Did Anybody See Meet the Press, Today ? Good Grief !

It's been a while since I've watched Meet the Press, so I thought I'd tune it in today, and see what they're saying. Oh boy! I felt like like I might have been watching any of the basement ratings shows on MSNBC. Talk about slanted - this was a textbook example.

First, I'll give them a little credit for having 3 conservatives on (as opposed to many more liberals). The 3 conservatives were Raul Labrador (R-ID), who is strong on opposition to illegal immigration, Danielle Pletka, of American Enterprise Institute, who made a very forceful condemnation of the Iraq deal (giveaway), and Sen. Tom cotton of Arkansas. That said, just about all the rest of the show was about the equivalent of a Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders campaign commercial.

Obviously biased show host Chuck Todd, put up a series of statistics clearly designed to nullify opposition to illegal immigration, while simultaneously throw a grenade at the Donald Trump campaign (which went on all through the show). At this point, let me say that I don't necessarily believe a word of Todd's statistical graphics, or the notions that they are supposed to represent.
For example, it was said that out-migration of illegal aliens has been equal to in-migration of illegals. This apparently is supposed to be saying that since there is not a net influx, that now everything is OK, no need for any alarm about illegal immigration, and that Donald Trump's words have no validity.

EARTH TO MEET THE PRESS: There should not be ANY in-migration of illegal aliens, and the fact that the net is zero, that means that the inflow is causing the net amount to be worse than the positive outflow we would have, were it not for that inflow. And the inflow of illegals is completely nullifying the work of ICE, and whoever else doing the work of deportation which should be a positive ++++ very high number, as it was in the mid 1950s, with Operation Wetback, during the Eisenhower administration.

I could list one head scratcher after another here. Another was Andrew Friedman who said we lost the war in Iraq. WHaaaat ? Thousands of American soldiers died in that war, and were absolutely VICTORIOUS, after the 2007 surge, with Iraq under control of American-friendly forces, and remained that way well until 2011, when Obama removed US troops. It was only THAT which turned a victory into a takeover by ISIS.

The whole show was a big Trump-bashing, with even conservative Danielle Pletka joining the party and calling Trump an "idiot". Bill Richardson (long-time illegal alien ass-kisser) called Trump a "side-show" and everyone, including Rick Perry, seeming to be falling all over themselves to slam Trump on his remarks about John McCain.

Perhaps the most puzzling was Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell both saying that the John McCain thing has gotten Republican candidates to now start attacking Trump's comments about immigration, whereas they had been silent about it up to now. Uh, excuse me ? Maybe this is another of those examples of liberal ignorance, coming from observing too much liberal omission media, but the GOP boys (and one girl) have been attacking Trump's immigration words since the day he spoke them. And, it might be noted, that with every criticism barb they've thrown, their poll ratings have shrunk another notch.

Interesting how they are all now scrambling, along with the liberals, to try to make some hay out of the little McCain flap, and use it to derail Trump, to the point of pretending that this is the end of Trump's candidacy. Funny the things you see coming from desperate people.

One last point, is I will credit Meet the Press, for having Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR), whose talk about the Iraq deal (giveaway) was brilliant, and even Bill Richardson, to his credit, slammed it too.

 

I don't watch TV as I am trying to keep my blood pressure in check. However, Trump's comments on McCain may not have been just a 'flap'. During McCain's stay at the Hanoi Hilton, the North Vietnamese put out a radio broadcast saying: "Prisoner of War Songbird is son of Admiral. This was broadcast to other prisoners of war as a type of psychological weapon. McCain was a prisoner of war and was the son of an Admiral. Whether the accusations of divulging secrets to the enemy are true cannot be confirmed--as usual. But, McCain's war hero status has been questioned before by left-wing pundits who dug deep into McCain's time as a prisoner of war. Trump may not have been too far off the mark in saying that 'McCain is not a war hero'.

 

Chuck Todd is no liberal, that's preposterous. Mainly NewsCorpse viewers and Limbaugh listeners would believe that.

If you click this, you can see who appeared in 2014.

I don't have the 2015 guest list, but you can bet since Todd took over (and is tanking), it's the same or even more biased towards republicans.

Stick to Fox Sunday - you'll feel right at home (pun intended).

 

I watched this program http://www.nbc.com/meet-the-press/video/meet-the-press-july-12-2015/2878848?onid=210121#vc210121=1

No statistical graphics were brought up. No mention was made about influx vs. outflow.

Facts about "Operation Wetback"
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/07/hoover-truman-ike-mass-deporters/

Q: Did Eisenhower deport 13 million illegal immigrants? Did Hoover and Truman use mass deportations to open jobs for U.S. citizens?

A: No. Nothing close to 13 million persons were deported during any administration. All three of these presidents wrestled with a rising tide of illegal immigration, but a long-running chain e-mail makes bogus claims about them.

