If a person is bisexual why would they choose to identify as gay?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    How does this 'genetic disorder' get sorted out?
    Can it be sorted out?
    Why must it be sorted out?
    I lump them together because they are offshoots of the definite line you try and draw between male/female. No such hard line exists. There are various versions of gray between 100% male and 100% female. Whatever that would possibly mean. For there varies amongst males differing forms of masculinity and various form of femininity among females.
    So I don't see how one can make any distinct line. Period.
     
  2. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears they can have surgery or just identify themselves as either. They do not constitute that homosexuality is a legitimate sexual preference when they are clearly plumbed as either male or female.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    We all know this. So why did you even ask that dumb question in the first place?


    That wasn't your question, this was:


    As for the relevance of your new question.... there is none.

    We were talking about Bruce Jenner.
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Because I'm conversing with you?
    And it very clearly states in my post.
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Who can have surgery? Gay people?
    Surgery to accomplish what?
    Plumbing is only one part of the equation. You conveniently ignored how there are various levels of masculinity and femininity. That will include the separation of what is male and female. There is no hard drawn line.

    Can you prove there is a hard drawn line? What is it?
     
  6. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hermaphrodites, which have a clear plumbing issue. Our sexual parts are not that confusing. You are wishing to interject some unknown genetics in all humans as clouding our natural state of either. I'm not buying it, you prove it.
     
  7. dairyair

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    I have proved it. You just keep ignoring. Or at least gave some inclination that all is not cut and dried. Varying forms of masculinity and femininity. Ignore some more if you wish.
    Have a nice day.
    The fact hermaphrodites exist, proves all is not cut and dried in the world of defining sexes.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Correct.
    You asked a question for no reason at all, as I never said I don't know what to call them.
    You were just trolling me in post after post, and the best you could come up with is challenging me on labeling someone who had a sex change. Which wasn't even part of the discussion.

    As for what I call Bruce.... it's "murderous kook".
     
  9. maat

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    You've proved nothing. You are attempting to claim our species is not 100% either way based on a few physical disorders that are verifiable. If you or I have all the sexual parts of one sex or the other and no parts of the other, you or I are that sex, period. You do not get to claim otherwise without proof.
     
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    Why does it matter what gender someone claims to be? Is it harming you in any way?
     
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    No, that just shows how it is not that clear cut.

    And, sexuality involves internal body parts, which also have variety.

    Most of the time, internal and external morphology lines up in a particular way, but deciding to hate those for whom that is not the case is inexcusable.
     
  12. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did I say I hated homosexuals? Typical liberal false accusation. Grow up.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't care what anyone claims. They can claim to be Martians, does not mean we accept their choice as heathy human behavior.
     
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    I stated that the biological facts defeat any justification for hating gays.

    Sorry if you didn't understand my post, but I stand behind what I said.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, you suggesting that disagreeing with homosexuality as a viable human trait as hatred. You are falsely labeling those who disagree with the lifestyle.
     
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    No, I'm pointing out that we are not talking about a lifestyle at all. We are talking about actual physiological differences over which an individual has no more choice than they have in the external genitalia they happen to have. It's clear that there is a wide variety, however rare.

    Perhaps more to your point, I really don't care whether you or anyone else "disagree".

    Hate comes in, because it is an extreme and illogical reaction that is expressed by treating people as second class human beings.

    Again, I hope you don't have (or at least don't act on) that emotion.
     
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    My children made bad choices from time to time, did not ever make me hate them. Throwing around the word hate makes you less viable and intelligent.
     
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    Kind of like those that claim they talk to God, like some of the candidates for President have claimed.
     
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    You're children had no power to treat you like the LGBTQ has been treated.

    That's a nonsense comparison.

    And, I totally stand behind the point that the treatment they have received is hate based. There isn't some other description.

    Again, I don't care about your inner feelings - I'm talking about behavior.
     
  19. dairyair

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    What is proof to you? The fact that there are those that say that is their identity and you basically will tell them they are not as they say they are? You acting as God?
    Why do you get to tell people what they should be because of some plumbing?

    BTW - I am not attempting to claim anything, I am making the claim. There is no clear cut distinction between male/female. Humans themselves have proven it. Your willful ignorance is on you.
     
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    The discussion is about sexuality. I acknowledge my perspective may be different based on my sexuality. If you are battered by people discussing sexuality, get the hell out of the sexuality forum. Wtf else would we be discussing here?
     
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    The courage is no longer hiding it. It is a choice not to hide it.
     
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    Everybody has difficulty trusting others. If you didn't, you would constantly be walked on. Trust is earned. And it never really stops being earned. You have to prove yourself trustworthy to be worthy of trust, right?
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion.
     
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    They still exist regardless of sexual orientation.
     
  25. dairyair

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    You have a few posts where you whined about people talking about their sexuality. You claimed you are not here to learn anything.
    Why are you posting in a gay/lesbian forum and thread then? Not to learn, but just complain?
    That is trolling.
     

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