All Christians are against gay rights and gay marriage

And they are tired of the gay agenda being shoved in their faces 24/7. I'm not even religious, but I sympathize with them. I cannot take any social movement seriously when the media is promoting them every which way, and manifesting their pro stance into something that's discriminatory towards those who are critical of it. We are being shamed into supporting their cause.

 

Congratulations on voting yourself spokesperson for All Christians.

 

Come on, have you ever heard of a Christian who supported gay rights/marriage? No. All this gay movement is, is about destroying religious freedom.

 

Yes, several of my friends who are Christians are not against gay rights and gay marriage. So speak for yourself chump.

 

I am considered a christian even though I no longer practice in any kind of congregation. But I am for gay rights and marriage.....Oh yeah, and again I have tattoos.

But yes at times the gay movement can get pretty obnoxious and harshly in your face.

 

Millions of Christians support gay marriage.
Unitarian Christians will happily marry gay couples, as will other denominations.

Most Christians support gay rights excluding marriage.

So I'm going to call BS on your OP.

 

Well, at least you admit to that.

 

I'm not really sure what the argument for pro-gay marriage Christianity is supposed to be. Did Jesus' new covenant remove everything from the old testament, including things that Jesus referred to?

 

That's not its purpose, rather just an unintended consequence. The "gay movement" as you call it, is about forcing society into normalizing same sex activity and making it on par with opposite sex pair bonding. But that in its self is an unintended consequence of religious persecution of those who depart from the norm when it comes to sexual behavior.

 

It's hard to judge the "gay" issue on its own based on the merits when one realizes that it's just another tentacle of the left-wing agenda to destroy Western civilization from within.

 

you're combining terms here, and that's dishonest. I don't support gay marriage, but I do support gay rights. no, rather, I support universal rights, under which, gays fall under, just like I do


if a gay gets fired from a job for nothing more than being gay..... I will join the protest
if a gay gets evicted from his home, or is denied housing because he's gay..... I will join the protest
if a gay man is told he can't marry under the equal qualifiers I am allowed to marry (consenting adults, no more than 1, not closely related, opposite gender), then I will join the protest



However, if a gay guy gets fired for being a bad employee, I don't automatically assume he was fired for being gay
if a gay is evicted, I don't just assume it was because he was gay, I am allowed to ask "was he behind on his rent or did he destroy the property" without being considered homophobic or bigotted.

I can be against SSM for the exact same reasons I'm against incest marriage, or polygomy, and not HATE any of the 3. That is a concept gay agendists can not seem to grasp.

 

Or one could say that it's difficult to look at the gay issue on it's own merits when one realizes that opposition to legalizing it is just the first step in the far right-wing agenda to bring a Taliban style theocracy to rule the US.

Hey, this is a fun game you've started.

 

gays CAN get married. They are being denied NOTHING. It's EXACTLY equal to heterosexuals who choose to marry

hetersexuals marry under the following qualifiers.

1. no more than one partner
2. no close relatives
3. opposite gender

homosexuals marry under the following qualifiers.
1. no more than one partner
2. no close relatives
3. opposite gender

what's being denied? Marrying for LOVE? There's no constitutional garantee that anyone can marry for love. If I fell in love with my sister..... I can't marry her. If I fall in love with my girlfriend AND her sister, I can't marry both.

 

Not really. Gay marriage was opposed up until very recently and we've never had a "Taliban style theocracy" here.

Though the Taliban would set up society based on Sharia, and with the amount of Muslims the left wants to bring to the West, I don't think they would care too much.

 

Well, if same sex marriage is legalized then you can marry anyone of the same sex and of legal age and family relations you want to just
like gay people. Equality maintained.

Or do you feel it's silly to suggest that you can marry someone of the same gender if you are not attracted to that gender ... gee, now you know how asinine your argument sounds.

 

Isn't it incredible, that you can paint with such a broad brush, yet manage to miss the canvas altogether??

 

Of course a person who is has a secret agenda of setting up a Taliban style religious theocracy would protest that they were not trying to set up a theocracy. That's what a secret agenda is all about. Opponents of Same sex marriage aren't going to come out and say the have a secret agenda - they're going to hide behind something like "religious freedom".

Hey this whole "agenda" thing is fun.

 

Persecution complex?

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That is because rational and intelligent people are diligent in their efforts to prevent it.

 

And many of those rational and intelligent people still don't want gay marriage to exist.

 

Nope, never met an intelligent person that thought the private lives of others was their business. Bible thumping nosy body control freaks are not people that I consider intelligent..or rational.

 

Would those people be the ones who have a secret agenda to create a theocracy to replace or government? Sounds like it to me.

Cause we all know that the gay marriage issue couldn't just be about gay people wanting to get married. There has to be some vast secret "agenda" attached to their motives ... so we must assume that those in opposition to gay marriage must also have some vast secret agenda as well. Don't we?

No chance that gay might just want the security of being married without any other agenda cause that would be too simple.
Good god, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

my objections are for specific economic reasons.... not because of my religion.


As a Christian.... gay doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect my eternal soul if you choose to put your penis into another man.
as a fiscal conservative...... it does affect me on an economic level you may or may not agree with or think is all that big of a deal. Just because you can justify and dismiss it does not mean I, or anyone else has to.


but back to being a Christian part.....


while you being gay doesn't affect my soul.... I do have a responsibility to my children to raise them up with Christian values, which includes the belief that gay is a sin. Whenever a school says to my child "gay is ok", I can, and will object. Because then, it does affect me.

 

I believe in equal rights, not special rights, for every one including homosexuals. I have no problem with legal unions, but marriages for homosexuals should not be allowed.

 

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You think your slick, eh? What's this "opposite gender" qualification you add? What you are saying is that you still oppose any marriage between opposite sexes....in other words; Gay Marriage.

 

I'm curious as to your economic reasons.

As to the Christian ones - my wife of 24 years is Christian and she doesn't have any objections to gay marriage - she feels that God is responsible for making any judgements as to it being a sin or not when the time comes for such judgements.

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Aren't you advocating "special rights" for hetrosexuals?