Is it moral for God to punish us?

Sure it does. You are claiming that God is discriminating against the unsaved for not accepting them into heaven, despite scoffing him and not accepting his invitation.

 

I watched a show today on PBS where they were discussing Telepathy and trying to scientifically prove it exists and trying to understand WHY it is possible.

I was astounded that they didn't understand WHY Telepathy exists as they have proven that Telepathy DOES exist even though they used 10's of thousands of students in Telepathy experiments and the data showed that the statistics of ten's of thousands of students where one student or Professor had 3 objects under three containers and would think hard and form a picture of an object one by one in their mind and the student would guess what they thinking and what the object was........what happened was this....

......I small but quantifiable higher percentage than is statistically possible of students who correctly guessed what was under all three containers when another student or Professor was thinking about them occurred.

When a student was sent in alone to guess what was under all three containers the statistics showed that they chose wrong an a higher level than those who chose wrong when there was another person thinking about the objects.

This I can tell you to be a FACT.....the FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, DIA, NSA, Homeland Security...etc....ALL....EVERY SINGLE AGENCY.....have Psychics on their payroll.

Now...why?

Because some very REAL gifted people actually exist and this is how it works......scientifically from a Quantum Mechanics explanation....

....and just to add I was dismayed that the PBS show did not go into Telepathy into the detail I now will.


Every single person get's a certain number of Brain Cells and that's it!!!

You get so many and Brain Cells do not grow in number nor replace themselves after a Human Brain reaches a certain point of development.

When Brain cells die...you lose them forever....and that's it!!! And a person is a tiny bit dumber because of it.

Now Brain Cells are made of Molecules which of course are Atoms that are chemically bound together and in each Atom....except a Hydrogen Atom which has no Neutrons in it's Nucleus...but in all other Atoms you have both Neutrons and Protons.

The Atomic Nucleus of all Atoms are surrounded by the same number of Electrons as there are Protons in the Nucleus and the Electrons are Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of energy that exist in an Electron Orbital Field surrounding the Nucleus.

The Protons and Neutrons are comprised of smaller Quantum Particle/Wave Forms and a Proton is comprised of 2 Up Quarks and 1 Down Quark or UUD.

The Neutrons are comprised of 2 Down Quarks and 1 Up Quark thus UDD.

Like the Proton, the Quarks of the Neutron are held together by the STRONG FORCE which is mediated by Gluons.

Gluons are like the GLUE which holds Quarks together and the binding of Quarks to other Quarks by Gluons is called the Strong Force and any attempt to separate the Quarks being held together to other Quarks by Gluons results in an every increasing exponentially attractive Gluon hold upon the Quarks trying to be separated.

Eight types of Gluons.

Gluon is in fact a generic term to cover eight different particles mediating the Strong Nuclear Force. The Gluons carry that force’s charge, which is known as the color charge. Each Gluon carries a color positive and a color negative charge. There are three different types of color charge called red, blue and green charge, and the different combinations of these charges yields the eight different types of Gluon. Color charge combinations are the only distinction between the different Gluons. The superscripts of the Weak Force Bosons refer to their electric charge.

Four more types of Quarks are known to exist, the Strange Quark, the Charmed Quark, the Bottom Quark and the Top Quark. These Quarks only appear in high energy radiation, and do not have a stable existence. The Charmed Quark can be involved in constituting a very short-lived composite particle comprising a +2/3 charmed Quark and a -2/3 Antimatter Anticharmed Quark. Being composed of Matter and Antimatter, the component particles annihilate one another, in the same manner as colliding Electrons and Positrons.

An interesting aspect of this is that despite the fact that Quarks are not known to be divisible, they can still be annihilated to leave just energy in the form of Photons. This again seems to undermine the idea of any of the Quanta as constituting something truly fundamental.

Fermions are one of the two fundamental classes of particles, the other being Bosons.

