Same sex couples will produce biological children together

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  1. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eine gute shape eh? Your swastika is showing.



     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Not using these methods.

    There is no splicing going on here. The children are conceived through completely natural processes. It is no different from any other child conceived naturally.

    The only difference is that this process allows for the creation of sperm or egg from either sex. But it's still only two components. The sperm and egg would combine exactly the same as they would from hetero parents.

    The process used in Europe is a different thing alltogether. Mitochondrial DNA has no impact on the looks or behavior of people, so it would not matter where it originated from. Strictly speaking, Mitochondrial DNA is not even human DNA. It's it's own thing.
     
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    Great, thanks for nothing.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    If such a war is really being waged, you've already lost it. "They" control the media and the schools and the government, and you have already said you believe people are weak willed.
     
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    You're welcome.

    Care to provide a logical reason why there is something wrong with same sex couples having biological offspring?
     
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    Goverment>? The Supreme court is conservative, the Congress is conservative and god willing the President will be conservative, so not all is lost. Public schools could be defunded in favor of private schools, media can be controlled and with those you change the message. Gays might have won some battles but the war is not over.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    What are your criteria for them to qualify as human beings?

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    You cannot rape the willing.
     
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    Willing depends if the people are drugged and manipulated, which is what the Gay agenda is doing using public schools and media.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    According to who? The Supreme Court has had the ability to outlaw gay marriage for a long time now. Why have they not done so?

    Supreme Court Refuses To Stop Gay Marriages In Alabama
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/09/alabama-gay-marriage_n_6644542.html

    What exactly makes you think they will side with you on this issue?

    What leads you to believe Congress is conservative? You have already said that many Republicans are not "real" Republicans, right? If that is true, the people who agree with you are definitely a minority in congress.

    If you really believe people are weak willed, then yes, your war is lost.

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    How did you determine that "society" is drugged or manipulated? What makes your opinion more valid that the opinions of the People themselves?
     
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    Supreme court has leaned right since Alito and Roberts joined, the swing vote is the problem with gay marriage. But once the new president comes in and if god willing he is a republican he can put a few more conservative judges and overturn gay marriage.





    No Majority of republicans support my point of view, and those who dont will be pressured.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    So how do you explain Alabama? Wouldn't a conservative supreme court have sided with them?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/09/alabama-gay-marriage_n_6644542.html

    Is this an action you would expect a conservative supreme court to take?

    How do you know a Republican President will oppose gay marriage? You do know many Republicans support gay marriage, right?

    So you believe Republicans are populist robots who will bow to pressure?
     
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    Like I said supreme court is only leaning right, the swing vote is key.

    I am 100% sure any republican president will be anti gay marriage.
     
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    It "may" be possible.
     
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    Because an implicit component of the definition of "human being" has always been that it's a product of male/female sexual reproduction, with the resulting genetic contributions from one male parent and one female parent.

    What the hell difference does it make?
     
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    Then we will have to worry about the religious right disease which is far more scary than anything Gays have come up with.
     
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    Seriously, if they aren't human, what are they? The fact that your view is such an extremist minority view is proof that there is no such "implicit component of the definition". It is all in your head.
     
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    Why is that implicit in the definition of human being? What definition of human being are you talking about? It's not. You are making that up.

    Because even if the result is not a human being, there is no reason to assume it's a bad thing. I asked for a logical reason why it's a bad thing. You must explain why a non human offspring would be bad to justify your position, even if I dont accept that it'd be a non human.
     
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    Because other than Jesus Christ, there has never been a human being that did not meet that criterion. You're welcome.

    You are welcome to cite any exceptions.

    On the contrary, if the creature is not human, the "parents" will presumably insist on its "humanity" being acknowledged by the rest of us all the same.

    Of course it may be that you see no problem with that either, but there is a limit to my ability to intellectually condescend, sorry for any inconvenience.
     
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    They wouldn't let us vote for the gay marriages around here as the judges voted for us.
    The majority is not backing this foolishness.
     
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    You are going to have to cite some definition of human being that includes your parameters or just acknowledge that you made it up.
     
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    The local majorities didn't back integration.

    Local majorities do not get to decide right an wrong because they are often ignorant.
     
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    Evidently the distinction between "implicit" and "explicit" somehow escapes you.

    Your problem is obvious: you don't like what I said, but can't find fault with it, >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<
     
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    The same technology could be used to create children for straight couples. Conservatives will be the only ones able to afford it, so America will be safe.
     
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    It is not implicit though. That is just an opinion you have. You
    haven't backed it up with anything real.
     
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    Then surely providing a counterexample will be the most trivial of exercises, so what the hell are you waiting for?
     

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