Report - Pedophilia more common among "gays"

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  1. JavisBeason

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    one has to wonder, why are they protecting such behavior?
     
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    I would only be speculating. As a dad, I am disgusted by pedophiles. If we can reduce the rate of pedophilia by targeting such a small subsection of the population then why not?

    If it's discovered that a male engages in gay sex then never ever let them be a teacher, clergy, scout leader etc etc.

    You don't lay out the buffet line for them to feast. You take precautions to protect the children. Might that unjustly "punish" those homosexual men who are not engaged in sex with little boys? The answer is yes however given the high propensity to homsoexual pedophilia, the protection of the children justifies the action. In fact, common sense demands it.
     
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    How the hell would you know that :eyepopping:
     
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    Google is your friend
     
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    Once again the 3% statistic only represents people who identify as homosexual.

    You can continue to ignore that fact, frankly I hope that you do because fleeing from facts is a sign if desperate dishonesty.

    But I won't stop posting it.

    Go ahead and ignore it.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Some posters make up their own reality. That avatar always gets him posting fantasies and claiming that they are mine.

    That is the only reason I haven't changed it.
     
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    he told us a while back
     
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    I couldn't get upset if the security gaurd stood up and took notice of my ginger self walking into the bank if gingers were disproportionatly more likely to rob the bank....
     
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    There is a difference in someone taking "notice" and someone having rights taken away. You and sec don't seem to mind rights being taken away even though you can't prove what you are trying to say. Correlation does not mean causation.

    Show us the proof that they were pedophiles BECAUSE they were homosexuals.
     
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    It's not about protecting children or fixing a problem, or even acknowledging something exists.

    It's about the ends justifying the means.

    Their goal is so important that it justifies lying and slander, and out and out denial of truth. This is the folly of man, people that believe their ends justify their means are anti-social, or sociopathic. The term evil has been applied to them.

    Think about what they are doing to youth and children that are gay. They don't give a rat's ass. In fact they hope to give these people complexes. If homosexuals feel they are wrong and thus become mentally ill due to this torment, it plays right into their wheelhouse.

    All I can say is thanks to those people that have decided to see through the lies. That abandon that train of thought. They are making a difference.
     
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    they are homosexual pedophiles

    word games don't get the job done. How about protecting the children from a group with such a high propensity toward homosexual pedophilia?

    That would be a good first step toward protecting the children; don't you agree?
     
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    As soon as you can prove they were pedophiles BECAUSE they were homosexuals. You haven't proved the causation of your correlation. I know proof is such a hard thing for gay-haters such as yourself.

    The holes in your argument have already been pointed out and until you can provide such proof, your comments will be dismissed as simple anti-gay propaganda.

    You just want to deny rights to people based on numbers you can't prove causation too.
     
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    let's review the facts shall we

    homosexuals equal approx 3% of the adult population

    homosexual pedophilia accounts for 1/3 of all pedophilia cases

    treatments centers to help people oevercome their addiction to the gay lifestyle are available

    so let's review the positions taken by homosexuals

    deny the Gallup poll

    deny that male/male sex is homosexual-sex

    demand that treatment centers which can help homosexuals be closed because some homosexuals are offended by their existence

    it's a common theme and quite disturbing to say the least

    people are there who want to help homosexuals overcome their lifestyle decision. We also must consider the safety of the children above the feelings of homosexuals

    If we as a society can cure homosexuals then we eliminate 1/3 of the cases of pedophilia

    we then can find a way to identify heterosexual pedophiles
     
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    ahh, then the heterosexual pedophiles must be pedophiles because they are heterosexual?

    That tactic might work if 100% of heteros or 100% of homosexuals were pedophiles but they are not.

    It's a tired rebuttal you try and fails miserably

    Given the propensity of gay pedophilia when you consider the small population of homosexuals, it is much easier to address that population given that they account for 1/3 of the cases. The goal is to reduce/eliminate all cases of child molestation however when 3% of the population accounts for 1/3 of the cases, that is an easier group to begin the project. It's as close to fishing in a barrel as one can get.
     
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    Yes, let's look at the facts, correlation does not mean causation.

    Not proven, not time tested and results suck. There is a reason why they are not state licensed, because they are no different than voodoo and snake charming.


    Not denying the numbers gathered, I'm saying you have not demonstrated the numbers are BECAUSE they are homosexual. You still haven't proven that.

    An act is not the same as orientation or the reason they did it.

    I'm not demanding they be closed. I'm saying they are of the same "caliber" as snake charming and voodoo. The only thing I'm against is using such child abuse against children, but as long as they aren't state licensed, that's up to the parents.

    The common theme is disturbing but the common theme is the dishonesty of the anti-gay folks. God doesn't like dishonest such as your displaying. You might end up going to hell if you don't repent for your dishonesty.

