happened down here in the States.

    To our neighbors in Canada I would say the same thing I've said to fellow Americans many times over the past decade or so -- WHATEVER YOU TOLERATE YOU WILL GET MORE OF! Both of our countries need to get the hell rid of Islamo-Nazis, where ever they are, whatever disguise they hide behind, in spite of all their claims to be members of a "peace-loving, gentle religion". Read their ****ing book -- the Koran!

    Read all the many passages containing explicit orders to "the Faithful" about how they must commit murder and ruin on those they curse as being "infidels". See these vicious creatures for what they really are -- and then rid our countries of the violent, destructive ones that have turned our cities into hellholes where they can carry out a big "jihad" to honor their loyalty and devotion to their god....
     
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    It's a damn shame, though one is moved to wonder if their Prime Minister will ultimately end up pulling an Obama over this incident and rather than risk angering Muslims by officially labeling this an act of Islamic terrorism will instead also call it the Canadian equivalent of workplace violence as in the Fort Hood massacre occurrence? Most likely Canada's leftwingers will insist upon it.
     
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    You are very savvy... I agree.
     
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    Or simply stoned out of his frigging mind! Long rap sheet for drugs--all of it. He radicalized fairly recently. Even had his passport pulled.

    (Is it wrap or rap sheet?? I don't think I've ever written the word).
     
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    Give it a rest. Obama could stand in front of a podium at RFK stadium and call JESUS CHRIST the SON OF GOD and the right would say he didn't say it ....

    Right
    Loud enough
    In the right order
    Emphasis on the wrong syllable
    He didn't have the right expression on his face

    Yeah, we get it! A black man with authority doesn't count! You've told us a million times in a million different ways!
     
  8. Gatewood

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    Race card play. Drink! Thanks.

    Actually it was a sincerely expressed question, Canadians are even farther left on the whole in the ideological running of their nation than is the United States even under Obama and they pretty much make it a borderline crime to publicly express much in the way of conservative thoughts; calling anything that threatens their version of Political Correctness a hate crime.

    So . . . will the Prime Minister pull an Obama or not when it comes to officially labeling this event?
     
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    At least the Canadians had the balls to call it the terrorism it really is.
     
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    The Old Testament in the Bible contains the same language and orders found in the Koran. People should stay away from all Middle East ethnocentric religious fairy tales. Generally speaking it seems that the recent converts are the problem.
     
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    All BS. He had a ten year rap sheet of drug arrests. Used to be if you wanted to go out famous, you took out a school. Now all you have to do is claim to be a Muslim and you will be front page news for a week. This was an attention-seeking mentally ill person homicide-suicide. No more, no less.
     
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    I was going to "like" this post, but that isn't what a really mean.

    The poster is correct and I believe his post is the truth but it's an ugly truth and there is nothing to like about it.
     
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    its just a wake up call for canada and a message....side with the US and you will be a target for terrorism. this is also a big reason why people in the US are so proactive when it comes to self defense and concealed carry. These kinds of things can happen to anyone anywhere at any time. there are no rules or moral code when it comes to terrorism or crime.

    seems like they are pushing for these attacks in Canada, Europe, and Australia. Basically all of our allies trying to push the populace of those places to be more anti US foreign policy in regards to fighting terrorism. get the populace to force the politicians to pull support for the USA or continue to recruit terrorists from those areas. Clearly they have not been following the actions of the President.
     
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    OOps! They called it TERRORISM by an Islamic terrorist. Holy cow, whadda think about that? You know, telling the truth and saying it like it is and all that . . .
     
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    It's weird. I wonder if Obama will correct their labeling in public with an attendant lecture on how they should be more tolerant of cultural differences?
     
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    Yeah and that's a refreshing change from the Dem Party's way of dealing with violent terrorist activities inside the United States. Labeling the Fort Hood murder spree workplace violence rather than what it really was, an act of horror by an Islamic terrorist and traitor to his own nation.
     
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    By not calling it out as exactly what it is, the terrorist wins. They make us (America) afraid to speak the truth about it when it happens, and fear is exactly what they're after. We need a big pair of brass ones for a change. Perhaps Canada could lend us theirs.
     
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    Obama is just lying to hold up his legacy. He doesn't want to hear five local terrorist attacks happen on his watch. It's all about the history books. He knows that in a few years will forget his lies and have a record of little to no terrorist attacks on America under his watch.
    Which we all know is a lie. The man is one of the biggest liars we have ever had in office.
    I wonder what he was trying to call the Boston bombing. Kitchen appliance mishap?
     
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    There are numerous battles and wars in the Old Testament, and many of those were "civil wars" among various Jewish factions. But, yes, you can find all kinds of internecine battling and wars -- even among people who have been viewed as peaceful and religiously serene for centuries. Hindus, and even Buddhists have had their own internal wars, and certainly Christians and Muslims have, too.

    But I'm talking about NOW -- in 2014! The Jewish people had their big wars with themselves and neighbors well over 1,900 years ago! The Christian Crusades in the Middle East ended well over 700 years ago! But Islam is the only major world religion in the last century that practices a doctrine, TODAY, that demands the forced conversion of all "infidels" or their destruction.

    Most people today don't really care what religion someone believes in -- but in a closely-intertwined 21st-Century civilized world there is simply no place for these Islamo-Nazis. Any religion or philosophy that actively promotes and engages in acts of terror and barbarism is an enemy to all humanity and needs to eliminated now!
     
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    At the risk of inciting a rash of off-topic postings from leftwingers who adore loathing her I am reminded of a quote from Sarah Palin in regards to Barack Obama's foreign and domestic policy tendencies. (paraphrased) "If you haven't got a big stick Mr. President then grow one!" That advice is also pertinent where the generic perspective Left of Center inside the United States is concerned. Anyway, good for the Canadian government for already having a big stick where calling a terrorist act an act of terrorism regardless of who's tender sensibilities that blunt statement might offend as a result.
     
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    Why (*)(*)(*)(*) off Canada though?
     
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    Hell we should be satisfied if the man doesn't announce to the nation just before the trial starts, "If I'd had a son he would have looked like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev."
     
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    To my knowledge, Obama still has yet to articulate an accurate understanding g of the global war against radical Islam.

    The essence of PC(at a minimum) is the inability to honestly identify a problem and thus you get lots more of it.
     
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    First, why does it matter what we call it?

    Second, is it really terrorism? How do you define terrorism?

    If a guy has been a muslim for about 3 days and decides to kill someone, is that an example of islamic terrorism, or just some crazy guy?
     
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    Interestingly, I think Sara's clear unambiguous rhetoric is exactly what conservatives and many in the middle yearn for.

    Of course the left hates her and thus attacks AND ridicules her. It is a sign of her accuracy. Hit the donkey in the tail and watch the howling commence. And personal attacks. It is the modern Dem party m.o. Name a standard-bearing conservative who isn't/wasn't subjected to such ad hominem arguments ?

    If we had a man with solid credentials who spoke as Sarah does? Calling a spade a spade Instead of trying to move to the center and thus diluting his ideological principles? He'd win easilly.

    Some say that is Cruz. I just wish he had more popular physical appeal ( given the superficiality of the electorate) and looked less like a lounge singer.
     

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