Why Zionists think they had this right to occupy Palestine?

In time of governing ottoman because of hard economic situation of government which was result of European countries pressure, Zionists used this issue and bought some land in Palestine and built a settlement there in1878.in the time of Ottoman obliteration, 1918 they owned 42 hectare which was 1.56% of Palestine. They have started this project about 1882. But couldn't improve so much, until Herzl's endeavor and the first Zionist Congress…
When UK occupied Palestine officially in 25 April 1920 but before that sth wired happened.The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.
" His Majesty's government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
means UK promised Zionists to give them the land which didn't own!(the reason was two, one was great Zionists authority in UK government like some Zionists ministers, and also UK needs for Zionists support in war as they had powerful authority in many countries like US and also their great wealth). The First World began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918. After World War I Palestine was given to UK, so it could keep its promise!
So U see it has nothing to do with Holocaust!!!that happened before that.actually they use Holocaust as an excuse.
of course, even if it did,what Germans did had nothing to do with Palestinian.but anyway in this time UK changed lots of law to keep its promise .so UK confiscated many forms and land in different ways and gave them to Zionists

But in spite of all these in 1930 J.H.Simpson who was UK expert went to Palestine to search for solution declared in his report
"It has emerged quite definitely that there is at the present time and with the Present methods of Arab cultivation no margin of land available for agricultural settlement by new immigrants, with the exception of such undeveloped land as the various Jewish Agencies hold in reserve".
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/...256D19004F057C
But unfortunately before General Assembly in 1947 that called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states Zionists only owned 6.6% of Palestine

regardless to that they got more land in 1948 in the war which more than 1 million and 2 thousands Palestinian (1,200,000) got vagrant and homeless. And 531 cities and villages totally ruined. And lots of great massacres like Deir Yassin happened.
http://english.palinfo.com/site/pages/details.aspx?itemid=71128
In 1967 another war happened and more land occupied.so about 78% of Palestine was occupied IN WAR and bu force.

And even Israeli regime officially declared it won't care about UN 1967 resolution. So Palestinians homes are being occupied NOW!!and still some parts of Syria and Lebanon is occupied by them (even while Hezbollah and Syria government could get successful in making them go out of great part of that) .UN is for all nations or for US and Zionists benefit?!
And another important point in this case is Zionists don't stop this massacre!
While what Zionists did and are doing is not even comparable with what Palestinians did in defending themselves U call Palestinians terrorist and Zionists are some innocent angels who whatever they do, doesn't change that! Even these: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_Zionist_crimes

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Why Zionists think they had this right to occupy Palestine?why some people think Palestinians don't have this right to get their home back??or at least stop Zionists from more occupation and massacre?!
If someone makes U go out of your home by force U don't have this right to get back your home!?

 

The Allied Powersw decided that the Jews were more important than the Arabs of Palestine.

 

Palestinians were gifted that land, they never ruled there. They were basically squatters that no other Arab nation wanted to deal with. For some measly help during the war they were given the land.

 

what do U mean by that?!?!!!!
they have lived there for many many years!do U know history even?!
Zionists got many land in 1948 in the war which more than 1 million and 2 thousands Palestinian (1,200,000) got vagrant and homeless. And 531 cities and villages totally ruined.also they killed many Palestinians and brought about many massacres
In 1967 another war happened and more land occupied.so about 78% of Palestine was occupied IN WAR and by force!!
some of Palestinian refugees still have kept the key of their homes!
so other people have this right to make U go out of your home because U were gifted America?!!!!

 

Of course I know history. The Palestinians were nomads hanging out there while the Ottoman Empire ran it. They were promised the land during the war to help terrorize that Empire. About 3 battles they fought.

And they have never ruled there, but the Jews did.

 

LOL!!!
that is all wrong!U have thought Palestine was a unpeople desert?!
what U say is historically worthless U can have a look : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Ottoman_Palestine

the Islamic Empire, controlled Palestine beginning in 634 CE.when Crusaders attacked there in 1098 they brought about many massacres and killed many Arab Muslims , as an example it is a part of history of those days:
Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1099)
and after that Muslims retook there and they have governed there and lived there for many years.also it's happening is mentioned in history very clear.happening about peoples and governors.
also oldness of ancient buildings of Muslims that many of them like Al-Aqsa mosque which is very very important for Muslims (because of some religious happening in the time of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) shows what U say is nonsense

another evidence for that is in 1930 J.H.Simpson ( UK expert who went to Palestine to search for solution) report
"It has emerged quite definitely that there is at the present time and with the Present methods of Arab cultivation no margin of land available for agricultural settlement by new immigrants, with the exception of such undeveloped land as the various Jewish Agencies hold in reserve".
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/...256D19004F057C

also what I am telling U is not about ancient time!!!
in 1948 the war more than 1 million and 2 thousands Palestinian (1,200,000) got vagrant and homeless. And 531 cities and villages demolished.1,200,000 people who had to leave their home.read it as one example: http://english.palinfo.com/site/pages/details.aspx?itemid=71128

 

The Arab nations ganged up on the Israelis twice and and were beaten TWICE. End of story...to the victor go the spoils.

 

So tell me the name of the last ruler of the great state of Palestine.

 

not according to international law

 

lol international law.

 

yes, Israel laughs at such things, even though they have signed international laws.

its all part of the Kol Nidre, the Jewish prayer where all oaths, promises, and debts are declared null & void.

 

yes yes its those dastardly villianous jews fault!!! It couldn't possibly be the fault of those who make and enforce international law (un) that international law is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke

 

Israel signed the 4th Geneva Conventions and the 1907 Hague regulations.

but according to the Kol Nidre, they can forget about their promises.