    Since you have not proven that they are pedophiles BECAUSE they are homosexual, the only thing you are doing is wanting to take rights away from innocent homosexuals that haven't done anything wrong and your only justification is because some other pedophiles did something wrong that self-identified as homosexual.

    Nope, you haven't proven that they were pedophiles BECAUSE they were homosexual. Your dishonesty is going to get you sent to hell from your god.

    Nope, you have not proven such a causation and that is why your entire argument is refuted. If pedophiles drank Coke over Pepsi, banning Coke doesn't mean you get rid of pedophiles. That is just as silly as your correlation which is debunked.

    You've shown your comments to be so dishonest, I would start repenting if I were you. God doesn't like liars as you are demonstrating through your comments.
     
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    How do you know?

     
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    instead of arguing the gallup poll numbers as a way to dismiss the problem entirely, is a way to distract away from the numbers being so ugly


    it's not important whether it's 3% account for 33% of the gay crimes, or if it's 5% (because 2% haven't identified as gay yet) account for 33%....


    meanwhile, none of the gays that like watching porn with actors that look like teenagers playing schoolboys seem to want to even admit gay pedophilia is a crime.
     
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    The 1st step to protecting children is to not send them to church without parental supervision. Especially boys.
    Perhaps, stopping the practice of church going would be the ultimate safest solution.
     
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    And when you can prove that they did molest children BECAUSE they were homosexual, we'll be glad to see your proof. Until then you seem quite content on trying to link pedophiles and homosexuals as the same even though you cannot prove that link. Your correlation does not mean causation. If pedophiles drank Coke over Pepsi would you automatically ban Coke on numbers alone without first proving the causation?

    Hopefully as a teacher, you aren't teaching your students to just blindly accept any correlated numbers as the causation.

    Your anti-gay agenda is coming through. I noticed you only talking about homosexuals that watching porn like that when heterosexuals ALSO watch the same kind of porn with opposite sex actors. Where is your outrage on that? Oh, is that your agenda coming through again?
     
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    if you had facts that show that churches account for 1/3 of all crimes against little boys then I would support that.

    I'm glad that you had an attempt at lashing out toward churches as it highlights that if a very small segment accounts for 1/3 of all crimes, it must be addressed.

    That is not the case of churches however is the case for homosexuals

    So, let's get focused on the real problem. How do you suggest that the problem of homosexual pedophilia be addressed?
     
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    Since many of those molesters are priests, perhaps banning religion would be in order. I'm sure sec would agree to that? Oh wait, he doesn't.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ban religion, all of it. That's the easiest way to protect a child.
     
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    I will correct those that you have incorrect.

    My corrections will be listed in blue bold text in all caps inside brackets.

    Mistake one corrected.

    Meh I'm not interested in contesting this.

    Prove it.

    No, I only deny your misrepresentation of it.

    I deny that the actin is homosexual. I recognize the people involved may or may not identify as homosexual.

    Your interpretation of sex isn't a fact.

    Prove they can help. State how and why, provide science such as clinical testing peer reviewed thesis. Otherwise your claim that they can help is an unsupported claim and thus a logical fallacy.

    Sorry the burden of proof is on you. You claimed they can help. You need to prove your claim.

    Correcting lies? Perhaps if you wish to convince people with lies.

    So?

    I have, it's negligible. Your gross over estimation of it not withstanding.

    Focusing on imagined problems eliminates nothing.

    Well based on your method we should just cure heterosexuality. Since it is your contention that sexual orientation is the problem in one case. It clearly is in the other.
     
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    you are trying to dance around facts and figures which reflect propensity within the homosexual population.

    All people arrested for DUI were driving cars. That does not mean that all drivers are drunk drivers. But, it means that if you are looking for DUI arrests, then stop automobiles, not people sitting at home on the sofa.

    It's the very same thing for homosexuals and pedophilia. Not all homosexuals are pedophiles however if you want to cut 1/3 of the cases, then it's much easier to begin with 3% of the population than 97%. When you review the ratio, it clearly shows that pound for pound, pedophilia is much more rampant among homosexuals than heterosexuals
     
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    The figures don't prove causation. Are you having trouble understanding the English word causation?

    And you have not shown that the REASON they molested children was because they were homosexual.

    Again, not the same thing, you haven't proven CAUSATION. Again, until you can do that, you've got nothing. You're the one dancing.

    BTW, why are you only concerned with 33% of the cases, why aren't you concerned and doing something ACTIVE about the other 67% of cases? Oh yeah, because you are on an anti-gay rant right now.

    Your colors have been shown, your numbers shown that you don't have causation, you don't have PROOF the reason they molested the kids was because they were homosexual. You are no different than the God Hates (*)(*)(*)(*) group. You're dismissed.
     
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