Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

As always Dennis, show me the evidence and I'll believe. Conspiracy sites, personal anecdotes and claims of abductions and implants will simply remain claims until clear, unambiguous and tangible evidence is produced. So far none has been.

 

It isn't my job to prove anything to anybody........ my responsibility is to make people think........ if a qualified physician writes an article that purports that Dr. Morton Walker was a quack............… it is the responsibility of the reader to consider the fact that Dr. Walker was promoting a possible longevity remedy that can be done for a cost of about one dollar per person per year....... whereas the doctor saying he is a quack........ is supporting remedies that cost millions, billions and even trillions of dollars....... it is important to be a bit skeptical as to who........ is really attempting to prove what........ and why?

Stephen Greer Ph. D. postulated that one major reason as to why some brilliant people write excellent articles making fun of any and all sightings....... is partly because an American population that believes in ufo's...… would be unwilling to regard an internal combustion engine as the most green and efficient form of getting people from point A to point B!

http://thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139
My wife is from Quito, Ecuador so I heard a lot of amazing things about this area of the world. The first time that I heard about amazing longevity was actually a documentary done back in the 1970's. This explanation may help you to know how Jewish baby boomers can live extremely healthy lives of well over one century.

.vilcabamba.org/article.html

 

I have an IQ test for you snakestretcher...… here is a conspiracy website........ on a scale of one to ten......… one being extremely inaccurate.......... ten being highly accurate........ how accurate is Melvin Sickler regarding his assertion that President Lincoln saved American taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments?

http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

Do you see what I mean snakestretcher.......... often....... exceptionally intelligent and qualified people...… .who assert that they are trying to help you to not be duped by quacks or greedy scientists....... are earning hundreds of thousands of dollars per year....... to write brilliant articles......… asserting that UFO's are fake..... that surgery, chemotherapy and radiation are up to date cures for cancer........ and that our central banking system is almost impossible to improve on!

 

So, beings can't be composed of pure light, that's good to know thanks!

You're so smart.

 

I suppose I thought it would make a big splash. I do thank you

 

I don't deal with words like "imagine". I deal in hard fact, tangible evidence and pragmatism. 'What if' is for writers of fiction.

 

All you need is to either use Pulsar Cordinates.....or to locate an object or Celestial Body in any massive Cubic Parsecs of Space is to have 6 known points of reference and a seventh point of origin to plot a course from.

Take a piece of paper and draw a cube in a 3-D manner.

Now as long as you know 6 points of position thus we use STARS.....so draw 6 points or dots covering all four basic angles of the two dimensional representation of the front of the cube as when you look at stars in the night sky and see some brighter or larger you don't know whether the larger looking star is closer or just BIGGER!!

Anyways...draw 6 Dots in the manner described.

Now....draw straight lines between 3 groups of 2 dots so that all 3 lines cross each other.

Where the lines cross is where your Solar System or Star to the Planet you need to travel to will be.

A seventh point outside the box represents your current location....draw a straight line to this dot to the center point of the crossed 3 lines....thus a COURSE HAS BEEN PLOTTED.

Easier to just use PULSAR MARKERS.

AboveAlpha

 

Very good, except that at the sort of velocity needed to traverse interstellar space-we're talking near light speed-none of that works. At those kinds of speeds both space and time start to become very weird indeed, and you cannot rely on any 'fixed' points because space and time become distorted and those reference points cease to be 'fixed' (which, in any case, they are actually not). Read:https://lofi.physforum.com/Space-Navigation_42650.html
At present we have neither the technology, the ability or, crucially, the money to even begin attempting anything like this.

 

Take a string and let it represent the distance between the single point of origin from the planet you are leaving to the point of destination which is where the 3 lines cross.

That length we will just assign it as 53 Light Years which means it tales Light or Photons traveling at 186,282 miles per second 53 YEARS to travel the distance between the point of origin planet you are leaving to get to the point of destination.

Now....the string represents 53 Light Years and each Light Year is equal to about 6 Trillion Miles.

When you were in Grade school the Teacher would as you...."What is the shortest distance between two points?" and the Teacher wanted the answer to be.....A STRAIGHT LINE.

This is FALSE.

Pickup the string and hold both ends of the string at it's end with two hands.....pull it taunt....that represents 53 Light Years of Distance.......now take the two ends in your hands and move the two ends so they touch each other.

This is FOLDING SPACE TIME IN A REPRESENTATION.

Space-Time has a Topography and it has 10 or 11 Plus Dimensionality....perhaps even 26-D.

We know Gravitational Effect Warps and Folds Space-Time as we are able to see Stars that appear to be on the edge of or sun but in reality the Sun blocks them Geometrically but the Sun's mass is so great it warps the very fabric of Space-Time so we can visually see with a scope with sun filters stars that we should not be able to see as the Light travels around the Gravitational Warping of Space-Time caused by the Sun's Gravity Well.

All that is needed to do this as far as Folding or Warping Space-Time in a Space Craft is a Gravitic Drive as well as developing and understanding the UFT....Unified Field Theory.

