Did Anybody See Meet the Press, Today ? Good Grief !

Thanks to OBAMA'S stupidity and bungling, you mean. Ever see the clip where Joe Biden in 2010 takes credit for the Obama admin for having created the stable, peaceful Iraq? I can post it if you'd like.

Obama's decision to bug out led to the rise of ISIS. I hope you don't buy that "status of forces" argument.

 

But FOX really is fair and balanced - with many liberals, that conservatives have to sit and grind their teeth watching, while watching Fox News. What you said is, however, descriptive of MSNBC, HLN, and CNN.

 

what Iraq deal were they talking about?

 

Thanks for that. Its a meaningless comparator but thanks for providing the info.

here's some info that might enlighten you a tad as you attempt an equivalency between Fox and MSNB, which aside from both being partisan are in completely different places with FOX having a huge advantage in its sway over its partisan audience.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/10/21/study-liberals-blase-about-msnbc-conservatives-crazy-about-fox-news/

 

if you think the US won that war you are naive. We bought some quiet. Obama got us out of there like the American people wanted.

 

Repeat of Post # 6 >> "Obviously I meant Iran deal. Sorry."

 

As I "attempt an equivalency between Fox and MSNB" ? HA HA.

EARTH TO JONSA: I didn't "attempt" anything. I produced a NON-equivalency between them, with Fox obviously fair and balanced exactly as they claim. See Post # 24.

 

First of all, Donald Trump is not talking about issues. He's making reckless comments for the entertainment of the AM talk radio right. Ranting about building walls on borders is not serious discussion, it's pandering to an audience that thinks in sound bytes.

Why don't you tell us what "issues" Donald has raised? What are his ideas? What has he proposed? How does he propose to accomplish what he has proposed?

You kow, all the things real political leaders talk about.

And Fox Noise is promoting Donald Trump heavily. Why? Because he's good for ratings. Roger Ailes knows the shallow thinking of his audience. And Trump's Archie Bunker act hits the note squarely!

The only people who think that Trump is giving the GOP credibility are the Limbaugh loonies. The rest of us are laughing at his act. And, make no mistake, it is an act.

Donald Trump doesn't give a damm about anything he say. He'll never be around to own any of it.

And, Donald Trump is ALWAYS seeking to boost his celebrity status.

 

FOX is just entertainment for right wingers and thats all it is.

 

[video=youtube;NoptofKbQ04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoptofKbQ04[/video]

 

Watched it again - July 12, 2015 episode. http://www.nbc.com/meet-the-press/video/meet-the-press-july-12-2015/2878848?onid=210121#vc210121=1

I stand by my statements watch it for yourselves folks.

No what I said was "Officially, just over 2.1 million were recorded as having been deported or having departed under threat of deportation."

Again folks, watch for yourselves at the link I gave at the start of the post. I stand by my statements.

 

Please cite your source for this.

 

Which episode did you watch?

 

So much genius on the loose today .......

<facepalm>

Check the OP.

 

Did not see July 19, 20015 episode listed.
Now I do.
Apologies but he should have noticed from the link I posted that it was a different episode.
Here is how to show an episode
Meet The Press July 19, 2015 http://www.nbc.com/meet-the-press/video/meet-the-press-july-19-2015/2880038?onid=146591
Mia Culpa

 

You can't seriously believe that Fox has no slant to it. Seems to me most in the conservative camp will at least admit that much, often pointing to MSNBC and the like as a justification ("but they do it too!")

 

I laughed down your first post about Fox looking to boost their ratings, and laughed down your comments about Trump and his celebrity status. Once is enough. I'm not looking to shred you. You're doing that well enough yourself.

So you ask what are Trump's positions on the issues. I duly reply >>

Besides immigration, Trump has very interesting perspectives regarding >>

1. International trade, outsourcing, China (devaluing their currency), India, Iran, ISIS, etc.

2. Trump is also for a ban on abortions, with exceptions for rape, incest or health.

3. Opposition to SCOTUS on same-sex marriage. Takes position that same-sex marriage is a state issue.

4. On corporations, Trump has insightful ideas >>

0% corporate tax would create millions of jobs. (Dec 2011)
Fight crony capitalism with a level playing field. (Dec 2011)
Wealthy move assets around globally based on tax incentives.


