Palestinian terrorism in Tel-Aviv ( 20 Israeli citizens are wounded )

Exactly, I am merely demonstrating the falacy and intellectual dishonesty of people who routinely and mindlessly resort to undeniable collective punishment while accusing others of it. You are not trying to be consisent in condemning collective punishment, you condone, support and practice it when you agree with its goals.

 

funny, the USA supports an economic boycott of Northern Ireland, through the MacBride Principles.

But this is ok, cause its not Israel.

 

Comparing pinpoint attacks against terror targets with carpet bombing is idiotic and absurd. Indiscriminate bombing, terrorism and boycotts are the MO of the enemies of Israel and all these methods fall under the category of collective punishment to a tee.

 

does the UN consider economic boycotts to be "collective punishment"?

 

Quit with your absurd deflection. What is being discussed are the laws of war not economic/cultural boycotts. The latter can not be constituted as collective punishment and are therefore legal. On the other hand, Israel's overwhelming use of military force - a war crime - does.

The laws of war, also known as international humanitarian law, are primarily found in the Geneva Conventions. Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, to which Israel is a party, specifically forbids collective punishment. It says, "No protected person [civilian] may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed ... Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited."

https://www.icrc.org/ihl/com/380-600038

Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians during Operation Protective Edge constituted a deliberate policy to punish the entire population of Gaza. Your vile attempt at a deflection, clearly intended to excuse this illegality, is repugnant.

 

Yes. It fits the definition of punishing the entire group of people indiscriminately. It's a more clear case of collective punishment by far than military actions against terror organizations , terrorist governments and their infrastructure.

 

except boycotts are legal.

 

You are only being abusive and not addressing any of the issues raised. You have no arguments so can only resort to abuse.

 

You have absolutely no case against Israel, you can't prove a single case of collective punishment (as deliberate retribution to the civilian population for the actions of Hamas). The case against Hamas targeting residential centers and towns and their supporters boycotting the entire country are clear cases of collective punishment of Israel though.

 

Israel has said that their embargo upon Gaza was to force the people to rise up against Hamas.

 

I have already reported you

 

LOL, Israel has aready taken large swathes of gaza and controls all its space. It also has restricted numerous supplies through gazan territory. The idea that these policies are only spefically targetted at Hamas is preposterous.

 

All palestinians do is commit acts of terrorism.

And no one does anything.

It is just fine if palestinians attack Israelis, but war crimes for Israel to fight back.

The world sure is stupid.

 

Its only immoral when Israel does it, and then only when agreed to by the fringe left

 

Boycotts are not relevant in the context of the discussion. Anyway the actions of the BDS movement are perfectly legal under international law. Collective punishment is not. If you can't debate honestly then leave this thread. It logically follows that those undertaking actions of retribution are the Palestinian's since it is their land that is being illegally encroached upon.

 

People know the truth but the PC crowd has cowed the populace into being silent when the IslamoFascists do their thing...

 

Exactly. Please, help me understand one thing. If the US government is so high powered and american troops are ready to spread peace in democracy over the world why do American authorities don't take real measures to deescalate the conflict?It seems that they need really big fire in the Middle East.No?

 

As it happens I got my signature from an interview between Amy Goodman and Henry Siegman. He is former Executive Director of the American Jewish Congress.

FYI

The entire interview can be found here

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/1/a_slaughter_of_innocents_henry_siegman

The bold and underlined part is my signature and here is where I got it from. I suggest you read both interviews so that you may get some knowledge with which to discuss things. He makes many good points which it would do well for you to look at.

As for rivers of blood I suggest you look at Israel's attempt to assassinate him and the many many assassinations by Israel with almost always 'collateral damage' of civilians frequently children, the 500+ children killed this summer as well as the other civilians which together represented at least 70% of the over 2,100 Palestinians killed by Israel this summer and then we could go back and back and back. It needs to end.

 

You once again try to bait and equate the treatment of Jews by Nazis with the existence of Israel if one follows your ridiculous comment. It would appear one was a proposed boycott of Nazi Germany for its treatment of Jews in Germany, the other who knows what boycott you refer to because you are too lazy to indicate which one you mean but presumably ones that are called on in reference to challenging Israel's right to exist.

There have been many and none have worked. Israel still exists.

Hey how about we call a boycott on anything Muslim because of Muslim terrorists or a boycott on anything Palestinian because of what Hamas does right Ron? Oh no wait, you would call that unfair collective punishment, its only when it collectively punishes Israelis its acceptable. Right.

Unlike you I don't support any collective punishment. I don't like it when the Israeli government does it to Palestinians any more than when (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) leftists or the PA, EU, etc., try do it to Israel.

 

Do you think before you write? Firing rockets at civilians is a deliberate and intended decision. It has nothing to do with lack of sophisticated weaponry.

The missiles are deliberately aimed at civilians. They are not aimed at military targets and then miss and drift into civilian areas. They are aimed at civilian areas where there are no military sites so your assertion is a crock.

>>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<< A deliberate decision to kill and terrorize civilians has nothing to do with a lack of aim or sophistication, it has to do with the inherent nature of terrorism, to attack and kill unarmed civilians to try strike fear into the general population.

Oh wait the idiot who attacked the innocent civilians the other day, he was aiming at a military site and he missed.



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indeed, and they claim the Occupation of Gaza is offer, even though its clearly not.

 

Wrong they are pointed at cities and towns, which contain civilians and military personnel.

And in the same way the IDF itself is pointed at Gaza, which contains civilian and military personnel and closes off all its space.

 

Israel must and will avenge this Evil IslamoManiacal Terror Attack. Not only must the Terrorists be hunted, but their support network must and will be liquidated.

 

So are you saying that when Hamas shot at a field hospital that the IDF set in Erez crossing to treat Gazens it was a valid target for Hamas to shoot at?

BTW- from hospitals in Gaza terrotists shot from there, when from the Israeli field hospital for the Gazens there was no shooting thoward Gaza.

 

(Out of a box of cornflakes)