Thus the Space Craft does not travel 53 Light Years.....it either FOLDS SPACE-TIME or generates the sufficient energy required to represent mass to Warp Space-Time.

AboveAlpha

 

Wow!!!!! Phenomenal response to this topic snakestretcher!

My apologies for getting kind of miffed at you a few days ago…….. When you asked for "proof"….. I got annoyed………. because I have probably read more about UFO phenomena than 95% to 99% of the population………. over these past four decades. I began back in the 1970's, as a teenager…. reading "Chariots of the gods" by Erik Von Daniken.

I know that I know……. that I do NOT have proof……. but I do have information that I am sure can be considered "evidence."

1. The Erik Von Daniken research…… is valid evidence from the angle of history and archeology. Von Daniken does present a powerful case…. .which I strongly suspect is part of the reason why even Richard Dawkins Ph. D. refuses to rule out the possibility of UFO/aliens developing amazing technology thousands or millions of years ago….. and playing a possible role in human evolution or even in our history?! (Is this "proof"….. no…. of course not….. but it is evidence from a very interesting angle)!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...richard-dawkins-ph-d-aliens-seeded-earth.html

Richard Dawkins Ph. D.: "Aliens Seeded Earth?"
I am a Christian who believe that we Christians need to learn how to give our opponents more credit when they truly deserve it.

What Richard Dawkins Ph. D. states in this video....... is really quite brilliant... and in my opinion perhaps far closer to the truth on what scriptures say about the UFO phenomena than what is taught in many churches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL7CCyuXAS4
Richard Dawkins: Aliens Seeded Earth?

2. In the 1990's I read "The Eighth Tower" by John Keel. Keel is obviously astonishingly well informed when it comes to research into parapsychology and pseudo-science. Keel………. has became astonishingly angry…….. because he is honestly convinced that we humans are not the most technologically advanced species……….. We seem to be surrounded by life forms in a multiverse……… who seem to certainly be capable of assisting us to have a more just and kind planet and culture and economy and society…… but we don't…… so John Keel had became FURIOUS with these superior intellects around us who were not behaving in what he felt was an ethical manner. (Is his case "proof" …. no….. but again it is evidence from almost every aspect of parapsychology…. that has led John Keel to a conclusion)!

3. Near death experiencer Christian Andreason…….. has given eye witness testimony based on what I suspect is what he saw…… from at the minimum seventh, if not eighth or even ninth dimensional space - time……. about UFO's and aliens and the role that they play.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

Is this "proof?"

NO…. of course not….. but again it is evidence from what seems to be a totally different angle…….. and if a similar conclusion is indicated by evidence …. gleaned from a totally different perspective……. surely…….. our being somewhat impressed by this evidence is logical?!

4. AboveAlpha…. claims to have seen written……….. and later on actual evidence of UFO/alien existence and intervention in world events……. and says that he would rather not even have seen what he has seen. He would prefer to not have read the formerly classified information that he read…….. And …… to a degree like author John Keel, AboveAlpha…… seems at least somewhat pissed…….. at these UFO's/ aliens and probable extra-dimensional beings in their neglect to assist humanity to have a more just….. less unjust…….. society, culture, economy and history!!!!!!!?

(Is this proof………. NO….. but it is evidence……. that points in the direction of a similar conclusion……. and you and I snakestretcher have the freedom…… and in one sense….. the responsibility to look at the evidence and apply Ossam's Razor as effectively as we can)! ….. For the record…. the fact that you are participating in this discussion……… is evidence that you……. like me…….. are seriously considering the evidence…… which is a truly ethical way to approach this……. and your comment her…….. is exceptional….. and I gave you some more Rep for that one…. Wow!

 

Do you classify "Chariots of the gods" by Erik Von Daniken as 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%, 90% or 100% FICTION?

What about the statements made by Richard Dawkins Ph. D. in that video interview that I gave in the last post…… about the possible intervention by UFO's aliens in human evolution or even perhaps in our history?

What percentage/ level of fiction……. do you place on the claims by near death experiencer Christina Andreason?

What percentage/ level of fiction….. do you place on the testimony of AboveAlpha?

Does the combination of these different forms of evidence……. tend to decrease your feeling that the UFO/ technologically advanced alien species…… is 100% fiction?

 

It is interesting that near death experiencer Christian Andreason reports that the original intelligence seems to him to be composed ….. of both light (rays……. Super Strings)????? as well as of music/ sound/ singing, (waves…. Super Waves/ Super Energetic Matter)…….. I had thought that perhaps there might be an Ancient of DAys the FAther……. whose thought and behaviour pattern might be mostly like Super Strings/ rays of light……… and an Ancient of DAys the Mother….. whose thought and behaviour pattern might be mostly like wave….. Super Waves….. Super Energetic Matter……… but I am certainly no scientist….. and my conclusions in the blog that I wrote several years ago….. could well be terribly flawed?????

