Sorry, President Pants-on-Fire But Alaska Is Cooling Not Warming

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama tells complete falsehoods in his ongoing attempt to pretend AGW is real:



    Sorry, President Pants-on-Fire But Alaska Is Cooling Not Warming




    President Obama recently visited Alaska in search of the mythical beast they call ManBearPig – as part of his ongoing mission to persuade an increasingly skeptical world that climate change represents the greatest threat of our age. Not even a string of plausible lies could save his mission from failure.

    In a speech to international delegates at the GLACIER conference, he said:


    "Our understanding of climate change advances each day. Human activity is disrupting the climate, in many ways faster than we previously thought. The science is stark. It is sharpening. It proves that this once-distant threat is now very much in the present.

    In fact, the Arctic is the leading edge of climate change — our leading indicator of what the entire planet faces. Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average. Over the past 60 years, Alaska has warmed about twice as fast as the rest of the United States. Last year was Alaska’s warmest year on record — just as it was for the rest of the world. And the impacts here are very real."

    But only the first of those sentences is true. All the others – as researcher Paul Homewood notes – are demonstrably false.

    Yes, Alaska does look as it if has been warming slightly, if you look at the data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

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    However, NOAA is notorious for adjusting raw data for political purposes – in order to exaggerate “global warming”. And so it would appear to be the case with Alaska.

    As Homewood shows, if you look at the data from the Alaska Climate Research Center, most sites in Alaska have been cooling not warming.


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    The big exception is Barrow, whose 5 degrees F warming has completely skewed the average. But Barrow – whose population grew from 300 in 1900 to 4600 in 2000 – is vulnerable to the Urban Heat Island effect. That is, its recent weather station readings have been artificially warmed by the heat from the town. And instead of adjusting for this, NOAA was caught out – again by Paul Homewood – doing the exact opposite: fiddling the data in order to exaggerate the supposed global warming in the area.

    Remove the distorted and unreliable Barrow figures from the data and the average cooling since 1977 would be considerably greater than that paltry -0.1 degrees F.

    As for that phrase of the President’s about “the impacts here are very real”: presumably, he meant those tragically melting glaciers, like the Exit Glacier he visited in a publicity stunt with Bear Grylls.

    Yes, the glaciers of Alaska may be retreating. But this has nothing whatsoever due to man-made global warming. We know this because they began their retreat in about 1770 AD long before anthropogenic carbon-dioxide emissions could have made any plausible difference to climate. See figure below:

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    More Warmist bullcrap exposed. Obama's desperate need to serve up US taxpayers to the UN's outrageous wealth redistribution scam, is just another anti-American outrage from this leftist buffoon.
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Now hold on just a minute there Slick. The deniers have been telling us for years that humans are too small and insignificant to have any effect on temperature, and now suddenly you are saying that an increase in human population is responsible for the increase in temperature in Barrow.

    "Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate
    To suggest that humanity is capable of impacting and disturbing forces of such magnitude is reflective of a self-centred arrogance that is mind numbing. Humanity is a subset of Nature. Nature is not a subset of humanity. We have travelled full circle. We are back in the mindset that prevailed when Society’s leaders dictated what people in Copernicus’ days may or may not think. The Earth is once again flat."
    (source: Financial Sense University)
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    Good news.

    I'll tell my brother in law that it is just his imagination that he is no longer able to get to his favorite moose hunting spot because of thawing of the
    permafrost in tundra areas. Obviously somebody who lives in the area in question should defer to some guy from Indiana.

    Go team.
     
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    What I think he means is that some weather stations may have been surrounded by trees 25 years ago and now that there's a parking lot around it today the station reads the heat absorbed by the asphalt.
     
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    Actually his statement seemed quite specific and never mentioned trees or asphalt.

    "The big exception is Barrow, whose 5 degrees F warming has completely skewed the average. But Barrow – whose population grew from 300 in 1900 to 4600 in 2000 – is vulnerable to the Urban Heat Island effect. That is, its recent weather station readings have been artificially warmed by the heat from the town."

    http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/news/brw40th.html

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    he's wearing a jacket in summer, right?

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    Of course........he has a selfie stick in Alaska. Of course.
     
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    So the message is that Obama is wrong about warming in Alaska and to prove that you just fudge the numbers right in plain view. Yeah, no one will notice that!
     
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    Is this too an exaggeration of global warming of the oceans and dying coral reefs; http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...efs-and-their-underwater-beauty-508958275889?
     
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    Lol...So much puerile partisan nonsense. Meanwhile, the Arctic nations are all scrambling to stake their claims as the ocean ice melts and the Arctic becomes navigable.
     
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    A picture worth 1,000 words!
     
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    What about GLOBAL warming do you not understand?
     
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    Global warming is going to amplify all those problems.
     
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    coral reefs are constantly dying it is what forms them if they never died they never will have been formed
    coral reefs are built upon the skeletons of the ones that had died before them

    Jesus Christ people learn a dam thing about something before you just spew propaganda that you read from some snake oil salesman. learn the dam difference between causation and correlation

    coral reefs have been dying and rebuilding dyeing and rebuilding for hundreds of thousands of year if not longer it is what has formed them

    it is just another attempt to blame a natural reoccurring cycle that has been going on for millennium on man in attempt to prove a false assertion for nothing but a political purpose
     
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    yes, the possible rise in temps a giant degree or so Fahrenheit in the next hundred years is far worse for us than all those other actual disasters...
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trying to pretend humans are the cause of climatic change. What about downward trending temps do you not understand?

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    Complete and total NONSENSE. Leftist "Sugar Plum Fairy " BULL(*)(*)(*)(*).

    The UN's Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption $cam is nothing more than an income redistribution $cam, and they have already been caught admitting it. World Socialist rubbish.


    "Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated". – Ottmar Edenhofer, (IPCC)


    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/...-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth”/


    And TONS MORE here:

    Quote by Timoth Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat Senator:.We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”


    Quote by Richard Benedik, former U.S./UN bureaucrat: "A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."


    Quote by John Holdren, President Obama's science czar: “A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States...De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation...Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being."


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    Etc., ad nauseum...
     
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    Of course, the last time the coral reefs died back, 7 billion humans were not relying on the sea food that these reefs foster. And the last time these reefs died back, it was over a longer time period, which allowed new reefs to replace them.

    Other than that - it's exactly the same.


    WTF.
     
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    IOW, it happens with or without humans.

    We have no idea what the longterm geological history of these reefs is, and they have been dying/replenishing for EONS, which is how they have grown to this size.
     
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    What about the arctic states being a flashpoint showing the most dramatic effects being the sole point of the presidents visit do you not get?

    Oh... and yes... the ice breakers are being ramped up because the thinning ice means they can open more channels up with them. It does actually support the temperature rise... the cause of the oceanic temp rise there is because of a different cyclical thing whose name escapes me at the moment according to the Alaskan institute...
     

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