Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives

Yes………. many people in my old church wasted a great deal of our precious time worrying about how and when those awful atheists and leftists were going to come up with some way to put us religious types into concentration camps…………. and try to force us to change as was done in Russia, China, North Korea and other communist nations.

Now I am worried about my own ignorance and ego……. The Devil that I now fear….. is the potential Satan within me that I can feed…. and feed…. and if I do….. that anti-Christ within will certainly grow.

One of the most ethical acts of the last fifty years was Operation Moses and Operation Solomon where the IDF airlifted thousands of Falasha Jews from Ethiopia to Israel. It was Israelis who were agnostic or atheist who were the strongest proponents of doing this. Many deeply religious people were too worried about a significant percentage of Ethiopians being influenced by Messianic Judaism or Christianity.

 

Here in Canada, even twenty or thirty years ago there was a tendency for Catholics to tend to vote for the Liberal Party whereas Protestants tended to vote for the Conservatives.

As you know….. Protestants tend to have a rather simplistic view of the spiritual level of salvation…… heaven or hell…… saved or lost.

Catholics believe in a middle ground….. purgatory….. and many even have an open mind toward ideas like reincarnation…… to explain what might happen after a soul makes it out of purgatory.

I have noticed what seems to be a correlation between a simplistic view of spiritual salvation…… with a more harsh view of the application of "salvation" to economics, job creation, a social safety net, free basic medical care, free basic education and assisting the poor.

I believe that Dr. Moses Coady's Catholic beliefs in their being hope…… for the unsaved deceased…… played a role in the astonishing cooperative movement that he began in the area where I live.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigonish_Movement

I was introduced to the idea of eventual nearly universal salvation as a teenager……. and I am now convinced that "Universal Salvation" can be applied to economics just as much as it has validity to an afterlife.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...eventually-led-back-heaven-paradise-love.html
Universal Salvation, is everybody eventually led back to heaven/paradise/love?
Mr. Christian Andreason, when attempting to put his astonishing near death experience into terms that all of us can relate to presented a powerful case...that yes....we will eventually all be "saved" and brought back into a state of mind of light and love!

For the time being it seems that differences in opinion over various doctrines is one of the greatest tests that we religious people face?!

Christian Andreason, Chapter 3:

http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html

(For the past decade or two there is a tendency for Canadians who attend church regularly to vote for the Conservative Party). Members of the Canadian Conservative movement do at the least tend to be strong supporters of Israel having a right to secure borders.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

 

Well Dale……………. You certainly seem like the type of guy who wouldn't mind expressing his opinion on a new poll that I have created?

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...tle-eight-years-when-you-could-have-16-a.html
Jeb Bush…. why settle for eight years when you could have 16?

Would you like to see Jeb be V. P. in 2016?

If he convinces Mitt to enter the campaign, yes!

No I would prefer to have Dr. Ben Carson as V. P. in 2016 and as President in 2024.

No…I want Jeb Bush to be President in 2016.

Yes… I think that Mitt and Jeb would beat Hillary Clinton.

 

It's the other way around. Population centers are the bastions of liberalism, that's where all the poor people are, and that's where all the freebies are. Out in the fields you work for a living, in the city you mostly sit around and watch TV.

 

I get the impression that you think that my purpose in beginning this thread was to prove to "conservatives"…….. that "liberals" are more intelligent than they are?

To this accusation……. I plead somewhat guilty!

I would love to see conservatives all over North America take such issues as climate change much more seriously. In 2008 I concentrated on climate change in my primary campaign writing as I took another shot at being elected to a political office.

But……… please read between the lines in what I wrote…………… isn't it obvious that I was also wanting to see "liberals" come to a more practical approach to doing something about climate change that would make sense to conservatives?

I WAS CLEARLY NOT ADVOCATING A CARBON TAX OR CAP AND TRADE SYSTEM AS THE MOST EFFECTIVE OPENING GAMBIT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE!

http://www.bankingsystemsflaws.blogspot.ca

September 15, 2008

Dear residents of Indian Harbour Lake, Sonora and Wine Harbour: I am campaigning for the office of Municipal Councilor for St. Mary's District 4.

There are three primary threats to the quality of life for all of us who live here. High unemployment will probably force most of our young people to move far away to find jobs. Because of government cut backs St. Mary's Educational Centre may be closed as early as 2011. In the near future record high tides may devastate our roads and homes that are only a few feet above sea level. We are being told that there is little that you and I can do about any of these problems but this is simply not true.

