One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties,

I don't believe you. Weren't those people murdered after we left Vietnam? Sounds familiar doesn't it?

 

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So he never invaded Kuwait? Or we should just stay out of other's invasions? What is your position? Dozens of UN resolutions against Saddam didn't happen?

 

So now Saddam + Gaddafi = order? Nice worldview.

 

You don't believe me? Of course not-after all saintly America could never support such a vile regime...

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/politics/2014/04/how-thatcher-gave-pol-pot-hand

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Dozens of Resolutions happen against Israel too. America vetoes every single one.

 

Bombing without permission and causing casualties! Well, that's OK then.

I hear plenty of chat about Hamas hiding in hospitals and using ambulances and usually not regarded as an excuse... last I heard (may have been updated) was that the hospital was also being used for hiding.

 

Yeah we did that whole "leave the world to its own business"...twice, and the world went to crap. If we withdraw from the world again, before a strong intl body is assembled to keep the peace, the same thing will happen: free for all. Good luck with that.

 

Im not talking about vetoed resolutions. Im talking about passed resolutions against Saddam, which means both Russia and China signed off on them as they both also have veto power. Were they wrong not to veto the Saddam resolutions?

 

Yes, they believed the same lies that you were told. Saddam was no threat to America, Europe (the 45 minute missile thing) and, vile though he was, at least led a stable and economically-sound nation which America and the 'Coalition of the Willing' roflol, then bombed into the stone age creating a vacuum waiting to be filled by the bastards now wandering around the Middle East butchering anyone in their way. The West created our own enemy in the same way as we did with Iran in 1953.
The logic is devastatingly simple; create an enemy, convince public opinion that they are a threat to world peace and thus allow yourself the opportunity to fight them while extending your "interests".

 

Over a decade of us at war in the age of smart phones and cameras, and you have one video of possible civilians being killed from wiki leaks. That was a massive leak of files. You would think there would be dozens of vids showing those gleeful grunts (like the Ukraine vids we are seeing after only 2 years of that conflict). I don't believe you. There should be much more footag of gleeful US grunts after over a decade of 2 major wars. We have more footage of Nazi war crimes, at a time when almost no one owned a vid camera.

 

US killed millions of people over the last 15 years. Another one American with a head stuffed the idiotic propaganda.
[video=youtube;GeZ3nCXyb_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeZ3nCXyb_Q[/video]

 

I posted the links to these figures two days ago. Would you like me to post them again? Or you could do your own research? Or better still rely on your uninformed opinions as they obviously must be right, right?

Oh! lucky us world citizens to have the big bad-assed apple-pie America to protect us by shedding our own blood by the bucket loads -- and making a spectacular profit in the process.

Praise be to America!

And pass the steel helmets, flak jackets, tourniquets and body bags...

 

The evidence speaks for itself don't you think?

 

Yes, you disbelieved the Pol Pot story too. Do you also disbelieve Operation Ajax happened, that you overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran in pursuit of your "interests"-oil, in Iran's case-all the time proclaiming the wonders of 'democracy and freedom'?
The Nazis filmed their own war crimes. They were obsessed with meticulous record-keeping.
I'm sorry if America's 'indiscretions' make for uncomfortable reading. You better get used to it; I have a lot-you just have to ask.

 

But he had recently announced that he would no longer sell Iraqi oil in exchange for US dollars but only for Euro's in the future.

Hang him!

 

US is the only country in the world whose citizens are tightly packed blunt propoganda.

 

The vacuum was created by our withdrawal and failure to rebuild that country. That failure was the result of a worldview like yours which indicated to the innocent Iraqis and savages alike that soon the US would leave, and it was only a waiting game. We should have stayed and completed the mission. Now we are seeing the beginnings of the exodus of those 79% of Iraqis who went to vote despite threats and actual violence against them for doing so (btw surpassing voter turnout of almost all modern democracies).

 

Indeed! And it was Iran's barefaced cheek in wanting to nationalise their own oil industry which has led to the West's animosity toward her now. I mean, how dare they assume they can do what they want with their own resources! "Our oil under their soil".

 

If you hadn't invaded for no apparent reason there would be no need for rebuilding! Am I the only one who understands basic logic?

 

Pretending to have nukes when you don't is a dangerous game. Committing the biggest fraud in history by corrupting the Oil for Food program is not wise either. Neither is radar locking aircraft supporting a UN authorized (yes by Russia and China too) no-fly zone. Neither is amassing your troops on the border of a country that the UN already kicked you out of once.

 

Americans believe in any nonsense that tells them the government.
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Ive went through this so many times here. There were plenty of reasons. WMD was only one. Im sure there were dozens of reasons to declare war on Germany in 1941 too. If FDR was wrong about one of those reasons, then he was wrong in attacking Germany? I think not.

 

This is war. The victims are inevitable.

 

You attacked Germany because the Nazi regime declared war on America first, a few days after Pearl Harbor. Before that you were squatting on the fence. That was a genuine reason for going to war-self defense. Of course you could have just sat back and allowed Germany to continue sinking your ships...
There were no WMD in Iraq and Bush made absolutely certain that Hans Blix and the UN weapons inspectorate were withdrawn before America was embarrassed by them confirming the same, thus removing any scant 'justification' for the invasion. These are facts that you don't get told. I have Hans Blix's own testimony if this is something else you don't believe.

 

I do believe we were dealing with a dangerous ideology that when institutionalized, inevitably led to totalitarianism, millions dead, and open opposition to the US in every possible situation or policy: communism. So you propose the US sit there in the face of that?