Christian Bakers Who Lost their Business after Homosexual Attack Refuse to Pay $135K

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  1. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    No.

    You editing your comments to save face while I was already typing my response is not my concern.

    As long as you are trying to actually inform yourself of this case... that's all that matters.



    Too bad you can't go back an edit all of them eh.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    There was nothing planned.
     
  3. Sally Vater

    Sally Vater Banned

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    LOL. It most definitely was planned. There has been an epidemic of these cases.
     
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    Object227 Well-Known Member

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    I understand. You have made a valid point.
     
  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why the lawsuit?

    About 10 years ago my wife and I went to a high end stereo store because I was interested in a pair of $30,000 speakers. Once inside the store my wife and I split up, she went to the section with the CDs and I went to where the speakers were. My wife overheard two salesmen talking about not wanting to help me because it didn't look like I had "real money." She told me what they said and I took my business someplace else, which is much more difficult than finding a bakery because high end stereo stores aren't on every corner and they don't carry the same manufacturers. Now was I subjected to discrimination? Yes. But did I suffer all the ailments these two ladies did? No. Did I run out and look for a lawyer? No.

    And I know you're going to say I'm not in a protected class like that somehow is supposed to make me feel better.
     
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    Yes, everyone is attacking the poor Christians for their beliefs - oh wait, no, that would be for their actions of discrimination. Religion has been used as a means to discriminate in every civil rights issue we have ever faced - not the belief itself but the action undertaken.
    And these types of Christians give true Christians everywhere a bad name.
     
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    You want to check on that?

    There is no mention of sexual orientation in Title VII.

    Now a few tyrants on the EOO "concluded" that it protects gays even though no actual legal law confirms this.

    So basically once the administration turns over and these members are fired ...the real law will either need to be updated or obeyed as it currently stands.

    True but is it not within the spirit of the law?

    If we're able to include gays in then why not cops?

    People are being excluded because of what they are.

    So will you two support ending all forms of discrimination?

    Or will you just support the kinds you prefer.

    I want an answer from both of you please and thank you.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Maybe it's the Hillary Clinton in her.
    Or maybe because she shares his beliefs.
    Or maybe because she will support her husband's choices.
    Or maybe she just didn't care either way since losing one customer meant nothing for their financial life.

    You think the wife reported to her husband about some off the cuff comment she made saying "come back for your wedding too!" ?

    Who knows, but I'm not really concerned with their marital relationship and who knows what about whom.

    I'm just pointing out some facts we all knew... after watching someone here argue against them for half the day.
     
  9. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone is discriminated against at some point in their lives, maybe even daily, so these lesbians need to man up and grow a pair. And that Oregon's legal system seems to think these lesbians are unable to cope with having their feelings hurt for a short period of time just goes to show you how little they think of lesbians and their ability to deal with rejection or every day life.
     
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    I think 135K is outrageous.
    But to read the article, completely biased, one can not make a decision based on that article. At least not an unbiased decision.
     
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    We've gone through this before.

    The Greensboro Woolworth's store was very clear about who they would and would not serve at their lunch counter.

    And, there were were plenty of people who "particularly do not care about places discriminating".
     
  12. Sally Vater

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    Whatever. It's still government tyranny.
     
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    In other words, it pays to be a total (*)(*)(*)(*)ing LOSER.

    [​IMG]

    "You hurt my pweshus widdul feewings and it's your fault that I can't cope because I have no self-esteem. Gimme $60,000, mother(*)(*)(*)(*)er."
     
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    How the **** did I know you were typing a response? You usually throw out a bunch of unsubstantiated garbage, then when called on it, ignore.

    You posted those two websites and within a fast moving thread, I clicked on both links, and it appeared to be older articles. My response was just a few minutes after you posted that.

    I then went back and dug a little deeper, to the other link at Slate and the new interview, and saw I was wrong. I said thank you a full three minutes before you went into your ugly tirade.
     
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    When one defies the court the penalties do tend to go up.
     
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    Except there was no cake being asked to be made that said something offensive about christianity. The cake in question didn't bring christianity into the equation.
    False, fail on your part.
     
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    Because Equal Protection law only applies to select classifications of people. Cops havent been selected in any state while homosexuals have been selected in about 21 stats.
     
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    Lefty whining? This thread was created by a conservative and most of the whining and ear plugging here seems to also be coming from the right. The left whines about more than its fare share of issues but you don't really have a point here.

    Gay issues tend to bring out the fanitical right for some reason, I know they try to make it religion based but it seems intellectually dishonest as this amount of protest is not seen against over sins that were much more prominent in the Bible.
     
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    No way that is just.
     
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    Very good questions, but there will be no reasonable answers.
     
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    What???? Mention something even slightly negative about gays and the left will shut down your business, get you fired and black balled, issue death threats, and sue you. The phrases gaystapo and gay mafia exist for a reason.
     
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    For years. And yes, some in this thread. I shut one of them up.


    If you had said "some" gay issues, I would agree.

    But yea, there is too much focus on gays from the Christians. I am one but my Bible says all sin is equal.
    The problem for me is not gays or their weddings.... but when they go after businesses.

    Still...
    Just make the stupid cake and be a representative of Christ.... not a bad impression of him.
     
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    Yeah, they should just shut up and sit in the back of the bus. Hell, they should be thankful they get to even be on the bus.

    Hell, had these ladies been carrying a firearm and were denied because they were carrying, the right would be losing their minds to support their second amendment right. Their 14th amendment rights don't mean anything. I'm starting to think that to be a republican you have to stop reading after the 2nd amendment.

    I've been hearing for the last 8 years how the left is "stepping on the constitution", and now that they uphold it they are wrong again. amazing
     
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    According to Christian laws homosexuality is something abnormal and a violation of moral norms.

    BTW, would somebody demand from a Jewish baker to bake a cake with a swastika on it?
     
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    Nope and that has nothing to do with what occurred here. It wasn't s cake depicting gay sex. They would have s right to refuse that.

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    I will pay their fine if they can show me where the bible says you can't make a cake for a gay person.
     
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