Fermion particles are described by Fermi–Dirac statistics and have quantum numbers described by the Pauli exclusion principle. They include the Quarks and Leptons, as well as any composite particles consisting of an odd number of these, such as all Baryons and many atoms and nuclei.

Bosons make up one of the other class of particles

Examples of Bosons include fundamental particles such as Photons, Guons, and W and Z Bosons which are the four force-carrying Gauge Bosons of the Standard Model.

The Higgs-Boson which was recently and finally discovered and the Higgs-Boson is known as the GOD PARTICLE but not because it has anything to do with proof of a GOD.....but rather for the purpose of selling books!! LOL!!!

The Physicist and physicists who had spent YEARS looking for the all elusive particle which has a FIELD that is the reason and cause that allows all Hadrons...ie...Protons, Neutrons and Pions.....to have MASS.....were so fed up of this particle eluding them they called it the *******N PARTICLE!!!!

A Physicist decided to write a book and called it THE *******N PARTICLE!!!

But his publisher was seeing....$$$$ Dollar Signs EVERYWHERE!!! LOL!!!!$$$$$$....as this very SMART PUBLISHER told the Physicist....."Hey!!! I will publish your book if you change the title to...THE GOD PARTICLE!!

The Particle Physicist asked the publisher WHY did he want to change his books title?? He asked if using the words *******N was too much as far as insulting some people and his publisher said...."HELL NO!!!....we name the book....THE GOD PARTICLE.....and we will sell MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of copies of your book to Ultra-Right Wing Religious Fanatics who HATE SCIENCE AND PHYSICS ESPECIALLY!!!! They will THINK YOUR BOOK IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF A GOD EXISTS!!!"

And sure as S#!#......it was the best selling Physics Book of ALL TIME!!! LOL!!!!

I personally know a few people who bought it and have it on their coffee table as their own SELF PROFESSED SCIENTIFIC PROOF GOD EXISTS....but these people have never even opened up the book and read the damn thing!!! LOL!!!


ANYWAYS.....also as part of Hadrons...ie...Protons, Neutrons and Pions.....we detect what is known as VIRTUAL QUARK/ANTIQUARK PAIRINGS.


AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL NOW DISCUSS THE QUANTUM MECHANICS ASPECT OF TELEPATHY!!!

The VIRTUAL QUARK/ANTIQUARK PAIRINGS are DETECTED AS EXISTING IN SPECIFIC CHANGING NUMBERS within Hadrons.....but they literally....BLINK IN AND OUT OF UNIVERSAL EXISTENCE!!!

They EXIST AT OR BETWEEN a numerical MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM...but NEVER less than that minimum and NEVER more than that maximum.

It would seem that when any Hadron which is about to be effected and this effect is a RESULT OF CAUSALITY...thus CAUSE AND EFFECT.....the VIRTUAL QUARK/ANTIQUARK PAIRINGS pop into existence and are at or close to NUMERICAL MAXIMUM!!

When there is a LOW PROBABILITY OF DRIVING CAUSALITY OR CAUSE AND EFFECT....the Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings is at or near NUMERICAL MINIMUM.

When Probability is is near 50%.....Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings are numerically balanced.



Now the thing is...WHERE are these Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings coming from????

They are coming from and being transferred to or from other Hadrons existing within Protons and Neutrons that make up the ALTERNATE VERSIONS of any object....or any person....or any BRAIN....existing within another Alternate Divergent Universal state of reality.


There are INFINITE VERSIONS OF EACH OF US.....existing in infinite and Alternate Divergent Universal States of Reality.

Now say you have a person in THIS REALITY....who's mind is SENSITIVE to such Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings that carry INFORMATION.

This person is able to access that transferred and SHARED data that exists in the minds of all their alternate selves.

And since in reality TIME is actually SPACE-TIME and although we sense time as having a past, present and future in reality TIME RUNS CONCURRENT.

