22 Israelis murdered 180 wounded during the last two months

If the Arabs have problem with where the settlements are built and use the claims that they were built on Arab private lands, they can go to court, present their evidences for their claims and let the judges decide, but since that didnt happen (exapt of only few occasions), then I dont see the problem.

 

O man ... really? Are you living in fairy tale world?

Try to go to court against this here in Israel:

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Isra...-of-West-Bank-land-for-settlements-32025.html

 

And still, if the Arabs have problem with this case like the other settlements by using the claim that those are private Arab lands, then they can go to court, present their evidences for their claims and let the judges decide, but since that didnt happen (exapt of only few occasions), then I dont see the problem.

 

Yes they can go to court ... but this is wasted time, because in Israel is only one law: Law for Jewish part of population! This is the problem ...

Look on how upset Israel became when EU spoke about to demand marks of from where fruits from Israel imprted to EU are coming from etc. to prevent deliveries from these illegal settlements!

Man, ask yourself why Israel law system is not automatically preventing these illegal settlements and kick them directly away when they were installed. That they do nothing against speaks books of truth and realities who is protected by law and government!

 

So there was no one settlement in the West Bank that was evecuated through the years because of Arab demend that it is on private land?

And by boycotting Israeli goods from the settlements, they at the same time hurting and damaging the life and the livelihood of the "Palestinains" who work in the settlements.

 

you have to crack some eggs to make an omelet.

 

This is damaging all of the European will to improve the living standards of the "Palestinains".

 

No ... form time to time they evacuate with force a settlement, but this is not more as an alibi function, particularly when some diplomatic issues are and the other side is blaming Israel about these settlements.

Well ... this is cynical from you now! First the Israelis stole their land with illegal settlement, then they give them a low paid job for harvesting work and then it is declared by you as social commitment for these poor Palestinians and any boycott will hurt only them.

 

It is what it is. If Israel did evecuate settlements when it proven as illegal, then the Arabs can go to fourt and to presetnt their evidences and to win, if they so much certion that it is on private lands. As their fellow Arabs already did, and that Israel eveucated settlements because of such Arabs went to court.

The Israel Labour Court declared that the "Palestinians" that work in the settlements are needed to get paid according to the Israeli law (which means minimum 25 Shekels per hour), and all of the social conditions.

 

Indeed and so the same applies in Palestinians areas. Israelis cannot live in Palestinians land as Israelis just as Arabs are not aquiring Palestinian citizenship living in Israel.

I dont see where we disagree here.

 

accept according to Israeli law, Arabs cannot live on or profit from the lands that they own if they were forced to flee from those lands during the 1948 War. They are Israeli citizens, living in Israel, but they cannot live on their own land.

 

And I replied to that with my last post.

 

Why? there is a "Palestinain" state in the West Bank?

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And after you replied, I already responded to your reply.

 

You already provided a source that you claim is reiforcing what you state here. As I already wrote you:
Not that I not sew in your link (Wiki) a single word where it states that Arabs cant sue, I also came across, in your link, in Article 3 from the Land Acquisition (Validation of Acts and Compensation) Law that stated there, that the owners of an aqquired lands (which means lands that Israel took) are entitled to compensation that will be fixed between the owner of the land and the Development Authority:

Morevoer Article 3 stated that when the aqquired lands were used for agriculture and was the main source of livelihood of its owner, and he has no other land sufficient for his livelihood, such owner is obligated to demand from the Development Authority other property, either for ownership or for lease, which will be partly of full compensation:

As far as I know, the Arabs Absentees didnt demand such things.

 

Here's what I believe as an emphatic supporter of gun rights - if the attack has ceased, you have no right to execute them. That's just murder, nothing more.

Of course, there are situations at the borderline. For instance, are you justified in emptying your magazine into someone who's charging you? The first two rounds probably ended the attack, but it's a difficult situation and you have to give the shooter a reasonable benefit of the doubt if the retaliation was actually justified. But that attacker had been shot several times and was lying motionless on the ground for many seconds before he walked up and summarily executed her. It's no different to walking into an interrogation room and shooting the suspect in the head.

If the police/a citizen catch and subdue someone in the process of carrying out a felony, do you think they should be able to just shoot them in the head? If so, you're more of a danger to gun freedom than any leftist.

 

The UN had a vote on it and hence it's a non UN-member state.
Do take the entire international law in regard and not just 1 line that you like

You're still in contempt about the use of the entire international law, as I stated previously.
Nothing changed. No matter how much you repeat yourself.

 

So are you saying that such state exist? What are the borders of such state?

Always do.

Right, nothing chaned, the rights over that were granted to the Jews in 1922 are still protected and thus the settlements are not illegal.

 

Point still remains that Israel refused Arabs backs who fled for war, just for being Arab.
And that combined with their forced absence got their land thieved away from them,
finalizing the ethnic cleansing of the apartheid state israel.

 

I already replied for such claim in comment #614. Please read: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433636&page=62&p=1065661239#post1065661239

 

Again... you're in contempt of international law, as usual....
The UN had a vote on it. It's a state.
The end.

Direct your questions to the UN.

That is still in contempt of the entire international law, where among things the immigrant Jew has not the right to trash the civil rights of the indigenous people. It came with the line that THIS MUST BE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD. Ethnic cleansing and thieving property is a violation. Hence the verdict has been made,.. settlements are illegal. And you refuse to apply the course of international law when it doesn't suit you.

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Doesn't change the fact that the laws are racist and trashing the UN charter etc, making Israel an apartheid nation that does ethnic cleansing.

 

So what are the borders of such state? Because if we follow the internatioal law, then there is no legal basis for an Arab state in the West Bank. as I already showed you.

Israel provided a chence for the Arabs to get copmpensations, as the international law required. The Arabs didnt take this chence, as I arleady showed you.

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So are you saying that the low forbid that a country will pay compensations to "refugees"?

 

so this means the law bans anyone from compensation who was not a resident or citizen of Israel in 1973 or 1952, which means all Arabs in the West Bank.

 

Israel provided a chence for the Arabs to get copmpensations, as the international law required. The Arabs didnt take this chence, as I arleady showed you.

 

Israeli law doesn't allow Arabs in the West Bank or Gaza to apply for compensation for lost land inside Israel, as I showed you. They must be a resident of Israel in 1952 or 1973 to apply for compensation.

 

You shows my by giving me your source (Wiki) that states that Israel provided a chence for compensations for the Arabs.