5. On education >>>

Common Core is a disaster. (Jun 2015)
Cut the Department of Education way, way down. (Jun 2015)
Founded Trump University to teach the art of deal-making. (Jun 2015)
Opposes Common Core. (Feb 2015)

6. On energy and oil >>>

Climate change is a hoax. (Jun 2015)
No Cap-and-Tax: oil is this country's lifeblood. (Dec 2011)
Jobs will slump until our lifeblood--oil--is cheap again. (Dec 2011)
Enough natural gas in Marcellus Shale for 110 year supply. (Dec 2011)
Libya: No oil, no support; no exceptions. (Dec 2011)
It's incredible how slowly we're drilling for oil. (Mar 2011)

7. On Family Values >>> Stresses importance of a strong family, & a culture of Life. (Jun 2015)

8. On Foreign Policy >>>

More sanctions on Iran; more support of Israel. (Jun 2015)
China is our enemy; they're bilking us for billions. (Dec 2011)
When you love America, you protect it with no apologies. (Dec 2011)
By 2027, tsunami as China overtakes US as largest economy. (Dec 2011)
Be tougher on China-we&#8217;re too eager to please. (Jul 2000)

9. On Free Trade >>>

China and Japan are beating us; I can beat China. (Jun 2015)
35% import tax on Mexican border. (Jun 2015)
Stupid people negotiate our trade bills, & trade won't work. (Jun 2015)
20% tax on all imported goods. (Dec 2011)
Fair trade instead of embarrassing deal with South Korea. (Dec 2011)
Repatriate jobs that China has been stealing. (Dec 2011)

10. On Gun Control >>>

A very strong person on the Second Amendment. (Jun 2015)
I am against gun control. (Feb 2011)

11. On Health Care >>>

ObamaCare is a catastrophe that must be repealed & replaced. (Jun 2015)
Don't cut Medicare; grow the economy to keep benefits. (Jun 2015)
ObamaCare deductibles are so high that it's useless. (Jun 2015)
Save Medicare & Medicaid without cutting them to the bone. (Jan 2015)
Kill ObamaCare before it becomes a trillion-ton weight. (Dec 2011)
Increase insurance competition across state lines. (Dec 2011)

12. On Homeland Security >>>

Having military members inside the US unarmed, is ridiculous (July 2015)
Our nuclear arsenal doesn't work; it's 30 years old. (Jun 2015)
Increased Veterans Day parade audience from 100 to 1 million. (Jun 2015)
Defeat ISIS and stop Islamic terrorists. (Jan 2015)
American interests come first; no apologies. (Dec 2011)
All freedoms flow from national security. (Dec 2011)
3% of GNP for military is too low. (Jul 2000)
Missile defense is inappropriate; focus on terrorism. (Jul 2000)
Prepare for bio-terrorism attack. (Jul 2000)

13. On Affirmative Action >>> Opposes AA to legally require hiring women & minorities. "Bad students (like Obama) shouldn't go to Harvard" LOL.

14. On Immigration >>>

Half of the undocumented residents in America are criminals. (Jun 2015)
Mexico & Latin America send us drugs, crime, and rapists. (Jun 2015)
Build great wall on southern border; have Mexico pay for it. (Jun 2015)
We need strong borders; we need a wall. (Feb 2015)
Citizenship for illegal immigrants is a GOP suicide mission. (Mar 2013)
351,000 illegal aliens are in our prisons; costing $1.1B. (Dec 2011)
Anchor babies were NEVER the intent of the 14th Amendment. (Dec 2011)
Invite foreigners graduating from college to stay in US. (Dec 2011)
Triple-layered fence & Predator drones on Mexican border. (Dec 2011)
Control borders; even legal immigration should be difficult. (Jul 2000)

15. On Jobs >>>

Real unemployment rate is 20%; don't believe 5.6%. (Jun 2015)
Raising business tax causes businesses to move jobs overseas. (Dec 2011)