Satellite pictures show rapid melting of Arctic ice but only about ten percent is above water level. Ice occupies more space than liquid water so until now we have experienced rather little ocean level rise. Our situation will be entirely different if and when melting occurs in the massive ice pack on Greenland and Antarctica that sit on land.

I am in agreement with environmentalist and economist Bjorn Lomborg that a carbon shift policy will probably be ineffective over the short term in combating global temperature increases or in preventing a destructive rise in world ocean levels.

Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.

"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breathe, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere.. ."

"Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes...."

"Just take a look at any satellite picture of the earth showing heat and you will see that our deserts are the warmest spots on the planet by far. More heat is being generated by just one of the top four or five deserts than by all of our cities combined.... "

"The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave…."

"So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive…."

"Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…"

"We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell)."

Another promising method to green the deserts is to use hydrogen fuel cell technology to power vehicles in the hottest and driest regions of the earth. Imagine millions of vehicles across the Sahara, the Middle East, near the US Mojave desert and in the outback of Australia all spewing harmless water vapor as exhaust! Rest assured humidity and rainfall will increase in those areas and vegetation will grow.

Last week I wrote a lengthy e-mail to Green Party Leader Elizabeth May. "Ms. May, if you owned a large apartment building and your tenants complained that the rooms were too warm would you listen to the advice of the contractor who was telling you to rip all the insulation out of the walls of this structure?"

"I don't think that you would because your article indicates that you have a phenomenal intellect and listening to this probably self-interested contractor would be incredibly unwise!"

"Combating global warming by first getting rid of CO2 is comparable to tearing the insulation out of this hypothetical building. CO2 is not a pollutant. Plants love this compound and some people even seem to feel that the recent greening in some parts of the Sahara Desert is partly attributable to increased levels of CO2. I tend to strongly agree with them in this assertion."

"Several days ago Mr. Charles Moore informed me that Canada produces roughly only 2.5 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Our nation could invest billions of dollars into reducing our carbon footprint and yet all this would have essentially zero effect on the global environment if China and India did not take similar measures.... besides....CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT... PLANTS LIVE ON IT AND RISING WORLD OCEAN LEVELS ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY THE GREATEST MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT POSED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO EVERY COASTAL COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!! (E-mail, September 11, 200

Ms. May deserves credit for encouraging Canadian political leaders to take environmental issues more seriously but at this time I feel that she has far too much confidence in the proposals put forward at Kyoto. The skepticism that Prime Minister Harper had for this accord seems to have been based on sound reasoning. Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was wise to hope for more time to further study this complex subject before an election.

You would be astonished how many of our political leaders do not understand the tremendous benefits of historical Canadian monetary policy.

http://www.michaeljournal.org/appenB.htm

We can encourage our federal and provincial level officials to re-enact wise monetary policy such as Prime Minister Mackenzie King did in 1940 by organizing a local film production cooperatives or company. Due to our proximity to the ocean we should all be highly motivated to produce films and effectively use the media to educate individuals and politicians all across Canada through YouTube.com. Time is limited if we hope to stimulate our economy, save our elementary school and prevent the loss of our roads and homes to the threat of rising ocean levels.

We have been told that we are almost helpless before these massive problems but what did the author of Genesis say about human capability for either evil or good if we unite on a common goal:

"And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Can we visualize extensively using hydrogen fuel cell cars in California, Nevada, New Mexico, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Australia and Kuwait?
"And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water." (Isaiah 35)

Please also take a look at my campaign writings from 2004 and 2006:
www.bankingsystemflaws.blogspot.com/

If you elect me as your Municipal Councillor on October 18 I will try my best to promote effective solutions to our greatest problems to all who will listen.

Thank you for your considering of this information and for your support.

Kind regards.

Dennis Tate


Update as of March 27, 2012:
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A very interesting point indeed!

Yes……. I live in the country and I remember those times when I lived in Halifax that I tended to do very little outside my apartment……. partly because it costed so much to do anything in the city!

Here in the country we can take our two dogs…… jump in the car….. drive 5 kms to a quite nice beach…… and spend two to five hours there that costs us no more than a dollar or two for the gas!

 

I've neither need nor desire to take your surveys or click on your links.

Thanks, anyway.

