What Has President Obama Done That Is Worthwhile????

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are more in debt now. ($18 Trillion). Yes his largest piece of legislation is impressively bad.
     
  2. CRUE CAB

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    Well, we already had Carter. Was he a savior?
     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, when you make an assertion like I "actually did" claim Obama did everything on his own on the list, you do have an obligation to back it up.

    If you don't, it just shows you make BS up. And you wouldn't want people to think that about you, would you?

    I'm at a loss as to what you're trying to show here. Are you somehow trying to argue that my facts about initial unemployment claims decreasing to the lowest level in four decades is not fact?

    This was in the news just this week:

    Four Decade Low In US Initial Jobless Claims
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/07/23/four-decade-low-in-us-initial-jobless-claims/

    And what "cutting people off of unemployment that would have been still on it under previous administrations" are you talking about, and what does that have to do with initial unemployment claims?

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    I've never called him that. Is there some point you're trying to make?
     
  4. Arxael

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    Still refuted piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) con predictions that he wouldn't. Chew on that con.
     
  5. guttermouth

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    i already proved this one false you can stop crying



    I'm at a loss as to what you're trying to show here. Are you somehow trying to argue that my facts about initial unemployment claims decreasing to the lowest level in four decades is not fact?

    i can't dumb it down any further for you spud, have a nice day in potatoville.
     
  6. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've been more in debt under every president since WWII if not before. The difference is Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit, and unlike every recent president with an "R" in his party name, the deficit has dropped by 2/3rds.
     
  7. Cdnpoli

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    Obama is a damn good President. You'll miss him when he's gone.
     
  8. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny, I didn't see you quote anything I said claiming Obama did everything on his own on the list.

    I must concede that you've dumbed things down about as far as they can go.

    Anything else on my list you want to try to show is "b.s."?
     
  9. HerculesUnique

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    o Unemployment rate dropped from 10% to 5.5%

    Excluding those that just quit looking. If it wasn't for Ebay and Craigslist it would be worse yet.

    o Oil production increasing for the first time in decades.
    On PRIVATE lands despite the baboon and his anti oil rhetoric.

    o Passed health care reform that is providing coverage to tens of millions of Americans
    And (*)(*)(*)(*)ed others that already had it.

    o 125% increase in the stock markets since taking office
    Banks are giving .00001% for savings

    o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
    He's now DEAD and Libya is a killing field
    o US domestic oil use decreasing
    3 bucks a gallon will do that

    If Obama were a white Republican, conservatives would be hailing him as a savior.
    No, they would disown him
     
  10. guttermouth

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    im talking about how he had nothing to do with ousting "Kadaffi" you got that one wrong.



    obama didnt oust gaddafi and his job numbers are counted differently so so all he accomplished was changing the way unemployment was counted. theres your two, you have now made me explain the very same thing 4 times 4 different ways. if you're still having problems understanding then maybe your pet rock can explain it to you.
     
  11. HerculesUnique

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    I doubt the 3rd world that WISHED they were an American knows that much. Does ANY American GAF whats going on up there?
     
  12. pol meister

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    He inherited a national debt of $10.6 trillion, today it is $18.3 trillion.
    He inherited an employment participation rate of 65.7%, today it is 62.6%.

    Those two figures alone refute all of your previous claims of economic progress; unless you think massive debt and massive government dependency is economic progress. I don't think it is.
     
  13. Battle3

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    Since 2 is the number, here's 2 where you are wrong.

    obama did not get bin Laden, obama just happened to be in the White House when all the pieces came together. bin Laden was "got" through the hard work of a lot of faceless and nameless people who worked for years during Bush '43 and obama's terms. And a lot of those people had to deal with obama threatening to retroactively go after them for "torturing" terrorists. obama had nothing significant to do with it.

