Sheriff Arpaio revives birther controversy at Trump rally

None of the Hawaiian officials have certified the ones posted on the internet. And even if they had, they are not unbiased and
they are not CDE's. We've been round and round on this like a hundred times.

 

Not really. I have yet to see any of your claims supported on this charge.

 

"Vetted" by whom ?

Re: the word "vetting." The first time I heard that word used was over forty five years ago around the stables at Santa Anita Park. It's a horse racing term. Never heard it used again except at the races. Now all of a sudden, everyone is being vetted except for Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Obama Secret Service detail and Muslim terrorist who are given visas and Obama green cards.

Vetting comes from vet as in veterinarian.

I've gone through three back ground checks over the years when I was given security clearances and the FBI never used that term vetting.

Is the Obama administration now treating everyone as if they're horses ?

 

It doesn't seem like it, the MSM actually thought that Microsoft Words was around in 1971.

 

I was talking to SFJEFF but you can read the threads if you like. I gave you the name of one in the previous post.

There are others that I have posted but time consuming to find them again.

 

Heh. 80% of Trump supporters are birthers or birther-sympathetic (in that 20% of that % aren't sure if he was born in the US. The remaining? Nope. Not born in the US. lolol)

Ya gotta be pretty stupid in the head to figure....well, I like the way Gibbs put it:

"A pregnant woman leaves her home to go overseas to have a child – who there’s not a passport for – so is in cahoots with someone ... to smuggle that child, that previously doesn’t exist on a government roll somewhere back into the country and has the amazing foresight to place birth announcements in the Hawaii newspapers? All while this is transpiring in cahoots with those in the border, all so some kid named Barack Obama could run for President 46 and a half years later."
'You Couldn't Sell This Script in Hollywood'".

Without a doubt.

 

Well, see … Hawaii was never part of the South, so is a *suspect* State ...

 

Was just talking to a neighbor who was born in Hawaii back in 1972. She misplaced her Hawaiian birth certificate back in 2005 and requested a copy of her original birth certificate. What she got was a computer generated birth certificate that had all the info that her original birth certificate had but it wasn't the original.

Her original birth certificate looked just like any other American birth certificate who weren't born in Hawaii. Her new reissued birth certificate looks like Obama's birth certificate. It's not a copy of the original.

Back in 2001 Hawaii went paperless. All of the birth certificates from the early 1900's to 2000 were entered into a computer and the original birth certificates went into the dumpster.

So no, Obama never produced his original birth certificate. Only Obama could produce the original unless he misplaced it. The State of Hawaii has no ones original birth certificate who was born before 2001, just information that has been entered into a computer. What you get is a computer generated certificate of live birth which even the state of Hawaii acknowledges not to be a real birth certificate like most Americans have.

 

I really don't give a damn about your bizarre interpretations of 'natural from positive'

Like I said- everyone who matters has already weighed in- the voters, the Electoral College, Congress, Chief Justice Roberts, the courts.

You reject them all, and weave a fantasy version of what natural born citizen is and wonder why no one but you and a dozen others believe it.

 

Hah, no one was questioning in those other cases.

Formal requests for records from citizens are not to be ignored if the constitution is to be upheld. Period.

A candidate must be forthcoming, and the FEC must provide information to verify constitutional issues. Any vagary that might compromise the law of the constitution is prohibitive, only err in favor of the law is allowable.

I suppose the fact that Guiliani took the building plans and all other documents describing the structure of the Twin Towers from the NYC dept. of buildings is okay too. Then NIST did an analysis without plans, and they were MISLEAD about the structural coreThen NIST did an analysis without plans, and they were MISLEAD about the structural core.

In that case will you say its okay that 3,000 death certificates are in error? If that can happen, 7 years later a KGB agent could be slipped into the presidency. There is evidence, and behaviors are consistent with a problem of infiltration.

 

Well that is a nice fairy tale- but like all Birther stories- just another Birther lie.

Barack Obama's original birth certificate is on file at the Department of Health in Hawaii.

How do we know this? I mean rational, informed people? Because the State of Hawaii has repeatedly told us that.

http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

The full story from the State of Hawaii is at that link.

Like your neighbor, Barack Obama was issued a legal birth certificate by the State of Hawaii in 2007- a computer generated legal birth certificate. In 2011, after he specially requested it, he was issued a certified copy of the original on file in Hawaii- also a legal birth certificate.