 

These threads crop up from time to time and they are almost always authored by those with liberal views seeking some kind of assurance that their beliefs are valid even in the face of evidence that they are not. The view from here seems to support the observation that liberalism is closer to delusional insanity than high intelligence. The dinner table definition of insanity is to keep staying the course with a failed plan each time expecting a different result. Kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic and hoping the iceberg (reality) will vanish in the presence of self-appointed intellectual superiority. It's been demonstrated historically that high intelligence among humans favors libertarian politics and limited government. Most professional liberals maintain their livelihoods via taxation so it is not surprising that they tout the benefits of income redistribution and "fairness". They feel compelled to attack the successful who are usually self made and demonize them because they see them as a threat to central planning or Titanic oriented thinking.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/liberal-vs-conservative-who-has-better-brain/

http://www.conservativehome.com/pla...e-clever-but-theyre-certainly-not-humble.html

 

Or maybe, just maybe.

Just maybe.

Get this crazy idea:

Maybe other people just have different opinions and you aren't automatically superior to people you disagree with.

 

All the real liberals I know are socialists. Socialists are all a bunch of mental cripples who have to sponge a living off of other people who support themselves, have jobs, and pay taxes. I don't know any liberals who are patriots or who love this country. They are almost never in control of their own lives but they want to tell conservatives what to do. They all seem to think we should not have borders and that everybody should be able to get everything they want from the government for free. We would be much better off without them.

 

You know what they say about opinions. If there is an opinion based upon an idea, then great! But then you run into the problem that some ideas really are better than other ideas.

 

Obviously we can not generalize. There are dumb liberals and smart conservatives and vice versa.

The claims that "liberals want to maintain their livelihoods via taxation (read high taxation)" is an equally silly generalization.

If one actually defines what "Liberal" means from a historical perspective.

One quickly sees that the term "liberal" has been bastardized.

This is the same for the idea that conservatives of today somehow represent free and fair markets, the constitution, limited government, "fiscal conservatism" and so on. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is that the raging masses in general are not exactly shining examples of human intelligence. As far as I am concerned the average Joe is too ignorant be allowed to vote.

This is not due to the lack of intelligence on their part but due to a lack of education in relation to what casting a vote actually means with respect to our system of Government ... but that is another story.

One thing I will say is that the religious right does not garner high marks by running around claiming that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that some Global flood wiped out all of humanity roughly 4000 years ago or that a single human cell equals a living human.

Again this is more a function of ignorance than a lack of intelligence. One can come up with examples of ignorance on the part of certain groups of Dems as well although these perhaps would not be so glaringly obvious.

At the end of the day the average Red-Joe or Blue-Joe is very ignorant of the ideas on which this nation was founded.

Functional/legitimate democracy requires that those who vote actually have a clue about what their vote means and the basic ideas by which liberal democracy differs from totalitarianism.

Otherwise they will just vote themselves into totalitarianism which is what they are doing.

 

You don't know any liberals do you? Why do you have to make up stuff?

 

Anyone who confuses the political shorthand terms "liberal" and "conservative" with cohesive political theories or ideologies historically has a double digit IQ or is at least woefully ignorant of legal and political history. This is probably the most pervasive, obvious error repeated on this forum. In historical terms, the tea party is "liberal" and statists are "conservative." Just one glaring example of how ignorant misuse of shorthand terms leads absolutely nowhere.

 

I'm a Democrat myself but I have a question. If we're so smart why has the right got the money?

 

For some, yes, but for most, no. Msot liberals have an agenda, and they are just using these threads to push it. They have no interest in an open and honest discussion, they just want to trash and bash people. They don't want to learn anything new, jsut want to trash and bash people. They don't want to resolve or solve problems, they just want to trash and bash people.

you really can't have any kind of real discussion with them.

Same things goes for other people too.

Being open and objective means that

There is the possibility that you could be wrong
looking at all relevant information that you can before making a conclusion.

For instance, any thread that starts with a hyperbolic title that is about liberals OR conservatives is nothing more than a trash and bash thread.

When you start looking into things, you'll find that a lot of the OPs are just outright lies.

Suach as saying conservatives don't ahve any programs of their own to replace health care. Or if conservatives don't speak up and out against racism then they must be racists too.

On and on and on and on and on, forever and ever and ever.

Nothing ever changes.

It's all nothing but trashing and bashing.

because that's what is fun, and I always imagine these people getting a little mahogany or drooling over it.

And there are ways you cant tell.

But always do some searching first. Theya re always going to be a pack of partisan lies.

Always.