16. On Principles & Values >>>

Attended military academy & Wharton Business School. (Jun 2015)
Stoked Tea Party suspicions about Obama's legitimacy. (Jan 2012)
5-point plan to return America to her former greatness. (Dec 2011)
USA is the greatest force for freedom world has ever known. (Dec 2011)
One hour to produce my birth certificate; Obama should too. (Feb 2011)
If I run & win, our country will be great again. (Feb 2011)
Never give up; look at the solution, not the problem. (Jan 200
To negotiate well, prepare and know as much as possible. (Jan 200
In the best negotiations, everyone wins. (Jan 200
Tell people you&#8217;re successful or they won&#8217;t know it. (Mar 2004)
Good management requires hiring good people. (Mar 2004)
Lessons: stay focused on big picture. (Mar 2004)
Surround yourself with people you can trust. (Mar 2004)
Non-politicians are the wave of the future. (Jul 2000)

17. On Social Security >>>

Cannot change Medicare or Soc.Sec. and still win elections. (Mar 2013)
Social Security isn't an "entitlement"; it's honoring a deal. (Dec 2011)
Disability Racket: $25B in fraudulent disability filings. (Dec 2011)
Pay off debt; put $3T interest savings into Trust Fund. (Jul 2000)

18. On Taxes >>>

One-time 14% tax on wealthy to pay down national debt. (Jun 2015)

4 brackets; 1-5-10-15%; kill death tax & corporate tax. (Dec 2011)
Cutting tax rates incentivizes a strong national work ethic. (Dec 2011)
Previously supported wealth tax; now supports Bush tax cuts. (Apr 2011)

19. On Technology >>>

Rebuild our infrastructure on time & on budget. (Jun 2015)
Emmy award & Hollywood Walk of Fame for "The Apprentice". (Jun 2015)
China threatens US with cyber warfare & industrial espionage. (Dec 2011)

20. On War & Peace >>>

Boots on the ground to fight ISIS. (Jun 2015)
I said "don't hit Iraq," because it destabilized Middle East. (Jun 2015)
Hit ISIS hard and fast. (Feb 2015)
Take $1.5T in oil from Iraq to pay for US victims. (Mar 2013)
Iraq should pick up the tab for their own liberation. (Dec 2011)
Stop Iran's nuclear programs by any & all means necessary. (Dec 2011)

21. On Welfare & Poverty >>>

Food stamps should be temporary; not a decade on the dole. (Dec 2011)
Apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs. (Dec 2011)

 

It's obvious you don't watch Fox, and you know little or nothing about it. Do you know who Julie Roginsky, Tamara Holder, and Adam Lashinsky are ? Do you know which Fox shows they appear on ? Or are you just repeating what your liberal masters have programmed you to say ?

 

The episode of the OP was TODAY, knucklehead, not July 12. And it will be on again (I think the same episode) in less than an hour at 2:30 AM, on MSNBC.

Psssst, forum members. I hope this poor soul finds his way. I do.

 

Might be better if you watched Fox News; then you'd hear what you want to hear.

 

It absolutely DOES have a slant to it, BUT it still is relatively quite fair and balanced, in that it has so many liberals, not just invited in from outside, but regulars who are on salary from Fox. Some (Shepard Smith, Geraldo Rivera) even have their own shows. In contrast, MSNBC is a 24/7 Hillary Clinton campaign commercial.
CNN isn't much better (Ex. Chris Cuomo interview of George Zimmerman, and Erin Burnett's interview of Ron Davis)

 

What I want to hear is the TRUTH. I find that on Fox much more than MSNBC or CNN. On those latter 2 stations, you not only often hear false information, but, as is common with liberal media, huge globs of information are never reported. This especially true on the subject of Islam/jihad, which for them, is generally forbidden fruit.

 

If that's the case, then why are you watching MSNBC in the first place? If I felt as you apparently do, I'd watch Fox and Fox only since according to you, they report the truth more then MSNBC or CNN.

 

I watch all the station to see what everyone is talking about. Watching MSNBC gives good intelligence information about what enemies of America (ex. Al Sharpton) are thinking, and saying, and doing) If the scant few people who watch MSNBC and CNN exclusively, would watch Fox, over some number of months, they probably would do as I do - ie. watch Fox 70% of the time, CNN 20 %, MSNBC 10%. Some might convert to watching Fox 100%.

I feel bad for them. At one time (when I was young and stupid) I was a total liberal. Campaigned for McGovern and Carter.

 

Yes, Thanks Obama. Not, American stupidity and bungling, Obama stupidity and bungling.