Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

The State of Hawaii has commented on the computer generated copy posted on the White House Website- glad to show you again:

On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.



NEIL ABERCROMBIE
GOVERNOR
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S
REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF
‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by
President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth,
which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to
President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i
Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the
Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the
department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in
Hawai„i.”


Just because you are unwilling to believe what the State of Hawaii says doesn't mean that they haven't commented.

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There is no 'evidence'- and your claims have been refuted.

Which is why there nothing happening in Birther world other than Mike Zullo holding press conferences and promising Birthers that the sun will come out tomorrow- tomorrow- but certainly no action.

 

Are you claiming that the original on file in Hawaii is a forgery- and that Fukino/Onaka and Fuddy are not competent to recognize that?

You are the one claiming that a 10 year old could tell it was a forgery- but not Onaka- a PHD who works extensively with birth certificates.

Maybe you should try to get your story straight.

Do you think the birth certificate on file in Hawaii is a forgery?

If not- then what relevance does 'layers' on an image matter- since the experts Onaka/Fuddy/Fukino have all confirmed that the original shows that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii?

 

Eisenhower was never ordered to produce a birth certificate. There is no evidence he ever actually showed his birth certificate to anyone- he ordered one for the same reason Obama ordered a copy of his- in case some wingnuts demanded proof of his place of birth.

There would have been just as much reason for any mid-wife to falsify births.

Hawaii would have been no different? Do you think that Asians cross the Pacific like illegals cross the Rio Grande?

LIke I said- amusing fantasy you create- not a piece of evidence to support it.

 

There are three versions-
a) The original on file- like all originals kept sealed and protected so no one can alter it- but copies can be made of and can be refered to by authorities for verification
b) The certified photocopies that President Obama requested and which the State of Hawaii provided- and refer to on their website- these two certified photocopies are legal documents that could be used in any court of law to establish place and time of birth- these BC's were shown to reporters at the time- and a photo was taken by one reporter who handled them- Savannah Guthrie.
c) Internet images of the certified photocopies posted on the White House website- these are not legal documents- they were scanned and uploaded so all Americans can see them- these are the only images your 'experts' have ever viewed- none of them have looked at an original anything- nor at any image that could be used for legal purposes.

 

if you could do that, you would have done so already instead of posting an article which only restate your claim. If you have a SCOTUS ruling that shows that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, you would have presented it by now.

 

you failed to answer the question. Have you experts examined the document or only an image on a computer screen of a digitized scanned image of the document?

 

I did, you don't believe SCOTUS.

 

you haven't shown me anything from SCOTUS. When you do, I'll read it.

 

and it is obvious that that part about "that may be born beyond the sea" just seemed to slide right by your synapses without registering, eh?

 

SCOTUS specifically rejected your argument.

Appuzzo's definition does not exist in reality.

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I can't tell if birthers are simply poe's or if they really are that retarded.

 

just as the part about under "Provided: the father is a citizen of the U.S." slides right past your randomly arranged slightly evolved more than an ape's brain cells.

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Of course you remain wrong. Apuzzo is one of a multitude of lawyers agreeing with the Founding Fathers and SCOTUS and you are a nobody. Just someone posting on an internet forum because you have no life.

 

Seems to me he needed it to get on the ballot, but then your the apparent expert.

Many Asian's lived in Hawaii, visited or whatever, just like open boarders existed in South Texas. When Statehood was ratified, citizenship became a financial benefit, not much later welfare.

For the record, in the 50's I crossed the border in Laredo many times, no entry booths or anything, even if driving an auto, same near Douglas Arizona in the early 60's. People just went back and forth at will, no problems, no drugs, they did sell dead dogs, but life was a lot different in those days.

 

Clearly, your knowledge of the English language is so rudimentary that you are unaware that the part about the father being a citizen of the U.S. specifically REFERS to those children "that may be born beyond the sea". "Subordinate clauses" obviously were not as important to you as shop class. DOn't expect the rest of us to dumb ourselves down to your level, however. I paid attention in English class. The colon rather than a period after the underlined "citizens" gives it away to most folks. Obviously not to you. Get yer deer last year?

 

and the yellow highlighted paragraph, the punctuation of which obviously befuddles you, is only a document from Congress, not SCOTUS. Show me this supposed Supreme Court Majority Opinion that supports your belief that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. You tap-dance real purty, but can you come up with the quote or just more dancin'?

 

sometimes, irony is a soft and subtle little thing.... sometimes, it veritably SCREAMS at you!

 

Anyone can see it, it is on the White House website.

No, examiners meaning top experts in the fields of Adobe programs and certified document examiners. The officials in Hawaii are just employees with not expert certifications in programing or document examination.

They also have refused to comment on the authenticity of the fraudulent computer-generated copy posted on the White House website. They said they delivered the documents which were certified (not authenticated) to the White House. I am glad that they determined that. Now let's have a look at the actual birth certificate so that we can all determine that.

Your post supports my argument. There is no comment there verifying that the one the state issued and the one posted on the website are the same.

What birth certificate on file in Hawaii? Not one government official ever said there was a birth certificate on file. Onaka never claimed to see the birth certificate. He only claimed someone else said they saw it. If Onaka would have a look at the one the White House posted, maybe, being the PHD document expert you say he is, maybe he could tell us that it is authentic. He has never done that.

The layers matter because it is a cheap forgery and everyone knows it.

a) I don't think there is an original, that is why they made

b) The certified photocopies that allegedly certified by the State of Hawaii, that no document examiner ever has gotten to look at, as far as we know, nobody from Hawaii has ever seen this document because the printed version was printed from

c) a PDF file that the White House had posted on their website providing further proof that the entire thing is a fraud, a hoax, and a forgery.

The evidence points to all of this, points which I am sure you are not aware of because you dismiss it out of hand instead of reading the proof that I have provided over and over.

They examined the forged computer-generated PDF which the White House posted online. It was proven to be a forgery through multiple techniques by expert computer programmers and certified document examiners.

 

document forgery experts certainly would not be "experts" if they claimed to rule on the authenticity of a document they had only seen as a PDF file. That is ridiculous. Can you type that feces with a straight face?

 

Why does the fonts not line up? Why do the dates and the stamps appear on separate layers? Why are the margins misaligned? Why is some of it colored and pixilated and some of it is single color and solid?

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How do you explain the kerning?

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This video (and the 3 that follow) explain why this is an obvious fraud:

[video=youtube;7s9StxsFllY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY[/video]​

There's lots more evidence out there on the web. If you want me to present more, let's keep it going.

 

you don't seem to understand.... all of that has everything in the world to do with the computer image. It has nothing to do with the actual document.

 

Appuzo is a failed lawyer who has been repeatedly sanctioned.. He's a crackpot and the claim that other lawyers agree with him is bogus.. Lawyers can and do read the statutes that were posted to you yesterday.

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LOLOL.. Fairly typical of the birther dimwits..... There's zero critical thinking.

 

still waiting for you to explain the use of the COLON in the highlighted paragraph instead of a period, and still waiting for you to produce the SCOTUS majority ruling which would indicate that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

 

Obama's father was in the US on a student visa and as such he was under US "jurisdiction".......

 

Nope. I have court rulings that say I'm right.

The founding fathers didn't agree with you either. And lol @ SCOTUS is nobody.
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lol, so what does posting on the Internet make you?

 

No expert has ever claimed it is a forgery. 3 experts have authenticated it.

 

Birthers seem to be "Christians" who tell a lot of lies and refuse to read the statutes.