If you want to tick off Muslims, don't expect my sympathy.

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Free speech should always be free. But when you openly go picking a fight with Muslim radicals, what obligation do we have to approve of what you say/do ?
     
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    You agree about free speech? Apparently not. It's the First Amendment, not the Thirteenth, nor the Twenty-Seventh, or the Forty-Third, or the One-Hundred-Eleventieth. It's the First. Without it you got nothing.

    Though we are on the same page when it comes to Muslim radicals. Their capacity to intimidate, as we have pointed out many, many times on these boards, is outsized and disproportionate. We get that. But if we allow them the power to dictate to us through violence and intimidation on one thing, where are they going to stop? And they DO need stopping. This is not a game.

    [Edit: Muslim radicals most certainly are led by logic and morality. Theirs. They are way more certain and serious about it than just about anybody else on the planet is. Certain enough to willingly die for it. That sort of motivation tends to win out over any squishy, wavery, wishy-washy touchy-feely misty-eyed rose-colored-glasses liberal bullcrap every time. Which is why this is not the time to go all wobbly.]
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said this magazine didn't have the right to publish what they did. I'm questioning the news and agenda behind it. I don't expect morality from Muslim radicals. They are savages looking for a fight. I just don't understand why these magazines go and volunteer themselves for such a thing.
     
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    Not even in the same ballpark guy. You're comparing a rape victim to a bunch of hypersensitive crybabies, who are not victims. You wanna try again??
     
  5. Brewskier

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    So, basically, your argument is "if you're crazy and violent enough, you get a pass on controlling what I'm allowed to do". Is that it? Way to empower them, bro. Basically all they have to do is increase their attacks whenever we do something they don't want us to do, and you'll be there to say "we shouldn't have done that!".
     
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    If I write an article considered legal in my country then my country has an obligation to protect me going about my lawful business. This is not about what I say or do it is about who decides what I can say or do, my country or a bunch of religious nutters?

    Who do you want to decide what you can say, the lawmakers of your country or an outside agent?
     
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    Isn't he the same guy crying all the time about how western men are emasculated?

    LOL!
     
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    I condemn Christians and Muslims equally that break the law when they think someone is blaspheming their religion

    your God may have considered it a sin, but your God's law is not the law of the land

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  9. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The country has a legal obligation to protect you, but the nation doesn't have to agree with what you say.
     
  10. Brewskier

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    What's funny is he talks all the time about how society should not validate the behavior of unruly blacks. Yet, here he is saying that we should not practice freedom of expression because Muslims are going to attack us in response. He's handing them a lot of power.
     
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    Muslims and Progressive-Extremists commit more violent acts for their beliefs than Christians do. You know it so cut the crap.
     
  13. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    So where was the deity that got mocked? Nowhere to be seen. Just because three crazy people showed up with guns ablazing doesn't mean that their deity is real. It just shows that they are superstitious twits. The sooner all religions are buried in the trash heap the better off the world will be.
     
  14. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False analogy. Muslim radicals and thug blacks are itching for an excuse to get into a fight. My issue is when some in the west go out of their way to enrage them. There was no gain or need for this type of magazine cover.
     
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    No one has asked you to, and the french satirists didn't, the question is are you prepared to defend their right to say it.

    So who do you think should dictate what you say? I am interested to know.
     
  16. Brewskier

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    It's not a false analogy. The idea is that people in a civilized society shouldn't be held captive by the demands of uncivilized and violent people. You're advocating that they should be.
     
  17. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I absolutely defend their right to say it. I just don't want them demanding my approval of what they're saying or sympathy when they willfully stick their hand in the hornets nest.
     
  18. RiseAgainst

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    Muslims are a sizeable minority in France. It is like how Family Guy and American Dad cracks jokes at Mexicans. They are literally everywhere in this country so comedians/cartoons are bound to poke fun at them every once in awhile.

    Same for muslims in France.
     
  19. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, they can say what they wish. But why must I defend what they say ?
     
  20. Brewskier

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    Using Channe's logic, those Mexicans who object to Family Guy and American Dad making fun of them should riot every time, in order to stop those shows from doing this. Then Channe can come in and say "well, what do you expect them to do?"

    It's the bigotry of low expectations.
     
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    If i didnt know any better i would say you just insinuated that mexicans are more civilized than muslims.

    That is a terrible record for muslims to have.
     
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    Enraged radicals are less dangerous in the long run than hidden radicals. They need to be drawn out to light. And what better way than to mock them?

    This goes for any ideology prone to violence.
     
  23. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's about fighting the good fight. What was gained in all this ?
     
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    I suggest you learn what your country is all about...you really don't get it

     
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