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The European / Syrian Refugee crisis

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Molly David, Sep 3, 2015.

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  1. MrNick

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    They are indeed radical.... They watch on as peoples heads get cut.... That (*)(*)(*)(*) is normal to them....

    They tolerate people being murdered or beat in the name of the Koran (any way you want to spell that).... Most have an issue with classical liberalism.....
     
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  2. MrNick

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    His crazy ideas were clearly the result of him hating the west and "progressive" ideas...

    I have read his work..... It kinda boggles the mind....
     
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    I don't see how his ideas were crazy, and as I argued, he had legitimate reasons for "hating" the West.
     
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  4. MrNick

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    You ever read his work? the guy was a nut... I remember in one of his books (I have read several) where he tries to argue the virtues of freedom while condemning woman at the same time as whores that need to be covered at all times and such....

    The guy continually contradicted himself.... In his world only pure Muslim men were entitled to classical liberalism and the rest of the global community were basically second class citizens...

    Of course he didn't like Israel - nor did he like the US government - but he hated our culture more.... He believed US (or Western Culture) was responsible for everything he hated including Israel and the US military....

    He thought chicks not wearing bras was responsible for war...
     
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    Yes, I have read his work. His views steadily evolved, so that is one reason why they may seem to contradict each other.

    I don't remember him calling women whores. Since you are not Muslim, you will obviously not be comfortable with a lot of his beliefs, the same way I'm not comfortable with Western beliefs.
     
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  6. MrNick

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    He basically called woman whores.....

    The guy was a retard that contradicted everything...

    Basically only conservative Muslim men and conservative Muslim woman had any rights in his mad brain.... Oh and that loose western cutlure was the real war....

    Why the (*)(*)(*)(*) you think he was jailed? - because if it was up to him he would be a Hitler or an ISIS....

    Either way I can assure you ISIS members are probably fond of the guy.
     
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    He was jailed because he politically opposed the president of Egypt at the time.

    As to ISIS, Qutb never called for the killing of innocents, and I assure you he would not condone their actions.
     
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    So don't let it happen...It was like letting the losers in a war set the terms of the peace.
     
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  9. cupid dave

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    So you believe feminism is just fine, and all the fatherless kids today getting abused in everyway is alright then?

    Feminism supports sexual promiscuity and brands itself outside of the society based upon the lunacy of saying "a woman's body is her own."
    By this she means society can say nothing about her sexual mores and behavior, and must ignore when she, alone, decides on sex, or abortion, or marriage.
    That cancels out a number of the institutions that a society needs in order to survive.
     
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    Bush had already set the terms...........

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    Not all feminists are promiscuous... That's sick.
     
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  11. cupid dave

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    Cheney was right, that the Middle East is way better now for America.
    What we are seeing is that the two sides in the ME have been let go.

    They are now going against one another.
    Nothing could be better for a weak and immoral West especially as far away as America than this:

    Whether you like the biblical expression used here or not, it us all true:

    Rev. 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal (of the Scriptures), I heard the voice of the fourth beast ([Ez 1:10], i.e.; sociologically speaking, the academic, educated, Integrated Group) say, Come and see.

    Rev. 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse (OF FOREIGN COLONIALISM, FOLLOWED BY INDEPENDENCE AND STAGNATION): and his name, (ISLAMIC SHARIA), that sat on him, (BACKWARDNESS), was Death, (THEOCRATIC OPPRESSION), and Hell (IN WORLD WIDE TERRORISM) followed with him, (FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM).
    And (RELIGIOUS) power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, (the Western World), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the (FOUR) beasts (i.e.; the chariots of Social Force, the four Social Groups) of the earth.

    PALE HORSE:
    VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict XVI warned Sunday that terrorism, nihilism and "fanatic fundamentalism" threatened world peace, and he called on individuals, governments and institutions to work together to combat them
    He said individuals, international organizations and world powers must take responsibility for promoting justice, solidarity and peace.
     
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  12. cupid dave

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    Feminists are pro-Abortion, pro-Welfare to single mothers, pro-Gays out clearly advertising sexual promiscuity, pro NO Fault Divorce, pro-anti-war on our team, pro-Gay marriage, pro-sexual freedom, and hence even pro-child abuse which goes with this.

    That does not mean they,themselves, do these things.
    They just collectively support them.
     
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    He did?
    He hated the West because they supported the president he opposed.
    Right???

    Is that what you call "Legitimate?"
     
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    Why would that matter in regard to what has happened to wages for a working person to stay so low?
     
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    Turkey Officials Confirm Pact With Saudi Arabia To Help Rebels Fighting Syria's Assad
    Saudi edges Qatar to control Syrian rebel support
    U.S. allies in Middle East ramping up support for rebel forces in Syria
    Syria crisis: Saudi Arabia to spend millions to train new rebel force
    Turkey and Saudi Arabia alarm the West by backing Islamist extremists the Americans had bombed in Syria
    British troops head to Saudi Arabia to train Syrian rebels
    Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar to host Syrian rebel training

    International agencies, journalists, and human rights organizations have a detailed record of Saudi Arabia's brutal, regressive monarchy, and for them to crusade against the very thing they are guilty of is the height of hypocrisy and absurdity.

    Regardless, he was better than the Islamic terrorists who have replaced him. The western removal of Gaddafi was and still is a disastrous boondoggle.
     
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    I'm on my own side. I don't let politicians tell me who my enemies are, unlike some people.

    And, no, Syria was never an enemy to America as a country. Just because SOME people living there may have been does not mean the entire country is a threat.

    Funny. None of that happened in America.

    Israel is not America, in case you were unaware, and neither is Lebanon.

    But if they weren't an enemy before, they sure are now, thanks to the myopic, aggressive foreign policy of people such as yourself.
     
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    No, just the excuses to go there on information based on lies. Which is just as bad as any radical.
     
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    When there is overwhelming evidence he lied his way into Iraq, who do you think we are going to blame?

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    The Hispanic babies that we are responsible for; http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/

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    We have no one else to blame but ourselves; http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/
     
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    Sure it does. It just proves we are no better than this camerawoman who was kicking around these refugees at a time of desperation just to survive; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJ4JfWgpI0 The U.S. is that woman. We started the entire ME debacle when we went to war with Iraq. That scenario with that piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) woman, would have never happened, if it hadn't been for us.

    I have to believe that one day we can prove, that we can become better than this. It is my hope.
     
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    We didnt go to war with Syria. Even if we had, it doesnt mean we're responsible for taking in their people. Heck, we've become too soft. I wouldnt even send a dime to rebuild after a War. If something goes to that extreme where War is all thats left...well the loser can pick up their own pieces IMO. Thats war for ya.
     
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