So this SENSITIVE or PSYCHIC....OR TELEPATH.....is able to sense the data transferred into their mind by this Quanta exchange.

In another Alternate Universe.....a woman who is always being told she always knows what someone will say before they say it is reading an article on the Internet News that TIMMY JONES fell down a well on Tuesday December 15th 2015 and was found dead with a broken leg on Thursday December 17th 2015 at 9 pm. est.

The article describes the town and address of the farm and describes the location of the well on the farm and even gives the address of the now hysterical parents.

In THIS UNIVERSE.....an ON THE FBI PAYROLL PSYCHIC is given a call and told that a kid is missing and that the missing kid just lives a few towns over from her and if she would be willing to try to find the kid.

This psychic woman is the Alternate IDENTICAL Version of the woman in the other alternate universe.....as well is the alternate version of INFINITE OTHER VERSIONS OF HERSELF....all other versions living in every infinite alternate divergent universal reality.

The Psychic goes to the home of the kid and the day is now Wednesday at 12:00 pm.

She asks for a piece of clothing worn as recently as possible by the kid and any toy or anything the kid would have TOUCHED.

Anything a person touches leaves cells and DNA thus QUANTA behind on anything they touch.

The woman touches a toy that Timmy played with just before he went outside to play and other things.

Eventually this woman is given an object that Timmy was holding WHILE TIMMY THOUGHT ABOUT GOING TO AN OLD FARM TO THROW A PENNY INTO AN OLD WELL SO HIS GOOD LUCK WOULD GET HIS DAD TO BUY HIM A GO CART!!!

The Psychic touches that object Timmy held while thinking this and it is a baseball and them the psychic via CAUSALITY.....as per cause and effect that object or baseball and as Probability skyrockets that the Psychics hand and the ball will come into contact with each other the Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings within the Protons and Neutrons of her hand and the baseball climb to at NUMERICAL MAXIMUM!!!

At that point a combination of QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT and VIRTUAL QUARK/ANTIQUARK DATA EXCHANGE are able to allow the Psychic to access the MIND OF HER ALTERNATE SELF existing in a completely divergent and alternate Universal reality.

As the Psychic access the mind of her alternate self....or perhaps she access many minds of the alternate selves it now depends upon which version of herself she has accessed which will determine how much and exactly what information about TIMMY she will be able to access.

If the Psychic access the alternate universal version of herself that is a DRUNK and never woke up that day to get a chance to go online and read the article detailing where and when Timmy died....well the Psychic might not figure this out and a lot of tat depends upon what she touched and exactly how the arrangement of the membranes separating Divergent Universal Realities are set up as far as M or BRANE THEORY.

But say things work out and the Psychic access the mind of her alternate self that read the internet article and as TIME is SPACE-TIME and is CONCURRENT....the Psychic can access past, present and future and thus she see's the article...the place...the time....and where Timmy is.

It is now 9 Pm on Wednesday and according to what the Psychic saw when she accessed the Alternate Version of herself is what she will think has happened to Timmy and where Timmy is so everyone goes and looks on that farm and......TIMMY IS NOT THERE!!!????

HOW CAN TIMMY NOT BE THERE!!!????

Well.....unfortunately and this is a REALITY of accessing data mentally from an Alternate Self in another Alternate and Divergent Universe......problem this time was that because there are INFINITE VERSIONS AND INFINITE DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL REALITIES......this Psychic held the BASEBALL....and picked up the data in the mind of her alternate self about Timmy's death to come from her perspective.

But the BALL threw her off as if she would have just picked up the FRIZZ BEE...she would have accessed the proper alternate self who also read an internet article detailing how Timmy was playing with a Frizz Bee on land near an old dump and as he threw the disc to try to hit a target he set up on dump land....and as the target he set up tipped for no reason and Timmy went over to fix it....an AIR POCKET COLLAPSED right underneath Timmy and buried him alive and he suffocated and died that Tuesday and he did get his leg broken.

