Christian Survival In Syria Depends On Assad

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The demise of the indigenous Christianity Cyprus and Kosovo, was under the watch of Western powers. The demise of Iraqi Christianity took place under the watch of American and the United Kingdom. In the post Gaddafi era, Christians now face having their throats cut by ISIS. The destruction of Christians is a reality in Biafra, East Timor and now in W. Papua. Christians it seems are expendable because of Turkey and the ambitions of the feudal Gulf monarchs.

    In Syria, the NATO backed Gulf states want to destroy all the traditional faiths in the nation such as; Alawites, Christians, Shia and indigenous Sunni Islam. It was Assad who helped the Christians of Iraq, and it was Assad who took in the Sunni Muslim Palestinians and it is Assad who is supported by all confessions in Syria. He is their protection and survival from Takfiri terrorists...and yet, Washington demands Assad to step down which would be a death warrant of all the indigenous people.. It is a known fact that the armed forced of Syria are multi confessional, and that this unity of all faiths needs to be protected from the Takfiri terrorists


    In the type of crime that Obama had said was sufficient reason for the people of Syria to rise up and overthrow their government, the 'moderates' who we supported and armed, has allegedly slaughtered the entire population of al Duvair. But this was not an isolated incident...nor are the destruction of ancient sites, such as the sanctuary of St. Elijah Orthodox Monastery which is revered by both Christians and Muslims.



    Indeed, irrespective if it is ISIS, FSA or Nusra terrorist forces in northern Syria – or Nusra and other terrorist forces in southern Syria – it is clear that Turkey in the north and Israel in the south are openly taking in injured terrorists. These patched up terrorists are then sent back to frontline positions in order to kill Syrians and cleanse religious minorities..."


    Al Monitor reports: “Media reports based on eyewitness and opposition sources saying that Turkey has become a party to the civil war in Syria have found their way into court proceedings. During the trial of the Islamic State (IS) militants who attacked Turkish security forces at Nigde last year, court files revealed that Turkey, beyond supplying opposition forces with weapons and ammunition, had also given artillery support to the opposition groups that captured Kassab.

    The prosecutor obtained striking admissions by tapping the defendants’ phones. According to documents obtained by Ahmet Sik of Cumhuriyet, the wiretapping transcripts reveal that the opposition forces at Kassab inform people in Turkey of the coordinates of Syrian army positions around Kassab, and then Turkey shells those locations.”


    Irrespective of where Christians and other minorities are cleansed in Syria, it is clear that Gulf powers and Turkey are behind this reality along with the usual Western nations of America, France and the United Kingdom. Israel and Jordan are also not innocent bystanders because terrorist forces have been trained in Jordan. Also, it is clear that various sectarian forces believe that the closeness to Israel, Jordan, and Turkey respectively, is extremely beneficial. Indeed, irrespective if it is ISIS, FSA or Nusra terrorist forces in northern Syria – or Nusra and other terrorist forces in southern Syria – it is clear that Turkey in the north and Israel in the south are openly taking in injured terrorists. These patched up terrorists are then sent back to frontline positions in order to kill Syrians and cleanse religious minorities.

    http://82.221.128.226/~modernto/themoderntokyotimes/?p=2437
     
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    I imagine Assad is having plenty of problems simply assuring his own safety right now.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia hasn't done anything to help persecuted Christians in Iraq or Syria.
     
  4. Moi621

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    The Assads are Baathists.

    They believe in Syrian Nationalism and Arab Nationalism.
    NOT Shia / Sunni or this tribe, that tribe. Or even Christian.

    As long as one did not oppose the government,
    Life Under a Baathist regime was secure for Arab Family life.

    Can anyone indicate one nation, even a smaller one
    where American motivated Baathist removal left people with more security?
    Egypt?
    Libya?
    Iraq?
    Baathist gave all their citizens peace and security.
    To do this they were suppressing the Muslim Brotherhood. The Islamist of that day.
    Baathist also suppress any contrary political opinions because, that's the way authoritarians are.
    Consider they knew how stable their nations would be with a "democracy" like Egypt or Iraq today.

    What part don't I have correct?​



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christians are not persecuted in the governments Russia supports, only in the ones we support. That should say something.:oldman:
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have everything correct. Washington has had its NGOs in Syria since 2005 for regime change. Assad is an Alawite, and they are the most tolerant Muslims there are, so what kind of a regime change do they want, the Muslim Brotherhood? I don't doubt it.:roll:
     
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    anyone one else think its kinda funny assad's birthday is september 11th?
     
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    It's not his safety he's concerned about, because he could always leave for Iran. It's the safety of the people in Damascus. They will be massacred if the rebels take over...and it doesn't matter if it's ISIS or the so called 'moderate' al Queda ones. They won't take over though, because Washington will attack them if they gain the upper hand, and then attack Assad it he starts winning...as they have. Washington just want to keep the war going on forever. It's a means of population control. Too many people in the world. .
     
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    OP thinks there is still a Syria to begin with. Lolz.
     