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-could-holy-spirit-holy-ghost-god-mother.html
Could the Holy Spirit - Holy Ghost = God the Mother?
Let's start this off with a quotation from Leonary Nimoy:

Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman's writings have made me wonder if the masculine thought and behavior patterns may have evolved out of Super Strings and perhaps feminine thought and behavior emerged out of Super Waves or as he terms it..... Super Energetic Matter?

 

Erik von Danniken himself admitted that much of his 'evidence' was fabricated. For me 'evidence' represents much more than an opinion or a subjective deduction; for example, 'look, don't these ancient drawings look exactly like alien astronauts?' is emphatically not evidence by any definition of the word, and that is a recurring tactic used in Von Danniken's books-make a claim and then construct your evidence to fit it.
I'm not familiar with Dawkins' video as I haven't watched it yet, but speculation is something we can all do.

As regards Von Danniken the following is important to understand: http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/playboys-1974-von-dniken-interview-part-5-more-fake-evidence
http://skepdic.com/vondanik.html

As I said before I'm a pragmatist and I do not believe what I am told unless it comes from a reliable source with cast-iron evidence (not subjective opinion or conjecture), which can be corroborated. Until that time comes it remains science fiction.

 

Well Dennis, it might be the case that contacts with higher intelligences are too advanced for our limited mind to comprehend. So, maybe, we are fed concepts our brain can comprehend even though they are just substitutes for the real thing.

 

You seem to know a lot about this.

Did you take a joy ride?

 

No JOY in this whatsoever.

AboveAlpha

 

From what I have read about the paranormal….. fifth dimensional space time….. as well as sixth dimensional space time……….. have places that could be compared with a death camp or prison.

Some UFO's come to earth from a very high level…… others have came from a very low level?!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research15.html#a03

 

No Joy, No JOY he says. LOL! Joy ride LOL!

But, why do you have to be so depressive about this? It's as much of a downer as a flag draped coffin.

And, that's not a no on the ride part!

 

Dennis, you're using dimensions in the wrong way again. Dimensions are physical aspects of nature like time, gravity, ect.

They are not higher (or lower) planes of existence.

While there may be some kind of other plane of existence existing in the framework of the multiverse itself, I think that's just speculation at this point.

We may never know.

 

Oh and Dennis, I think the UFOs are coming from people, highly advanced animals, and advanced machines from other planets in our Universe. (Perhaps even energy forms if there's a way to stabilize that existence.) Although, also, maybe there's a way to travel between Universes, so maybe you have a point...

But, otherwise, I think if they have the advanced brain to think up a way to travel between the stars then they probably have all the mental facilities that we have regarding emotion, chemical triggers, what have you. Probably, probably... of course that really depends on what social structure they evolved with and what they are programmed to understand.

 

I'm still looking for the actual E.T. Files release from Russia. No luck so far. Mostly it's just word that it's been released.

Just now I found an article about Russia warning Obama to release the alien data or they would.
Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
(Sorry it's an ads filled site.)

They also had a reference to the Men In Black movie which was actually a Russian documentary not the sci-fi comedy from the USA.

And I just finished viewing the video with English captions.

All I can say is well, this isn't new stuff, but it seems they are operating on some mistaken information. So, we can't rely on any of it for information about the 100% facts.

 

Let's just say IGNORANCE IS BLISS!!

AboveAlpha

 

You're probably right. I don't have a need to know about that and I'm free, free! Of that burden.

I won't bother you with that again.

Oh wait, no, one more thing...

Say, you wouldn't happen to know of the descriptions of the known ETs would you? Any of them have fur and a black and white pattern on their forehead? When they're young? That is, when they're not wrapped up in a bio-suit? I just want to measure how much trouble I got myself into many years ago.

 

I was not fully read into that.

The only reason I can even talk about this is because a Wikilinks release on the Internet that was backed up Former President George Bush Sr.'s statements to a person I will not identify as this question and answer were caught by Media Microphones.

When something like this happens and it was a few White House Reports Mic's that caught this conversation if you want to remain as a White House Corespondant.....there is an UNSPOKEN RULE due to the Highly Powerful and Capable Technology used that can catch even the tiniest whisper.....TO RUN BY ANY RECORDING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR THE EARS OF THE ENEMY OR GENERAL PUBLIC....so such White House Reporters run such a Video or ecording by the Presidents CHIEF OF STAFF.

In this case it created a S#!# STORM SO HUGE that the FBI, DIA, AIR FORCE INTELLIGENCE....etc....got involved.

The Media after....not being threatened....but they were given an explaination just HOW DANGEROUS TO THE LIVES OF EVERYDAY AVERAGE HUMAN FAMILIES such knowledge would have....and the Media agreed such knowledge was knowledge the people were simply NOT READY FOR.....and they agreed to kill the stories as well all of them signed NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS and in return were given CHOICE INTERVEIWS that no other News Outlet could get with the MAN OR WOMAN OF THE HOUR!!!

Thing is.....I AGREE THAT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID TO KEEP SUCH INFORMATION UNDER WRAPS IS ABSOLUTELY JUSTIFIED!!!

And if members knew what I know....and thank GOD you do not....these members would agree as well that this information is just TOO MUCH for the worlds General Population.

AboveAlpha