If a person is bisexual why would they choose to identify as gay?

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I'm bisexual and on public forums like this, there is never such a thing called a productive and rational discussion. All's more the pity

 

In honesty, as a gay man, I get quickly connected to bisexual males and females because they ignore the sexuality questions more often and look to the deeper meanings of love and life.

 

Yes, I can understand that fear. And it was one I do have to deal with. My partner is male and though he doesn't understand how I could be attracted to other women. We have built trust. I was always honest with him.

 

Maybe because the person they LOVE is of the same sex at the time they are asked to identify? Maybe because the gay community is more open to bisexual life style than the heterosexual one?

Who cares? Not ALL bisexual people identify as gay. . .in fact, I believe that there are a lot more bisexual people or potential bisexual people than those who admit they are. . .simply because it is still many time a status that is shamed by the most bigots in society!

 

Never understood the need of gays to constantly remind people they're gay.

 

Why not? That is a big part of their identity. . .and it must be such a relieve not to have to HIDE their true identity anymore!

If I were gay, I would be proud of it, simply because of the courage it takes (especially faced with all the negativity and bigotry) to accept my sexual identity, and to be part of a community that still needs support to counteract the negative stereotypes that are only very slowly dying in the face of REALITY.

 

That makes no sense.
Can't claim one is born that way, then be "proud" of the achievement and "courage" in being that way.


I take pride in things I've done, and how well I've done them.... not for things I have no choice in.

 

I'm confused. I thought gays believed that homosexuality was something you are born with, yet it seems this so called "orientation" is not 100%. I will just stick with the reality that it is a choice.

 

It's typically to make it clear that they are willing to fight for and support their views/rights. And considering human nature... that is exceedingly important to do.

 

Wow. It's as though you haven't read, learned and thought about the social dynamics of things at all.

No one here should bother explaining it further to you. You can learn and understand, if you WANT to.

Otherwise, gay people SHOULD continue to make it clear who they are and to FIGHT for the rights they deserve as human beings.

 

I think you are "confused", because instead of accepting reality... you are frustrated by people who repeatedly point out that your view is skewed overall.

 

About homosexual things? Well, yeah.... you got me there.
I don't really spend much time reading and learning about things that don't matter to me.

I'll be honest... I have spent even less time reading about the effects cocaine has on the sex lives of Quail.
So don't challenge me on that one, eh.

I didn't ask anyone to.
There was no question, only a statement.
You live to be riled then threaten to refuse to do something no one asked you to do in the first place.



Being proud of something you had no choice in makes no sense.

Again.... no question mark.

 

No, reality is the biological functions of male female parts.

 

You view is very limited. I can see that.

 

Well, I'd study and learn more if I were you. I can surely tell you, the average gay person isn't sitting around waiting for things to be defined for them. They tend to learn about what they are dealing with in this reality.

 

What you are saying is kind of strange. . .
If one cannot be proud for what they are because they are born that way. . .one can not be made to be ashamed either. . .and yet that has been the big push for centuries by the heterosexual bigots.

By the way. . .the "pride" comes from finally realizing that there is NO REASON to be ashamed, even after society has tried to make you ashamed for not having been born "heterosexual!"

There is also pride in the great courage it takes to ACCEPT one's difference and to embrace it, and to come out in spite of the negativity (and sometimes the aggression) of others. . . It is so much easier to coward and try to "fit in" and be what your family, friends, boss, church, teachers.

Heterosexuals do not have those hard decisions to make. . .they don't have to expose their most intimate desire. . .they are considered "normal," even if they are completely asses with their partner/ wife.

I believe gay people who had the courage to come out and BE who they are in spite of the push back of society have EVERY RIGHT and every reason to be proud. They DID have a choice: to come out or to hide (as so many still are doing. . .) and if they do hide, how many people do their life long lie affect? And how long can they hide?

How many politicians have been caught in that lie. . .because they had made the choice to keep hiding their true sexuality. . .but were still PRACTICING homosexuality while (sometime at least) being among the most vocal and the most nasty homophobes and bigots in Politics. . .church, etc. . .

This article is quite interesting and certainly demonstrate that, even if being gay is not a choice. . .COMING OUT as being gay most certainly is an extremely difficult choice. . .and NOT ONLY for Politicians!

 

About homosexuals? Why?

Of course. They're defining it every time they post, by pointing out their homosexuality.

As I already pointed out.

 

It would be helpful to those you are speaking to, when you opine about the same.

That 'lack' of education is showing again; I have to remember it's fruitless to go on about any of this with you. You seem to purposefully remaining ignorant on the issue. So, it's just prudent to tell you that you're wrong or that your views should be taken tentatively on the issue.

All you're pointing out, is that you really don't know anything substantial about human sexuality. You have your views but much of those don't truly make good sense.

 

Oh.
Not really my concern.



Seems if that's a problem for them, I should be easy enough to ignore.

Well... for some.

 

Why even comment on a subject that you have absolutely no interest into? Why make NEGATIVE comments if you don't care at all?

I can totally agree that you and I have no reason to be proud of being heterosexual. . .it is what is "expected" and fully accepted by the whole world. . .

It is very different for people who have to FIGHT, not only their own inner "learned" shame, but also the bigotry and rejection of others.

Have a good day!

 

I regret you see things that way. I do hope for better in your case, someday.

Regards.

 

Of course, you have it right.

And again, those who intend to not know or understand things other than "heterosexuality", will not. All that can be done is to encourage, assist and equip LGBT people in fighting for and maintaining their rights as human beings.

 

I doubt I'm alone in this.
I have an opinion on a topic, which you don't like... so you say I should go "read", "study" and "learn"... or now, that I get "better".... until my opinion is aligned with yours.

All I said was I find it silly for people to argue relentlessly that this lifestyle is not a choice, but inbred.... then for someone to come in like a grandmother and claim you should all be so "proud" of that non-choice you didn't make.

I don't need you to agree, nor do I need to "study" your lifestyle.
I simply find the claim silly, and there's no changing that.

 

That is a positive thing. Both parties go in knowing what to expect..... I am naturally ingrained with trust issues though. It can happen.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3
This is NOT what grandmother said. . .She said that gay people who had the courage to come out in spite of the gay bashing and all the difficulties (sometimes even being as an outcast by their own family) have reason to be proud to have made the courageous choice to be true to themselves AND to others.

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