Hoover did not use immigration policy to "create jobs" and never "ordered the deportation of all illegal aliens." During his four-year presidency, roughly 121,000 persons were officially deported or induced to leave through threat of deportation, according to our analysis of official statistics. (We explain our sources and analytical methods fully in the "Where We Got The Numbers" section.)
Truman did not try to "create jobs for returning veterans" by ordering deportations. In fact, he signed legislation protecting the rights of Mexican migrant laborers recruited legally to help harvest U.S. crops, and was unable to win congressional approval of measures to crack down on employers of illegal immigrants. During his nearly eight years in office, about 3.4 million were deported or left "voluntarily" under threat of deportation.
Eisenhower did not deport 13 million Mexicans. Only one-tenth that number was ever claimed by the federal officials in charge of "Operation Wetback," and even that figure is criticized as inflated by guesswork. Officially, just over 2.1 million were recorded as having been deported or having departed under threat of deportation.

No such comment was made.

No mention was made about John McCain.

They did poke at Trump a lot. He's so....pokeable.

 

As the Political Director of NBC and the Chief White House Correspondent for NBC News Chuck Todd very nearly worked as Barack Obama's Public Relations flack. Oh and for any leftist unaware of the reality in regards to their own political movement in this nation NBC Co-Owned MSNBC back when Chris Matthews was waxing poetic about the forking leg tingles he got every time candidate Barack Obama opened his freaking mouth to speak. Oh and . . . sheesh!

 

Obviously I meant Iran deal. Sorry.

 

I didn't say anything about WHO he has had on the show, other than the one show I saw. Nor do I care who he;s had. I've seen Todd plenty of times. He's a liberal, and I don't stick to anything. I watch a variety of media, and am well able to assess it without any coaching from you. If anything , I might give you lessons about liberal media omission and irresponsibility.

 

MTP has sucked since Tim Russert died. Todd is as inept as Gregory. Both liberal dimwits.

 

Either you watched a different show, or you dozed off a lot. LOL. Here's your corrections >>

1. Not only were statistical graphics mentioned, they were SHOWN, on large display boards.

2. Influx and out flow are my words, but they are the same as what was mentioned, just as I correctly mentioned in in the OP.

3. Your figure of "one tenth of 13 million (1.3 million) that Eisenhower deported is wrong. Then, you correctly say 2.1 million were deported.This included many who fled back to Mexico on their own, which can properly be considered part of Operation Wetback. (Strike 3) Your remarks are all over the place.

4. Freidman said what I said he said. Stay awake when you watch TV, and clean your ears.

5, MacCain was mentioned repeatedly, and by a few of the people on the show.

6. Congratulations. You finally got something right. Yes they poked at Trump a lot. Including Perry (whose poll #s reflect it, just like this mess of a post you posted, is a reflection of your INcredibility)

 

No doubt you are conversant with liberal media omissions and irresponsibility, but it appears you aren't conversant with the IDENTICAL behavior of conservative media.
Surely you are familiar with the extensive exploitation of Dr.Luntz' research by both FOX NEWS and the republican party, aren't you? With that, the liberal media still hasn't mastered the techniques, tho they continue to try.

 

If you think that conservative media is IDENTICAL (or anywhere close) to liberal omission and the irresponsibility of it, you are far off the mark.

Just comparing the large number of staff liberals on Fox with the rarity of conservatives on CNN and MSNBC is an indicator, for starters.

 

I have not looked at Cotton's remarks.

Danielle Pletka has no credibility at all, being a card carrying member of the disgraced Project for a New American Century. She's an apologist for Bush's catastrophic foreign policy, which was the prime reason Iran accelerated its nuclear program 12 years ago, in the first place.

As for Trump bashing. The guy is a carnival barker who is turning the Republican presidential campaign into a game show.

The show is called "Meet the Press", where official Washington and the DC media reflect the conventional wisdom. And the conventional wisdom in political circles is that Donald Trump is a totally untrustworthy con man. Every where that is except on the Fox Noise channel, which is promoting him, because it brings the angry white man back to the television set. They want him to last at least through the Fox sponsored GOP debate, for the ratings. They don't care what damage he does to the GOP brand. Neither does he.

Trump is riding his celebrity for what it's worth. And when he does drop out in a firey self righteous exhibition, he'll ride the celebrity he got out of it to leverage his real estate deals, peddle reality TV shows, and maybe sell some books through right wing publishers (although the bulk buying scam that has been going on for years has been exposed now, much to the chagrin of Harper Collins and Regnery).

Trump doesn't care about being president. He doesnt' even care about politics. He's a celebrity in the Sarah Palin mode. He feed red meat to the rubes for attention, and never has to take any responsibility for anything.

 

The United States lost the Iraq war. Iran won it, thanks to American stupidity and bungling.

 

Heh!

Chuck Todd worked on Senator Harkin's 1992 Presidential race, his wife, a former DNC staffer, founded a company that provides direct mail and consulting to Democrats and Progressives. So yeah, that sounds pretty liberal.