 

Everyone can. Its not like any of those things are enforced when a country says "go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourselves UNos", that is unless the UN demands the US enforce it and there's something in it for us. Open your eyes man, no one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about international law MOD EDIT>>>RULE 7<<<

 

Its funny how liberals lay tons of blame on Israel for ignoring UN treaties but when Saddam did it they think we should have ignored it.

Hypocrites, the lot of them.

 

Wow so now you advocate invading Israel? Stupid right wing desperate argument.

 

If the UN would like to give Israel an ultimatum, and they refuse, then yes......invade them. Remember that when Saddam ignored UN mandates he was given a chance to comply. He could still be in power today if he wanted too.

Still, the point is that liberals do not hold Saddam accountable but they hold Israel accountable for doing the exact same thing.

 

Saddam was a long contained issue and no threat to anyone. Thanks to American support - Israel is a real and present danger to the region and the world. Big difference. And no one ever said we should invade Israel.

Your point is thus crushed by reality.

 

after massacres Crusaders brought about Muslims retook Palestine in 12 century.and Mamluks Governed Palestine in a bout 14 century.there was a war between them and Ottoman Empire .In 1486, hostilities broke out between the Mamluks and the Ottoman Turks in a battle for control over western Asia. The Mamluk armies were eventually defeated by the forces of the Ottoman Sultan, Selim I, and lost control of Palestine after the 1516 battle of Marj Dabiq.In 1516, when the Ottoman Turks occupied Palestine, the land became part of the Ottoman Empire, and Istanbul appointed local governors.
anyway what I have tolled U in ex-post which was some certainties historical facts was enough for your undocumented claims.

 

come on!!Saddam was good man while he was useful for US.when he attacked Iran he had US full supports,even US took part in war directly to help him.but he got bad man when he started to sell Iraq oil in Euro but not Dollar!

 

UN?!!
so what happened to democracy?!?Palestinian had no right to decide for their own fate and it was someone else right from other countries to gather and decide for them?!?
General Assembly in 1947 that called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states while Zionists only owned 6.6% of Palestine.but Palestinian had no role in this decision.and also that was all because of UK helps to Jews migrators.78% of Palestine was occupied IN WAR .
even Israeli regime officially declared it won't care about UN 1967 resolution. So Palestinians homes are being occupied NOW!!and still some parts of Syria and Lebanon is occupied by them.
also Israeli regime has thousands of Nuke-bombs but no one in IAEA had this chance to visit their sites for one time!!!but what UN did?nothing!
they also did a lot of crimes in Gaza ad used many banned weapons but what happened?they have blocked Gaza for 8 and those people are in terrible situation.they even bombed schools owned by UN.but what happened?nothing!
Israel has imposed a strict naval blockade on the Gaza Strip since 2007. The 1.8 million inhabitants of the besieged Palestinian enclave have been deprived of many of their most basic needs under the near decade-long blockade.
In July and August 2014, more than 2,100 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip were killed and 11,000 injured -mostly women and children
UN is only useful for US when it wants to fine some excuse against its opposition.
HYPOCRISY!

 

Yes, the Zionists got the land by means that we don't like in 2014. Means similar to:

Louisiana Purchase
Soviet/Russian annexation of East Prussia (which had been German for nearly a thousand years) after they conquered it
Poland: was given German lands that had been a part of Germany for centuries in the Versailles Treaty
France: in the Treaty of Versailles, France was given the Saar, which was nearly wholly German territory.
Poland: after ww2 (really delayed, because they weren't indpendent until 1989) were given portions of what before Versailles was German territory for centuries, where Germans lived

The list could go on, but this much should be made clear - how Israel got its land is historically normal. It's amazing that the how is suddenly a grievous crime for Israel... but no one gives a crap about how Germany at the same time lost its land, or how its neighbors took it. Also, remember that the Zionists (this is before the establishment of the state) bought a ton of land, which is why it is somewhat comparable to the Louisiana Purchase.

 

Like the East Prussians, West Prussians, the German people of Schleswig-Holstein, the German people of the Sudetenland, the Karelians, the Tibetans, the Okinawans, the Confederate States, the Crimeans, the people of Danzig, the people of Georgia (occupied by Russia), and on, and on, and on. But why are the Palestinians considered so radically different from all the other people who were denied popular sovereignty?

 

Wow! you made a good twist of the history. Just in one shot you made Palestanian occupation suspicious. Anyway they are not their anymore.

 

well U have lost sth.sth that makes this case different.(those wars was between Governess.but this one no)
the matter is when another government occupied apart of the other country they never did what Zionists did in Palestine.they made people go out of their home.
they FORCED PALESTINIANS TO EVACUATE THEIR HOMES so they can go and live there.Zionist organization gathered some Jews from other countries to PRODUCE(!!!) a nation!
still some of the Palestinians kept the key of their houses and remember the time Zionists gave them a deadline for evacuating their village and if they didn't what happened to other villages became their fate too.so they changed to some refugees in other countries
and again the matter is Zionists don't get satisfied with that.they want from Nil river(in Egypt) to Euphrates river(in Iraq)!. and that is what mad them get revenge on Palestinians about Holocaust instead of Germans!!! and if Hezbollah couldn't became successful in making them go out of Lebanon now we had Lebanese refugees too!
also Palestinian --the main owner of that land -- have no right to decide for their land.actually they are from no where!!they are just some refugees.
another problem in this case is Zionists crimes against them which no one cares about it . have a look http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_Zionist_crimes