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    Indeed. Because last time I checked (and I don't really keep up on this subject) the Christians sided with Assad from the start. And they are f*cked if it ends up that they placed all their bets on the wrong horse / the rebels win.


    So it has nothing to do with religious persecution.
    It's because they are siding with an oppressive murdering dictator.
     
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    I know a number of Syrians-Christians, Jews, Sunnis all had no problem w Assad ar all and cannot understand why the US wants to depose Assad. Another power vacuum just like what happened in Egypt.
    Sad sad tell me please the pluses of us interference in Syria!
     
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    America and American Christians are very concerned with preservation of Israel. They do not care much, if Christians in other countries are killed.
     
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    obama wants a syrian war for oil.
     
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    Obama and crew are just ignorant of history and the RealPolitik of the area.

    Or

    Caulk it up to criminal alternate motives or, honest - God given stupidity.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Obama has lied trying to get into war with Syria.
     
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    Washington does not go by the same principals it did decades ago, and many people haven't realized it yet, especially in the US. I didn't either until I saw who Washington was backing in Syria against the most tolerant leader in the ME. Until then, I thought my government was being deceived by others, but then I began to realize it was the other way around. A holy elder in my Church said that Washington was now under satan, and it seems he's right because they are total sociopaths without any sense of right and wrong. They lie blatantly and continuously ....almost as if it's the thing to do, and without the least bit of shame. To them 'chaos' seems to be the end in itself.
     
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    The Christians are siding with the person who will not kill them...as are all the Syrians.
     
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    There is at least one in the US that is willing to speak the truth. Unfortunately folks like him are few in Congress and the White House.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/virgin...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

    As is stated by the good Senator from Virginia, what on earth is the US doing funding Al Qaeda.

    The Rebel movement was extremist right from the get go. Even before armed insurgency Christians were being told by the extremists to either join the protests or leave the country.

    The Saudi's, US, and others were funding the insurgency knowing full well it was dominated and controlled by extremists including Al Qaeda, Al Nusra and a host of other extremist groups.
     
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    The brilliant writer Pepe Escobar coined it right when he called us the Empire of Chaos, because chaos seems to be the end in itself. When Assad starts getting the upper hand in Syria, then Israel will bomb them to even out the playing field. I heard it said they want them to keep on killing one another. Well then what are we doing, is it some kind of population control?

    We support the terrorists in Syria, and deceive the public by calling Assad a terrorist and dictator, even though he was voted in by the Syrians, and the terrorists are all foreigners. In Ukraine we support the criminal oligarchs and the Nazis, when they're committing the most horrendous crimes on the population of Donbas, and call the people who do not want to be under their control 'terrorists'.

    All this of course is a reflection of the people who control Washington...and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm talking about George Soros and the neo cons like Kagan, and his wife Victoria Nuland, etc.
     
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    Indeed. But siding with a ruthless torturing / murdering dictator.... comes with high risks when they are BUSY with ousting him.
     
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    Classic Orwellian doublespeak for sure. I am not sure what Soros has to do with this but for sure the Pentagon, CIA and other agencies seem to have an agenda regardless of who is sitting in the Whitehouse.
     
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    Today the Christian population of Turkey is estimated at more than 160,000 Christians, these include; 80,000 Armenian Apostolic,[6][7] 35,000 Roman Catholics of varying ethnicities,[8] 21,000 ethnic Assyrians, (mostly followers of the Assyrian Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church and Chaldean Catholic Church),[9] up to 22,000 Greeks (3,000-4,000 Greek Orthodox,[6] 10,000-18,000 Antiochian Greeks[10][10][11]) and smaller numbers of Bulgarians, Georgians, and Protestants of various ethnicities.

    According to Bekir Bozdag, Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey, there were 349 active churches in Turkey (October 2012). 140 Greek, 58 Assyrian and 52 Armenian

    There is small ethnic Turkish Protestant Christian community in Turkey which number about 4,000-5,000[1] adherents most of them came from Muslim Turkish background.[


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    Areas in red are under the control of Assad.
     
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    The unrest resulted from a combination of socio-economic and political problems that had been building for years and that affect especially Syria’s large rural population. The drought of 2007-2010, high unemployment rates, inflation, income inequality, and declining oil resources all contributed to profound discontent on the part of the opposition movement.

    Moreover, harsh and arbitrary political repression had also eroded Bashar al-Assad’s long-cultivated facade as a “reformer.”

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    Who are the Alawites?

    Today Alawites comprise 12-15% of the Syria’s population, or about 2 million people. They mainly live in the mountainous areas of Latakia on the northwestern coast, where they constitute almost two-thirds of the population.

    The Alawites are composed of several main tribes with numerous sub-tribes.

    Syria’s Alawites are also divided among two distinct groups: more conservative members of the community, who mainly live in rural regions as peasant farmers and value the traditional aspects and rituals of the belief, and the middle-class, educated, urban Alawites who have been assimilated into Twelver Shi'ism aided by Iranian and Lebanese propaganda. [Twelver Shi'ism is the principal and largest branch of Shi’ite Islam.]

    http://origins.osu.edu/article/alawites-and-fate-syria
     

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