    You claim ousting Gaddafi is an achievement? Tell that to the innocent Libyans being killed by the new rulers of Libya - Ansar al-Sharia and their terrorist cohorts. Tell that to the dead American ambassador and the 3 Americans killed in that terrorist attack. Great job obama.

    And while I'm at it, all your petroleum/gas related claims are absolutely not achievements of obama. US oil use decreased because of the poor economy and expanded private natural gas production, US oil production increase due to that "evil" fracking and expanded drilling on private land, all despite Obama's attempts to shut it down.

    I had to just LOL at your claim the obamacare is a success, it was just reported that total health care spending increased from 1/6th of the economy to 1/5th, health care spending increases is outpacing economic growth, so things are going to get a lot worse. Another obama fail.

    And to top it off, you throw I a side ways claim of racism - the sure sign a "progressive" is desperate to keep the blinders on and hope his hero obama really is worth it.
     
  14. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The unemployment rate has never included people who aren't looking for a job.

    Doesn't refute the fact in the least.

    Most oil production is on private lands. Doesn't refute my fact in the least.

    Overbroad statement. But we always knew for some it would higher.

    Doesn't refute my fact in the least.
    Doesn't refute my fact in the least.

    So is Iraq. Doesn't refute my fact in the least.

    To the contrary. Lower gas prices generally results in greater demand.

    Doesn't refute my fact in the least.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion.
     
  15. Gatewood

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    Also bear in mind that if Obama finally succeeds in lifting this last ceiling cap then he will very deliberately run the national debt up to the 20 trillion mark before sliming his way out of office at the end of 2016. But -- alas -- considering their history under this president there is nothing to indicate that the GOPers will finally discover where they have hidden their community spine and stand firm against Obama and the Left-allied Mainstream Media who whore for him.
     
  16. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't refuted one fact on my list. I never claimed that Obama personally and single-handedly did everything on the list. No president does.

    And I appreciate the conservative double standard where Obama is responsible for everything that goes wrong but has nothing to do with anything that goes right. It makes it easier to be a conservative when you employ blatant double standards.

    But every fact on that list is accurate, and you have not refuted one item.

    Nor has anyone else.
     
  17. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There you guys go again, blaming Obaaaaama for the Great Recession he inherited.

    When you inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit and the worst recession in 80 years, yeah, the debt is going to increase. You're just trying to blame Obama for the Great Recession.

    But since he's been in office the deficit has fallen by 2/3rd. Remind us how the deficit went under the last few Republicans who held office.

    How does it refute even one fact on the list?
     
  18. HerculesUnique

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    Just curious, are you colored and like 97% of the stupid you just couldn't help yourself?
     
  19. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another in a long list of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) conservative claims.

    When facts don't work work for them, as is the norm, we can count on them to make unprovable, baseless claims about the future. This is another example.

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    Thanks for supporting my opinion about Obama would be hailed as a savior if he were a white Republican.
     
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    No such thing, the pos said he would fundamentally xform the country.... he's giving it a good try. Even if he were good looking Id hate him all the same. :cool:
     
  21. bwk

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    You said Bluesguy debunked this entire list. Are you saying that the first one on that list was eviscerated? Prove to us by way of a link how Obama "DID NOT" stop the shedding of 700,000 jobs a month in 2009, according to you and Bluesguy?
     
  22. Iriemon

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    Sure thing. I'm sure the fact he is "colored" has nothing to do with it for you.
     
  23. HerculesUnique

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    Actually half colored, LtCol West a proud man that happens to be black Bobo isn't.
    Then again there's those Uncle Toms huh? :roll:
     
  24. bwk

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    Lol! Bush gave up on him. He didn't know if he was alive or dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o But Obama never gave up. Obama without a doubt never took his eye off the ball. Which explains why Bin Laden was still alive throughout the rest of Bush's term. Bush did. The history books will certainly give credit to Obama, while Bush gave up. You won't have to worry about that.
     
  25. Iriemon

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    What was it Bush said? Bin Laden wasn't a priority, or something like that.
     

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