Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives

So? That doesn't prove that academics are infallible. The infallibility of academics and scientists is precisely why they have argued amongst each other for as long as they have been around.

Now, there's an unintelligent and uneducated generalization. "Progressive" economic and social policies have always been faith-based, which is why they have failed so spectacularly here and abroad. It's the main reason why I am no longer a "progressive" myself.

I've also got a shocking revelation for you: being a conservative doesn't mean being religious, nor does it mean subscribing to religious beliefs, such as Creationism. I have quite a few conservative friends who are atheists and quite a few Leftist friends who are religious.

And yet "progressive" ideology can be summed up in the thoughts of a French revolutionary who died centuries ago.

Like most "progressives" your mind is slammed shut like a bear trap.

As I pointed out earlier, you don't have a clue what conservatism is, and I bet you don't have a clue who John Dickinson was, either. Sorry, I tried to help.

It's simple deductive reasoning. If conservatives came around to "progressives" all the time we'd all be "progressives". Elementary Logic.

This is why I don't vote for Democrats - they're severely lacking in deductive reasoning and elementary Logic.

 

Honestly, liberalism is quite a fluid concept. In Europe, liberalism is more about championing civil liberties and perhaps taking a progressive stance on some contested social issues (i.e, gay marriage, euthanasia, etc). In the states however, liberalism is socialism disguised in the shadow of so called "social justice". Perhaps European liberalism has good grounds for cognitive proficiency but American liberalism (which from what I have observed, is blindly adhering to Obama and the Democratic party's every whim without considering whether or not the action is truly liberal, i.e, the apparent lack of concern by many progressive Democrats with mass surveillance by the NSA) is more about party loyalty and dislike of the Republicans. American politics might have clean institutions, but it has dirty tactics and both sides seem to go along with it. In that respect, I think intelligence is independent of whether or not you're an American conservative or an American liberal.

 

Just one simple curiosity: where does open borders for a country fit?

 

OK, a couple more....: Almost to a man our founders and framers (ignorant I presume??) believed that large central government and non-separation of powers was THE #1 enemy to liberty and, by definition, tyranny.

Like wanting social security, medicare, medicaid, and yes, even the country to not go bankrupt which the liberals are hell-bent, in actions but maybe not words, on doing.. Or the fact that free private enterprise made this country great and government can not grow an economy, only redistribute it around.

 

Excellent answers on these subjects TAlon!

I get the impression thought that you would tend to not like my idea of churches……. printing up something similar to local currencies?!


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html
Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

www.CalgaryDollars.ca/
is a good example of how several dozen socially active residents of an area can begin what amounts to a second tier to the economy.

The Ithaca Hour is an excellent example of a similar concept being applied in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_Hours
The Ithaca HOUR is a local currency used in Ithaca, New York and is the oldest and largest local currency system in the United States that is still operating.[1] It has inspired other similar systems in Madison, Wisconsin; Corvallis, Oregon;[2] and a proposed system in the Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania.[3] One Ithaca HOUR is valued at US$10 and is generally recommended to be used as payment for one hour's work, although the rate is negotiable.
Most North American churches have a desire to assist the poor and the oppressed. Well….. in 2014 efforts by a group of socially active Christians could easily transform dozens of homeless people into actors….. who are playing the role of homeless people….. and the specific efforts to help them could becomes scenes in a series of documentary and reality films designed to give the homeless people a job that finances their getting an apartment or at least a group home.

Most of us are unaware of the Worgl, Austria local currency experiment that was conducted during the Great Depression and how successfully it was copied in hundreds of communities in the USA. As a matter of fact…… it looks like what these communities accomplished played a significant role in inspiring the USA government to alter the monetary system in many positive ways.

http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

 

Yes……. Canada's P. M. Stephen Harper would be considered "liberal" by many standards. He did a good job of talking the more right wing members of his own political party to not bother trying to prevent Gay marriages.

 

What do you think about the impression that I had gotten that "conservatism" was heavily influenced by the words of the Apostle Paul……

http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/371595-what-foundation-conservative-movement.html
What is the foundation of the Conservative Movement?
2Thessalonians 3:10
"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

But what if there is evidence that all of us in a sense volunteered……… previous to our birth…… to participate in a massive reality film event with great psychological, spiritual, emotional and educational value?

During his brush with death Dannion Brinkley was shown that only the most philosophical advanced and courageous spiritual beings/ angels…. would volunteer to incarnate as a child destined to be mentally or physically handicapped?

Don't starts in reality films get supplied with the basics such as a meal while they are on the set?

……… I got back a brilliant reply in that discussion that fits well over here:

 

Do you think that many of the poor may have came to the conclusion that the G. O. P. has been taken over by big business?

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...ve-movement-been-taken-over-big-business.html

Has the Conservative Movement been taken over by Big Business?


Can the G. O. P. be freed from Big Business?
Voters 12. You have already voted on this poll
No.... we don't have anybody with the courage of Abe Lincoln. 7………..58.33%
Yes... but it will not be easy. 4…………...33.33%
Big Business control is better than that of politicians. 3………….25.00%
Yes... and I know of a political outsider who might just lead the charge. 2…….16.67%

 

In many ways, I would say yes, it has. Just as the social liberal movement would like to take over big business. The nonsense over raising the minimum wage via federal legislation is an attempt to dictate how businesses operate, as is obamacare.

