NRA Commentary Admits The Odds Of Needing A Gun To Defend Yourself Are Infinitesimal

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    We had hardly any guns to take in the first place so the amnesty wasn't in the least traumatic and certainly didn't lead to the sort of collective hysteria Americans show whenever any mention of strengthening gun legislation is mentioned. Nobody but a few competition shooters complained; the vast majority of us welcomed the ban and still do.

    Regarding your point about murder rates: http://blog.skepticallibertarian.co...e-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    Or how to start a Civil War...................
     
  3. Bondo

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    Ayuh,... The word soup to say nothin' debate tactic,....

    Same as reliever in the gun control forum,....

    I have several fire extinguishers, 'n many guns myself,....

    As noted, be prepared, rather than a victim,....

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    Ayuh,.... It might be worth it to crush the progressives,....
     
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    Or how to win freedom..............
     
  5. 10A

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    Your mistake is you assume there would be only one person defending freedom from a tyrannical government. I assure you if it came down to that (hopefully we never see that day), there would be millions. Not only that, if it was the Federal Government, the State could invoke their own militia laws and have their own organized forces.
     
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    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    It would be a short war. Real short
     
  7. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Are you incapable of understanding that banning all firearms except for one type is like banning all political parties except for one party?
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Your next civil war is not going to be like your last - witness Syria

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    Nooooo - that is like comparing apples to rump steaks

    No point of commonality
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    You hope

    How many thought they would be joined by others? Dylan Roof did to name just one. HE thought he was starting a civil war

    Where is the organisation for this to happen?

    What is likely to happen is that when civil disorder erupts then the opportunists - the ones currently gun hoarding are the ones who will be the next ISIS because you can bet that no matter how big the hoard of a Doomsday Prepper is there is at least one cashed up insurgent group who would be delighted to take advantage of civil unrest in America
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't accomplished one thing you just said.
     
  11. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. they don't call your master a Queen for nothing.
    2.If my government "turns on me" I have the ability to destroy their munitions factories because they are all HERE.
    3. We have the ability to modify the government. There have been examples of this very thing.
    Look up the Battle of Athens:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29
     
  12. Bowerbird

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    ??????????????

    You DO know don't you that the main reason why the Brits keep the Monarchy is that it garners all that lovely tourist money from the Americans.......
    I have said it before and will again - when the opposition is down to dealing Ad Homs - you have won :D

    With????

    I mean the phrase that comes to mind is 'Do not start an arse kicking competition with a Porcupine' - especially if you are bare footed

    Pauses for mental image - lone gun man (and there is no assurance that anyone else would be with you) with all the guns and ammo he/she could carry approaching a AMMUNITIONS FACTORY!!
    Yep some citizens against a LOCAL government - sure!!!!

    Get back to me when the social experiment is over
     
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    I would rather have my gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    But is it not infinitely preferable to not have it and not need it.............

    Must be a complete pain in the arse to have to carry a gun 24/7 knowing that the minute you put it down might be the very moment you need it in your hand..............
     
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    Ayuh,.... You can see the future now, eh,..?? Right,... Got it,....

    Yer scenario of a civil war is but one of infinite possibilities,......
     
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    Not a pain at all. In fact its sometimes comforting to know its there.
    No different than keeping fire extinguishers in my cars and home. Or remember to lock the front door when I go to work.
     
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    What a joke. The Brits all want to be Royals. It's why they keep buying peerage.

    What makes you think I have to do a frontal assault?
    Just like a lib.
    You can't think outside the box. Without your handlers telling you what to say, you fall on your face.



    You obviously don't like people to have their freedom.
     
  18. CRUE CAB

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    You are right, it will be total war with other nations looking to come in for a piece of the pie.
    Our next civil war will end the US totally.
     
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    Having a firearm gives one the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones. Yes the chances of success may be slim but a slim chance is infinitely better than NO chance.
     
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    Chuckle...
    What will our next civil war be like?
     
  21. Bowerbird

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    Not hard to predict - where there are lots of guns civil war has degenerated into war
     
  22. Bowerbird

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    And yet more mass shootings have been stopped by unarmed civilians than armed civilians. Again I will re-iterate that the American mindset of gun = defence also engenders a belief that no gun = defenceless and nothing could be further from the truth

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    You tell me. Obviously many gun owners have an idea that it will be jus waving a gun around
     
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    You said:

    Your next civil war is not going to be like your last - witness Syria

    This means you must have some idea as to what you think they next US civil war will be like.
    Well?
     
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    Nonsense. But we can both have it our way. You stay where you are and I'll stay where I am. You mind your Aussi business and keep your nose out of ours.
     
  25. Bowerbird

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    Well your last civil war was a while ago - doubt if they had the weaponry, mass communication, social media, knowledge base that we have today

    Mind you they did have dysentery
     

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