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The immigration "facts" that Todd wizzed over have been debunked numerous times, but hey, it's all part of the service that NBC provides to the Democratic Party! Why do the Democrats need to raise any money? They have the networks eating out of their hand.

 

Oh, how many staff liberals at FOX and how many staff conservatives at CNN and how many staff conservatives at MSNBC? Or is this simply an anecdotal observation on your part? OTOH, if one wants to compare partisan politicians "paid" to contribute to the "news", I do believe that FOX is way way way out front of the liberal media.


they are identical in their editorial behaviors which include irresponsibility, a plethora of unqualified and badly uninformed talking heads spouting partisan opinions, misrepresentations, "what they hear" bumperstickers and vocabularies, repetition of partisan distortions/misinterpretations and on and on. FOX wears its conservativism on its sleeve just like MSNBC does with its liberalism.
that one side caters to your perspectives, does not make them any less manipulative of audience opinion.

 

Right. Like NBC would hire a host for their beloved Sunday morning show that wasn't going to be a front man for the DNC...
And pigs fly south for the winter.

All the "wizards" that whine and kvetch about Fox news never consider or admit that Fox has filled an information and advocacy void created by the state approved media conglomerate.

They don't really mind one sided biased reporting...as long as their guys are doing it.

 

I watched it as well, and you are correct. I assume that the other poster watched a different show and got confused, or is a liar.

 

Why should any of our media be so impartial? It's stupid and divisive. I can see it will go on, though, for as long as these outlets are free to do this. I lament it because it only further cements the two-party, extremist camp-mentality that is debilitating our country as a democracy.

 

Fretting about Illegals is
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid
Until the borders are secured
360 degrees
Electronically and Boots on the ground.

That was the mistake of the Reagan Amnesty.
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too
Because they are wimps and won't defend "us" via their border control
AND a terrorist effort on Los Angeles International airport originated in Vancouver.

Secure the borders, then tell me about it.
Oh and secure the visa program too. Bust Students Visa holders who drop out, for example.


Moi


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Hybrids = Superior Illegals.​

 

You are making rebuttal so easy, I'm almost feeling guilty doing it.

1. Rather than a game show, what Trump is turning the Republican presidential campaign into, is one which is connected to the ISSUES, while some of the candidates still hide under their desks, paralyzed with fear of the so-called "Hispanic vote" (if there even is such a thing now).

2. Problem with the "conventional wisdom", is by being conventional, it is also UNwise (if not idiotic), due to its inability or refusal to confront issues as they really are. One could care less what the "conventional wisdom" has to say, as Trump's poll numbers show. But the talking head know-it-alls will continue to stick to their safe (they thought up until Trump came along) worthless, say-nothing, sugar-coated shields, because that's their dreary style.

3. I've seen both what might be described as promotion of Trump on Fox News, as well as severe derision of him (remember Fox has MANY liberals on their staff), and just about everything in between.

4. HA HA. Oh yeah. Fox is really worried about their "ratings", now aren't they ? Oh boy!

5. Many people think that Trump is giving the GOP some credibility, and strength, it has sorely been lacking due to the illegal alien, ass-kissing RINOs (Bush, Rubio, Graham, etc) that have dragging it down. This perspective is at least as valid as any other.

6. As for Trump's celebrity status, I have to laugh again, just like in my # 4 of this post. Same thing. Yeah, Trump's celebrity status really needs a boost, doesn't it ?
Aw gee, Poor Don. No fame. No noteriety. Nobody's ever heard of him. Poor guy.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth. Anyone without the DNC stamp of approval wouldn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell of being considered to host MTP.

Nail on head, again! The only thing that pisses liberals off more than FOX is smacking them with facts....man...they hate that! Well done!

 

Correction: The US WON that war, which then turned into a vacuum, due to Obama's removal of the troops. And Iran has now taken over the fighting to due to OBAMA's stupidity and bungling, against the advice of his own DOD Secretary (Gates), his generals, et al in his own administration, and that same behavior is continuing to this day..

 

Ah, the phenomenon wherein a leftist feels another leftist is not far left enough.

Explains the Bernie Sanders popularity among Democrats.

 

I will not only tell you HOW MANY liberals Fox has on its staff (its "on-air personalities), I will name them. And then I'll let you name how many Conservatives besides Steele and Morning Joe, MSNBC has on its staff (link to MSNBC included)

Liberals on Fox News staff

Bill Beckel, Kristen Powers, Alan Colmes, Susan Estrich, Juan Williams, Lanny Davis, Doug Schoen, Ellen Ratner, Geraldo Rivera, Tamara Holder, Dennis Kucinich, Andy Levy, Leslie Marshall, Lis Wiehl, Adam Lashinsky, Julie Roginsky (this list was even longer before the recent death of Geraldine Ferraro)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/#s=a-d

 

Maybe he did too much drugs when he was young (or still does)