The way I see it, government and business should be as separate as government and religion should be. The government has a specific function, as defined in the constitution, and that's where it should end.

The problem is that governments and business and religion have always been something of an unholy menage e trois. The church supplies the mandatory moraity, the state provides the violence to enforce that morality over the people, and business provides the production capacity in order to ensure the power of all three. Trying to separate them is difficult because they do not really want to be separated.

So really, it's not a question of Rs and Ds, but trying to control a potentially dangerous relationship. If all three truly become united, then even atheists will be praying to God, if only on the off chance that Pascal was correct.

 

Both parties are owned by big business. Who doesn't know that?

 

Poor and uneducated people rarely vote. I know that Republican supporters like to believe that they are the party of the smart and wealthy against the hordes of poor, uneducated, non-white Democrats. But, alas, it is a false sense of reality.

 

How wrong you are. What made this country great was the government's protection of private property, providing a stable environment, and open system of settling disputes (courts), among other things, that allowed private enterprise to thrive.

 

Yea, the red conservative movement definitely looks confined to just the south. *rolleyes*

 

No, they certainly do vote. Neither side is the party of intelligence. They are simply both the party of sheeple. Such as this

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI[/video]

 

Oh look... Another bigoted statement from the left.

What's new right?

I guess the party of hate always shows its true colors.

/*******

 

"Science" remember the GW video about 2015?

 

I almost agree. It needs more precise wording. Free private enterprise made this country great. The government provided the requisite support and protection of liberty and against enemies and a system of justice that allowed private enterprise to do its thing, which is how the framers set it up in the first place.

 

Yes........ I have certainly observed that the people on the extreme left do look down on people who have some conservative views.

Here is one of the quotations from a near death experiencer that can begin to draw the political left and right somewhat closer together.

http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-lesbian-rights/380595-g-ds-agenda-gay-community.html

G-d's Agenda for the Gay Community?!



Assuming the accuracy of the following two paragraphs...… what specifically would G-d/ HaShem/ YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham be planning to do through the Gay Community?

http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

Obviously..... one of the things that our Creator wishes to do through the Gay Community..... is to create a whole new world in which there....."would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again"... is expanded and expanded and expanded to all groups and communities on earth?!

 

Yes........ free enterprise is a generally good thing but it can be taken too far.

From what I have seen in several documentaries I do believe that the company Monsanto.... is taking free enterprise too far. This could make them huge profits for a decade or two or three but.......... technology like terminator seeds will set the world up for eventual widespread famine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_of_Food

 

There is evidence from parapsychology that time branches....... and if the Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow research is actually tapping into something that we eventually find out is that the human brain..... if hypnotized can glimpse other time lines..... then January 1, 2013 in another time line may have had America about 15% to 20 % under water.


http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

 

Thank you for providing this quite interesting map!

One would almost think that once somebody goes quite far left in their thinking..... they tend to move to a city?!

 

I don't know about Monsanto and terminator seeds but yes, government does have to set the rules and laws of the economy that describes the fouls and boundaries of enterprise. These rules of the game need to be few and major. The problem is when government, as it is want to do and is has done in US for 50 plus years and is doing today in spades, tries to dictate more and more of enterprise and other individual activity. That's when liberty goes and private enterprise and economic growth goes.

 

This has to be one of the most ridiculous threads on this site.

The entire fact that this thread was created immediately disproves the point of this thread. How ironic.

 

Vice versa with those people that are on the extreme right, but then whenever there is an extremist element it always looks down on what is a threat to their power which is often the truth. The right nor the left is immune from having extremists.

Interesting read as I am an agnostic.

 

That's very interesting, Dennis. Given the prominent role religion played in society back then, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if early conservatism was greatly influenced and shaped by the teachings in the Old and New Testaments. Furthermore, when you consider that some of the most influential thinkers and speakers of the pre-Revolutionary period were ministers, such as Jonathan Mayhew who challenged the "divine right of Kings" and John Allen who blamed the rapacity of British officials for the events that led to the burning of the HMS Gaspee by the Sons of Liberty in Rhode Island, this influence is even more likely. Naturally, their sermons, which were published in pamphlet form and widely distributed throughout the Colonies, included many verses and references to Christian scripture amidst their more secular political arguments.

As for John Dickinson, his conservatism was grounded in reason, experience and empirical fact. He was not a man who entertained the crazy theories that proto-"progressives" such as François-Noël Babeuf propagated during the French Revolution. It was this preference for heeding the successes and failures of the past, and the prudence associated with this deliberate approach to formulating policy, that still is considered a prominent feature of "conservatism". It's been said that Edmund Burke was the father of conservatism, but Dickinson was one of his contemporaries, so perhaps we could consider the so-called "Penman of the Revolution" the father of American conservatism (?).

Despite his "radicalism", another one of these early conservatives would have been Samuel Adams, who was outspoken opponent of "leveling", i.e., socialism.