The gay attack on religion is dangerous

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the guy who targets a Gay guy or a Jewish guy for no specific reason, is not charged with a hate crime.
     
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    So you feel that hetrosexual is not a sexual orientation.
     
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    So if someone kills a guy and expresses no hate verbally, how is the guy less dead than had the killer called him a name? Dead is dead irrespective of the killers prejudices. Attacking someone for no specific reason or a particular reason is irrelevant to the normal mind. Hate laws are PC placation for certain groups.
     
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    Thank you! You are making my point! Hate crime laws are applicable to everyone therefor it is redundant to have such a law. My guess is that when you attack someone, there is an element of hate driving you to attack. So why the law?
     
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    hate crime laws are important, but because the motivation for a crime is important
     
  7. Daniel Light

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    Why thank me? I was pointing out how misinformed you post sounds. Hetrosexual IS a sexual orientation. Your post just sounds like a problem with a persecution complex.
     
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    LOL


    Anti-gay bigots are mad that society is leaving their nonsense behind.
     
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    No need to play straw man. No one is persecuting me. It is the lefties that feel certain groups deserve special protection as they are allegedly persecuted. Why do you feel that way?

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    So there are different levels of dead? Do tell.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its very dishonest to put words in my mouth.
     
  11. Daniel Light

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    I don't. Hetrosexual would fall under the same protections in the event of a hate crime.

    The reason laws were passed regarding hate crimes was more about being able to level longer sentences BECAUSE those perpetrating a hate crime are more likely to be repeat offenders.

    The idea is to get them off the streets and keep them off the streets. In the past, minorities were more likely to be a victim of a hate crime. As minority demographics change, that could change as well.
     
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    That could be true. Then again, it is absolutely true beyond any doubt about the Christians. As in:

    The Christian activists are single minded ideologues willing (maybe even intending) to destroy the fabric of a civil society in order to impose their agenda on the nation.
     
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    Then that means a hate law covers everyone which renders it meaningless as we already have laws for crimes against people.

    Hate laws came about because certain groups wanted them. Please. And many criminals are repeat offenders and have never been convicted of hate crimes.

    LOL! Blacks kill blacks at a far higher rate than whites kill blacks. Try again.
     
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    Homosexuality is a perversion of human biology, period. Homosexual marriage is an abomination to my God/religion. I am under no obligation to recognize either. I'm not a horse you can force to the water traugh.

    Do I hate homosexuals? No. Am I advocating homosexuality be outlawed? No. Do I know and do business with homosexuals? Yes. I even like them as people. But, I do not condone their perversion.

    If I were a cake maker and they wanted a cake for any other reason than for an abomination, I would gladly make them one. This is not rocket science. This is not hate. It is not preventing them from getting married. Stop with ridiculous hyperbole.
     
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    and yet it exists within human biology, for as long as we can remember.
     
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    Straw man. 98% of the people aren't Christian. The real issue here is why do right wing Christians (i.e., a small minority relative to the overall Christian population) feel threatened by people who are not them?
     
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    To which religion do you belong, that even acknowledges the existence of such a thing?
     
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    Do you ask all your customers if they are currently violating any of God's laws before you supply services? If not, then yes, a case could be made that you are practicing a form of bigotry.
     
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    So you don't hate gay people, you just think that they're inferior and an affront to God. Alright, fit a second there I thought you were trying to say something hateful.
     
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    The fact that gays were the victims of abuses of the law does not mean that gays do not abuse the law themselves. Read the news, times have changed.
     
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    You make a personal argument based on assumptions about me. That type of argument is a complete FAIL here. I have intentionally posted nothing about my personal details, you can infer a few items (such as I am a conservative) but little else. All you are doing is revealing your ignorance and personal bias.

    If your argument cannot stand on its own merit independent of your personal (anonymous) qualifications then it is worthless.
     
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    The gay "interest group" is certainly powerful and can be considered a majority and they are advancing their agenda. They are also operating like religious zealots who believe they have The Truth and all who disagree must be destroyed. They are not engaging the opponents in an attempt to change their mind, they do not address legitimate questions, they are not tolerant of differing opinions, they simply use their new found power to impose themselves on everyone.

    The "interest group" seems directed by a small group of gay activists who direct a larger group composed mainly of secular or overtly ant-religious people. The fundamental gay argument is that religion (really Christianity) is not important, the exercise of religion is not a right, and religion should be removed from the public and social square. That only works with people who reject religion, or are not concerned with equal rights or minority rights.

    Not coercion, its blackmail. Its "you support us in our destruction of the pizza parlor or else we will turn our crosshairs on your business and family".
     
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    Where is the proof? With every action the gays have made over the past few years they have demonstrated their intentions, in their mind the gay agenda trumps all others. Where is the nationwide effort to impose sweeping Christian rule on the nation?
     
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    You could say the same about pediphiles....
     
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    it is really none of your business who is gay and what gays do. judgement is held to God and no one else. there is also something in the bible about loving your neighbor. there is also that thing about he who is without sin and throwing the first rock. the real question is why do some Christians need to ignore jesus teaching and hate their fellow man.

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