Why we'll never bake your fake wedding cake PT. II

How could it possibly do that?

I am not saying they are backward because I don't believe them. I'm saying that some of their beliefs are backward because they clearly aren't true. Like fur instance the belief that two men or two women marrying each other will destroy their church. That doesn't even make sense.

 

Are you incapable of posting without creating strawmen?

 

They are not overturning unconstitutional laws, they are overturning the meaning of the word marriage.

 

it certainly isn't subject to religion just go ask a town called Salem or a country called Iran.

 

Asked and answered.

 

You are the one who said morality is subjective.

 

Which in no way translates to killing Jews being ok, lol

 

I know you hate facts but words change. The SCOTUS didn't change marriage, society did. You will soon be bestowed upon SSM being legalized in YOUR state. Enjoy it, you too can marry someone of the same sex, equality!

 

Tell that to the Nazi's.

 

Than it should be easy to answer again. Because I didn't see any logical reason to think that same sex marriage will do any of that.

Perhaps you are just avoiding the answer.

 

What do nazis have to do with this conversation?

 

You are the one that created the strawman. His point was that morality is subjective and he is completely right. Saying he thinks killing Jews is moral is a strawman you created.

Your example of Nazi's IS proof that morality is subjective because they DID think it was moral to kill Jews. Just like the KKK thought killing blacks was moral. Morality is always changing. Bathing suits in today's time would be TOTALLY unacceptable and immoral in the 1950s.

Morality DOES change and is subjective.

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Proof that morality is subjective since the Nazi's thought it was moral to kill Jews. The only ones that stopped them were others that thought it was immoral. Morality is subjective.

 

Not all change is good. I don't know about your society, but in my liberal society of the State of California we voted twice not to change marriage. It is legal in my state because a homosexual judge decided it was.

Maybe someday a pedophile judge will decide that raping children is constitutional and you can celebrate that as well.

Necrophilia anyone? Caligula married his horse so their is legal precedent for bestiality. Not long ago public nudity was against the laws as well. Now look at the number of cities that permit events where nudity is exposed to the public in parades and bike rides...in front of children. I wonder how long before the liberals are fighting for their right to public nudity; how long before that becomes a demand for the right to have sex in public?

Why stop at pandering to homosexuals when we can have a truly enlightened and depraved society?

 

I did a post on it that you completely ignored earlier. I see no reason to do that again. Go back and read the post.

 

Ah yes, the slippery slope ignorant comments. Sounds more like sour grapes from you. Too bad for you.

 

According to their subjective moral opinions, Jews were sub-human.

 

Which post?

 

Ok? So, what does murder have to do with this conversation?

You understand that murder deprives another human being of the right to life right? And that same sex marriage in no way harms or has any effect what so ever on anyone other than the two parties involved?

 

Actually it's legal because the ban was unconstitutional. Every judge that took the case agreed. Only one of which was homosexual.

You understand rape is an actual crime right?

Slippery slope fallacy.

Why try to debate like an adult when you can just throw out ridiculous fallacies with every post?

 

So you too agree that killing Jews is moral?

Killing Jews is never moral which, quite the opposite to your assertion, is proof that morality is not subjective based on the opinion of Nazi's.

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When all you have left is ad hominem attacks then you have conceded the argument.

 

It has to do with redefining marriage and then forcing immoral behavior on people who have religious and moral objections to it.

 

They said it was a slippery slope when people predicted that overturning DOMA would legalize same sex marriage in all 50 states.

 

How does murder have anything to do with that? How is same sex marriage forced on you? Are you forced to divorce your wife and marry a man?

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Well, considering DOMA specifically forbid same sex marriage in any state, obviously overturning it would lead to same sex marriage.

But you again seem to not know the meaning of words you throw around. That isn't a slippery slope.

 

Just pointing out that morality isn't subjective. Try to follow the conversation.

I never said same sex marriage is forced on me. Strawman.

I never said I was forced to divorce my wife and marry a man. Strawman.

The argument by the pro-SSM advocates was that it was a states rights issue and that each state could decide for themselves. Then when even liberal California said no to same sex marriage twice, they took it to the courts each time.

 

Explain how it's immoral, and also how it is forced on people.