No exceptions to the rule.

None what so ever.

 

Tram Law.... what did you personally think of Romney Care?

I'm Canadian..... so as you can guess....... I was pretty impressed by what I heard about what he organized in Massachussets.

For the record........ I will plead guilty for having something of an agenda and long term plan in mind even when I begin a controversial topic........

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...tle-eight-years-when-you-could-have-16-a.html

Jeb Bush…. why settle for eight years when you could have 16?



What I mean by this is that I am making the exact same suggestion to you Sir, that I made to Dr. Ben Carson and his team a few months ago.

Jeb………. Mr. Mitt Romney impresses me as somebody who makes a serious attempt to tell the truth when it comes to critical matters. (Like your older brother he knows though that
once one attains the office of President of the United States, under certain conditions one must learn to not tell ALL THE TRUTH…on all subjects, all the time, because by doing so a great deal of harm can be done. President George W. Bush was
extremely wise to allow so many American to think that he was foolish…… as opposed to letting them know how much danger they actually had been in previous to the decision to invade Iraq)?!

Jeb……. Mitt has a valid point…. that he might just be in a better position to defeat Senator Hillary Clinton than you are…………. so obviously if you spoke with him and agreed to be his candidate for V. P…… then America would be amazed by your act of humility……… and the G. O. P. might just have Mitt Romney as President from 2016 to 2024 and Jeb Bush as President from 2024 to 2032?!

 

I don't know anything about Romney Care so I can't comment.

And personally i believe it is not the government's job to provide it. There really is no provision in the Constitution for the government to do this and other sorts of welfare.

Healthcare should be left up to the business sector.

But I would also support some regulation of health care in order to prevent scams and cons and abuses for both the business people providing it and the customers.

 

I must disagree with this idea of "healthcare should be left up to the business sector."

One of the reasons is that the business sector has a tendency to behave more and more like a ….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)

If healthcare is one hundred percent left up to the business sector then we would take a step back a century…….. and people would be dying from problems that actually could be quite inexpensive to treat.

On the other hand……. I have to admit that the business sector…….. could get involved in greatly increasing volunteerism through some sort of "Volunteerism Hour or Dollar" and if they did…….. then they might just be able to greatly decrease the burden on the taxpayer.

http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/413842-donald-trump-files-statement-candidacy.html
Donald trump files statement of candidacy

…..

 

If there was no Middle class who would Gates have sold Windows to?

Or Ford his cars? The Walton's merchandise? Tyson Chickens?etc etc

The rich make money by selling goods and services. Other rich people can only buy so much. (A rich person still only needs one washing machine)

 

A century ago people weren't dying from problems that actually could be quite inexpensive to treat because business provided health care. They were dying because the malady was not inexpensive to treat back then because the health and drug businesses hadn't yet found those cures.

 

I could entertain you for hours with true stories about liberals I have known, showing just how stupid they really can be. But you wouldn't read it, and if you did you wouldn't believe it anyway. Liberals are the kind of people who think its OK for one person to take what another person has worked for. That makes them worthless as far as I'm concerned.

 

PatriotNews..... in your opinion......… am I incorrect to think that the G. O. P. could greatly benefit if the Presidential campaign of near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley were to gain momentum?

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...mpaign-gains-momentum-g-o-p-can-reformed.html

If Dannion Brinkley's campaign gains momentum.... the G.O.P. can be reformed!



In my opinion...… The Democrats and G. O. P. are too divided......… if they can find more common ground to cooperate on...… they would become somewhat more polite to each other...… and the stage would be set for significant progress.

There is a near death experiencer who is willing to campaign for the office of POTUS and if his campaign gains momentum...… and if his desire to team up with Donald Trump comes to pass........... the most bigoted members of the G. O. P. could well confront information that will transform how they view the LGBT community???!

http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

 

It depends on the issue, but I believe liberals defeat conservatives because they live in reality unlike conservatives who don't.

 

My former boss is a republican and he is by far the dumbest person on the face of the earth. Not just with politics, he is ignorant in all aspects of life. If the republican party is anything like him then I would have to say the thread hit the nail on the head. Republicans as a whole are pretty dumb. Democrats on the other hand may be able to compute 2+2 but they are a bunch incompetent diaper babies that need the government to protect them from themselves. Both parties make me sick the politicians are lying sacks of _ _ _ _ and a bunch of Esquire's and Magistrates (Members of the BAR) loyal to the crown.