Why is it so hard to calculate the Earths age?

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  1. Chronocide Fiend

    Chronocide Fiend Active Member

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    Do you know I don't know it's true? Maybe I know everything. Unlikely, but possible, no?
     
  2. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Uhhhh...yeah.

    There is plenty of proof for that.

    Light travels at 186,282 miles per second.

    The edge of our Universe exists a bit further than 13 Billion light years distant.

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  3. Lucifer

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    You mean your god is a trickster?!?!

    Oh no!:eekeyes:
     
  4. yguy

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    You betcher sweet bippy I do. :)

    As trollery goes this is pretty retarded.
     
  5. Dayton3

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    Where do you get 6,000 years?

    That figure appears nowhere in the Bible.
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    It doesn't but some very hardcore creationists have calculated that is the amount of time.

    Obviously the Earth is ancient in the extreme.

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  7. garyd

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    That's the most common guess among scientific types and the honest one's will tell you that the number is a good bit less than precise.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Correction obviously the earth appears quite ancient.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    The estimate of 4.54 Billion years is very accurate.

    Neutron decay is not variable in nature.

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  9. a sound mind

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    by that logic u actually can't believe in anything that u perceive - NOTHING
    im ok with that concept if u want to believe in it, but it prevents u from making ANY statement whatsoever
     
  10. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean they didn't understand reality?
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    Aspects of reality such as the Earth being round and not flat....what the Sun and Stars were....and most people thought that the sun traveled across the sky as they had no idea that the Earth revolves on it's axis.

    They did not understand evolution....celestial mechanics, how the Earth and sun were formed....etc.

    They didn't understand things like Virology, Bacteria, Diseases....toxicity...etc.

    So they attributed such things to a GOD or GODS.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would you say would be the beginning at which the earth was the earth--before it cooled, after it cooled, when humans rose, when the first life formed. Was it at the time of the big bang perhaps when the first particles started on their collision course?
     
  13. AboveAlpha

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    The Earth at one time was much smaller than it is now but then it was directly impacted by a Mars sized planet which was absorbed and also created the earths moon.

    This collision super heated the earths core and is the reason why we still have an active EM field that protects the earth from solar and cosmic radiation.

    Mars' core cooled to the point it stopped spinning and the EM field failed allowing that radiation to chemically separate water into Oxygen and Hydrogen gases which were lost to space.

    The one time oceans of water on Mars and the existing oceans on earth are the result of billons of years of cometary bombardment.

    The Big Bang happened over 13 Billion years ago and we know this because we can see to the edge of our FINITE universe.

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  14. truth and justice

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    The Big Bang theory is based on the belief that the speed of light has been constant and unchanging since the "time" of the Big Bang. It would be a bit of a bummer to find out that the speed of light at emission at any point in the universe has been getting slower as time goes by - red shift due to a different c at emission from any non-local galaxy. We can't measure/see the change because of the time frame we exist in, since everything we measure is based on our measurement of the speed of light in our present time frame and location. But we see the effect as red shift. Steady state universe, maybe?
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Ok. Maybe billions of years was beyond them. Maybe 6000 years was 1 billion years. Who knows.
     
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    Do you have any proof the Vogons didn’t do it last Thursday?
     
  17. Battle3

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    That's not proof. If God created a fully working and developed Universe that appears to be far older then he created your condition. Unless you can prove God does not exist, you cannot disprove that 6,000 years ago God did not create a fully functioning apparently 4.5B year old universe.
     
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    but it does have to do with if the bible is true or not
     
  19. Battle3

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    No, it just means God created the universe 6,000 years ago. Its still a working universe in which there are natural rules, science still exists, effects can be measured and repeated.

    If God intruded into every life all the time, then everything would change constantly, rules would be broken - there would really be no rules. But that's not what I am saying.
     
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    They could have. Maybe I am the only thing that exists and all of you are in my dream. Probably only Marvin knows for sure.
     
  21. a sound mind

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    omg, read up a book on logic or something, u are incapable of using it
     
  22. Battle3

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    I don't have to , maybe you should think a little bit. If the all powerful God created a 4.5 Billion year old working universe, how would you know? You can't. Your only option is to prove God does not exist, therefore he did not create an "aged" universe 6,000 years ago.
     
  23. CCitizen

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    The main question is where we will be in another 4.5 Billion Years. Should anyone risk?
     
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    Not now maybe but what about during the early days of the big bang and at what point during the expansion did the rate become standardized?
     
  25. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    I think that is the controversy.
     

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