ISIS Continues Destruction of Islamic Historical Sites

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  1. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    I heard on the BBC tonight that they are bulldozing yet another site, one of the most revered in Syria, and the third one they have demolished in their current wave of violence.

    Down through the years Islamic jihadists have smashed revered sites wherever they have gained ascendency, destroying the historical artefacts of Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Jewish, and other peoples as well as their own.

    Even Mecca is not safe. There, the caretakers of Mecca have destroyed the tombs of Mohammed's most trusted associates and wives, even converting the home of his first wife into public toilets.

    The article is fairly detailed except for the more recent atrocities and give a sense of what would happen to our records of human history and knowledge if these medieval fundamentalists were to succeed in their goal to annihilate everything they disapprove of.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4973/destruction-middle-east-antiquities
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;KbVElE1pSTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbVElE1pSTU[/video] very said they must be working for the NWO only the NWO wants culture destroyed like this
     
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    And where is Obama on all this?



    Playing golf, right?
     
  4. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, Trucker.

    I really don't know what to say.

    It is like being at the funeral of a culture.

    I notice those destroying the artifacts were very careful regarding their own safety.
    The whole action was very deliberate and intentional.

    I hate seeing actions provoked by such disrespect of others and their beliefs.
     
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    Pronin24 New Member

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    When we trumpeter Bush for removing Saddam in Iraq, American military commanders did not mind pilfering of archeological values in historical museums in Iraq. Even some American scientists were joking on this matter at 60-Minutes interviews. War is always anti culture.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're only humans, and stealing is human and is not condoned on any level. Has nothing to do with destroying archeological artifacts - that's a moslem thing. Remember Hamas bulldozing archeological ruins on Gaza beach to make room for training grounds? Want more examples?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what Bush's war has created.

    I hope he is proud.

    :(
     
  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush is responsible for moslems in Gaza bulldozing archeological digs to make room for terrorist training ground? :wall:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is about ISIS in Iraq.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is. You gave your theory that it is Bush who's responsible for this; I say, Islam is.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No Iraq invasion= No ISIS.

    this is a fact.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is not limited to ISIS and as a result, cannot be blamed on Bush:


    LONDON -- They have destroyed the iconic Buddhas of Bamiyan, smashed down the fabled “end of the world” gate in the ancient city of Timbuktu and even called for the destruction of Egypt’s ancient pyramids and the Sphinx.

    Islamist movements across the world have developed a reputation for the destruction of historic artifacts, monuments and buildings.

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...s-are-intent-on-destroying-cultural-artifacts
     
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    What bothers me the most is that when ancient Christian sites were destroyed in Syria by the Al Nusra/Al Queda foreign jihadists, not a word was said. After all they were on our side. But then again not a word was said when they were committing genocide on Syrian Sunnis, Christians, Shias and Alawites.
    :angel:
     
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    Bush was too weak to be president. He prided himself in being able to work with the Democrats in Texas and getting things done, and I guess he tried to do the same in Washington. He inherited the sociopath neo cons from the Clinton administration, and he foolishly tried to work with them. The Iraq war was the end result. Anyway that's how I see it. :oldman:
     
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    Where were you getting your information from at that point?

    I have just been assuming that our Western journalists don't do a good job in that region. I'm certain if all of that had been properly reported there would have been a reaction to it.
     
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    From your linked article:

    "The wrecking ball has also been swung to significant effect in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia.

    According to an estimate in 2005 by Sami Angawi, an expert on Islamic architecture, at least 300 historic buildings were demolished over the previous 50 years.

    The reason, espoused by the Wahhabi movement within Islam, was that people might start idolatrously worshipping structures associated with Muhammad, rather than God.

    David Thomas, professor of Christianity and Islam at the U.K.’s Birmingham University, said iconoclasm was “a strain in all religions unfortunately,” but added that was “present at the moment in Islam more than anywhere else.”

    In contrast, he said that there were “teachings in the Quran that are actually very open and tolerant. There are teachings that accept other ways than the way given to Muhammad.”

    And Thomas said some Islamists were in danger of committing the very sin they despise.

    “The Taliban have an attitude that almost shades into idolatry itself. They are saying they know what the truth is, that they have a monopoly on the truth and that they can therefore almost take the place of God in judging who is right and who is wrong.” [boldface added]

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...s-are-intent-on-destroying-cultural-artifacts
     
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    why do Christians and Muslims always destroy other religions religious stuff when they take over? we have lost so much history\knowledge this way.....

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    Give us a break... that's like saying no 9/11, no ISIS. It's about the same stretch of irrelevance. No 9/11 = No Iraq, No Iraq = No AQI, No AQI + Syrian Civil War = No ISIS. Yawn, stop blaming Bush for everything. If you don't think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 then your just ignorant of the broader strategy required to deal with the larger problem 9/11 represented. Geez blame Clinton for 9/11 and then blame the USSR for the Cold War requiring US presence in the Mid East, then blame Hitler for WW2 bla bla bla....

    The topic is about the Islamic Jihadists having a terrible habit of destroying ancient artifacts... they are not doing it to get at the US or Bush, they are doing it to destroy anything which might contradict with their religious dogma.
     
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    ISIS has quickly become a problem for all Western nations, like Al Qaeda.

    Saddam Hussein kept a tight lid on inter-Muslim sectarian violence. Bush removed that lid.

    If Bush had not invaded Iraq, ISIS/Al Nusra/Al Qaeda in Iraq, would NOT exist.

    this is a fact.
     
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    It's not a correct association of causality, and therefore is misleading....more accurate to say ISIS would not have come into existence if Syria had not spiraled uncontrollably into Civil War - which was Obama's fault for ignoring the lessons of Libya.
     
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    I haven't heard of Christians doing this lately. If you have, please provide a link.
     
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    sadly there is still examples of it even to this day

    "Christians Arrested for Destruction of Statues "

    https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2007/06-June/newsarticle_4889.html/

    "DUBLIN, June 5 A pastor and two associates from Mt. Carmel Theological College in Kandy, Sri Lanka, were arrested on May 27 and charged with destroying Buddhist statues."

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    Thank you.

    That is a mixed situation in Sri Lanka that I was unaware of.

    In that situation, however, it is not yet proven that the Christians actually did the damage, though. One has already been released with a solid alibi.

    Since they are seeking converts and the local Buddhists are against this, of course there could be a smear campaign going on. The article says there were numerous violent attacks on Christian churches by Buddhists in 2002, and that the Buddhists are now taking political action against Christian conversion activities.

    In the case of the jihadist attacks, on the other hand, we are getting numerous videos as proof.
     
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    Of all the horrible things done by ISIS, this is by far the worst. Those artifacts are some of the oldest and most prized archaeological of pre-Islamic Mesopotamia. Some of them pre-date Islam by 2,000 years.

    Populations grow back, modern buildings can be rebuilt, but these things are utterly irreplaceable.
     
  25. FreshAir

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    Christians and Muslims have a history of this, if Christians took over the middle east, they would try to destroy all things Muslim too I am sure


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