Both have been verified by the State of Hawaii.

And both of which you don't believe.

Because you prefer to believe Birther hucksters rather than actual officials in charge of documents.

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No requirement for a candidate to provide anything other than proof of eligibility- and then only to Secretary's of State.

You don't like what a candidate releases?

Don't vote for the candidate.

 

Can you show me one Certified Document Examiner who has ever said that any President's birth certificates are real?

No, I thought not.

Just another Birther making up phony crap that he doesn't hold any other candidate or President to.

Meanwhile- the only relevant experts- the Directors of Health of Hawaii have verified them- but of course Birthers don't listen to real experts.

 

But but but the stae of Hawaii directs you to go here -> For information go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

There's no original paper birth certificate, it's all is in a computer today. Now the computer can produce a paper certificate of birth.

My neighbor isn't known for lying so she has more credibility than Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett wouldn't you say ?

 

Even if the first video is not totally correct, his mentor was a communist.

http://www.obamasrealfather.com

His mother was too.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/06/18/foxs-crowley-obamas-parents-were-communists-mot/162197

There is motivation to misrepresent BO as natural born to get him into office.

And you, begin to look like a figment of Cass Sunstein recommendations to BO.

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

 

Yep- the nutjob Birthers refuse to accept reality.

The only true experts on Hawaiian Birth Certificates are the officials entrusted with that responsibility by Hawaiian State law.

And they are 'biased' in as much their entire job is verifying the authenticity of birth certificates.

Birthers are idiots.

 

From your own link you provided if you follow the links it takes you to this -> http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/Birth_Certificate_Request.pdf

And what does the Director of Health Lortta Fuddy have to say in the last letter ? It's in black and white. She says she's going to issue two computer generated certificates of live birth.

Computer generated just like the "Killian Documents" were computer generated exposing how stupid liberals are because they didn't notice the font was from Microsoft Words that didn't exist in 1971-1972. If you are going to forge a document from the early 1970's it's best to hit the antique shops or yard sales looking for a typewriter.

 

Yep, just one of the major inconsistencies of the digital construct.

These are covert agents sent to try and change day into night. Facts mean nothing to them. The failure to use the surrounding circumstance and selectivity expose them. Concealing treason IS a crime.

 

Well, yeah … but … the whole bit is such strange comedy …
Lots of people loved laughing at the Three Stooges, yes … ???

 

Your neighbor may be as uninformed as you are.

One of the things that is irritating about these boards is that posting images is a pain.

So here is what I will do- I am going to bother to post what the State of Hawaii says- and then you will ignore what the State of Hawaii says- because that is what Birthers do.

But what the State of Hawaii does clearly say is that it has the original birth certificate of Barack Obama, that they copied the original- certified it- and then as they noted- that BC was posted online

Like I said you will ignore the clear obvious truth and pursue some bizarre Birther rationalism instead.

 

You are the one who just keeps repeating falsehoods. They never verified the ones posted on the internet.

They've never verified anything seen by the public.

And no, I can't, name another president because it hasn't been this big of a controversy since like Garfield or Arthur
or one of those guys.

 

How often do you observe these agents changing day into night?

Facts mean nothing to Birthers- which is why Birthers love flim flam artists and con-men.

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Whatever- you are a Birther- you are impervious to facts or the Truth.

I can lead you to the Truth- but I cannot make you read it.

http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

 

I don't know why you continue to deny the reality that I have presented. These are facts.

You don't present any facts. Just repeating the same old line. There is no curiosity there.

Why don't you check it out for yourself? I am not a birther by the way.

Anti-birthers are idiots too.

 

No- seriously- you don't even read this stuff- do you?

HONOLULU
–
The Hawai„i State
Health Department recently compliedwitha request by
President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth,
which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate
.
“
We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the
numerous inquiries related to his
birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said.
“
I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the
department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

On April 22, 2011 President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy
, requesting two certified copies of hisoriginal Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same requestin writing on behalf of the President.
(Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached)
.
On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the
copies

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No facts- just your same old discredited opinions.

 

Wait … !!! This just in …

(Reportedly) the original certified undoubtedly genuine official birth certificate of Barack Hussein O'Bama has been found … in the "Money Pit" on Oak Island, just off the coast of Nova Scotia ...

 

Fuddy said the certificate was computer generated. Maybe she's a liar ?