NRA Commentary Admits The Odds Of Needing A Gun To Defend Yourself Are Infinitesimal

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    All of X may be banned less one and it is not a violation of your rights.

    It is very much comparable. So if you are not going to address the question, why bother replying?
     
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    My Sheriff John Urquhart disagrees, from a message he sent out today “Now is the time! With all that is going on in the world, it is more important than ever to have the means to protect your family, the public, and yourself.”
     
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    In other words, you really have no idea what our next civil war will be like.
     
  4. theferret

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    Yep, and since we've done that dance on this thread, the chronology of the posts shows that to date YOU CANNOT LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY DEFEND NOIR'S IMPLYING THAT A GUN WILL BE DENIED TO A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN SHOULD THEY WANT ONE FOR DEFENSE.

    I and others have pointed out Noir's folly...you can continue your insipidly stubborn repetition of debunked and deconstructed dodges, moot points and "explanations". Unless you've got something new to add, I'd say we're done here.
     
  5. theferret

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    Prove it beyond your opinion. I'll wait.
     
  6. theferret

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3 I asked you directly to prove your case using references to the article. You can't or won't, MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  7. ShadowX

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    Just thought I'd point out that the militia when this was written was made up of all able bodied citizens between 18-50.

    But the point id like to make is that these people were expected to provide their OWN firearms and know how to shoot them. That means that you cannot disarm the people without disarming the militia. It's an impossibility. Therefore to claim the 2nd doesn't protect the people is absurd.
     
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    Explain the thousands of years before guns.

    Explain Rawanda.

    Shhh... Stop being ignorant.
     
  9. TOG 6

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    So?
    How does that affect anything I say or said?

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    Says he who offers no meaningful response and then runs away.
    :lol:
     
  10. sec

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    outdoor gun range was busy today. It's encouraging to see more people of all ages being taught at the range. It sure looks like more people realize what's going on and are protecting themselves and learnign how to shoot.

    Stock up on ammo
     
  11. Korben

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    Ahh a busy range, the sound and smell of freedom.
     
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    My chances of getting into an accident tomorrow are tiny but i'm still going to wear my seatbelt.
     
  13. Bowerbird

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    I did address the question - I pointed out it was nonsense

    What if they banned all yellow mini-skirts - would that be the same as banning guns?

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    And yet there are still those who claim seat belts increase your risk of fatality............
     
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    Mini skirts & seat belts aren't named in the Constitution.
     
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    Are mini skirts specifically and Constitutionally protected?

    Cut the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and address the point.
     
  16. Ziplok

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    I've never saw a gun make a conscious effort to kill another human being.....unless in the hands of a criminal.
     
  17. Bowerbird

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    Really? So what you do not see does not exist??

    There are no accidental deaths?

    Collateral damage are simply unrelated words?
    http://physiciansnews.com/2014/01/23/guns-at-home-increase-risk-of-death/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/25/death-child-unintentional-shooting/11324717/
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Wait all you want. I'm not going to dignify your tripe.
     
  20. Ziplok

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    Way to twist words. Allow me to elaborate. I've have never heard of a gun hopping up and killing someone under it's own power. I've had a shotgun that's Sat in the corner if the bedroom for years, it has never jumped up all by itself and threatened someone.
     
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    CAN YOU PROVE THAT!

    Adam Jentleson @AJentleson If there are KNOWN TERRORISTS!! walking around, maybe you should arrest them!

    FACT: Today, a KNOWN TERRORIST can legally purchase an assault rifle in the United States. Republicans and the NRA want to keep it that way.

    https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/with_replies
     
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    This whole thread is nothing but anti second amendment propaganda. The second amendment grants Americans the right to own common use fire arms for protection against tyranny. Not to be in a militia, not for hunting or sports, it's for the day when the government oversteps its boundaries and we have to March on dc and drag them out of their offices and execute them. That is what the second amendment is for. To prevent tyranny. The second amendment acknowledges a natural individual right and to try and spin it otherwise is down right treason. All you foreigners out here trying to convince Americans gun ownership is wrong can go pound sand. This is our country and we will defend to the last and that means the second amendment as well. Want our guns? Molon laabe.
     
  23. Bowerbird

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    I was treating a hoary old meaningless meme with the contempt it deserves

    http://www.armedwithreason.com/debunking-the-guns-dont-kill-people-people-kill-people-myth/

    What a load of..................
     
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  25. Bowerbird

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    Really? Have counter facts?? Or are you going to try and tell me that because some of these are suicides they are not really deaths
     

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