When the Psychic touched the Baseball....she accessed Quantum Data specific to an ALTERNATE TIMMY who died in another Alternate Universal State falling down a well and breaking his leg.

And in another Alternate and Divergent Universal state of Reality.....the alternate version of this FBI Psychic....touched the ball as well and saved Timmy.......as there are many versions of Timmy that died and lived and many that never had an issue.

There were many versions of Timmy where he didn't even live near the Psychic and versions where Timmy was never even born.

This...is how Telepathy, Psychic Ability and Remote Viewing work.

It is all about a person being SENSITIVE and being capable of accessing mental data that is transfered in and out of the Hadrons via Virtual Quark/Antiquark Pairings that are within the Hadrons or Nucleons...ie...Protons and Neutrons...that are part of the Atomic Nucleus's that comprise the BRAIN CELLS in a persons head.

AboveAlpha

 

It must be comforting for you to live in the world of your imagination. Suspect your afterlife will prove just as illusory as your logic.

 

Can you actually post evidence from any scientific source.
J

 

Yes, I'm quite comforted. I either go to heaven or perish. No reason to not be comforted. You, will just perish.

 

Everything I have just described as far as the Physics exists in any current books on Quantum Mechanics and you can easily look it up on the internet.

The PBS show was just one 2 days ago so you can easily find that.

The aspects of Quantum Physics such as Quantum Entanglement and Teleportation as well as the fact a Quantum Computer working with all infinite in number alternate versions of itself in all divergent universal states of reality is how a Quantum Computer works and Google just purchased a Quantum Computer from the company D-Wave thus if this was not a fact the Quantum Computer would not work.

A Quantum Computer must be manufactured and assembled ROBOTICALLY as if it is not any OBSERVATION by either a Human or any animal or even a FLY while the Quantum Computer is being built will render it useless.

D-Wave did an experiment as it built 10 of it's 100 Quibit Quantum Processors robotically and it Digital Videoed them being built.

4 years later a few men from D-Wave watched the part of the Digital Video where 4 of the Quantum Processors were being robotically assembled....ALL 4 STOPPED QUANTUM CALCULATING AND FUNCTIONING IMMEDIATELY UPON THE MEN WATCHING THAT VIDEO 4 YEARS LATER!!!

Next they put a live FLY in a clear plastic cup and and taped the cup to the computer screen and they left the room and ran the video of the next 4 Quantum Computers being robotically assembled......IMMEDIATELY THOSE 4 STOPPED WORKING AS JUST A FLY OBSERVING THE ASSEMBLY COLLAPSED WAVE FUNCTION AND LOCKED IN VALUE!!!

As far as what I posted about the Psychic....Psychics do exist on the FBI and DoD and other Agencies Payroll....but my expatiation of what exactly allows some people to have Psychic ability or be remote viewers...etc...cannot as yet be definitively proven however it does fit and works within the realities of Quantum Mechanics and Multiversal Theory.

Physicists in the Lab have already been able to TELEPORT materials over 200 miles in distance.

AboveAlpha

 

... not for God, Only for Man when based on the abomination of hypocrisy-Job 34:30.

 

So you actually believe your kindly, non discriminatory, well meaning toward others nature will qualify you for heaven. Good luck with that!

 

I must have missed your link documenting physicists teleporting materials. Please repost.

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And just so you know PBS is not a scientific source.

 

When did I say this? Believing in, asking forgiveness and living Christ like are the requirements for heaven.

 

Do you remember the name of the show? Because I was thinking NOVA but that one wasn't about Telepathy. But that's okay if you don't remember.

Well, I find all of this stuff on telepathy, quantum teleportation, entanglement to be very interesting. I just don't know how it goes together? How they're related?

Another thing I was wondering if these three things are all there is to know about quantum mechanics? Now these are bewildering subjects in themselves, but I was wondering if there are other aspects of quantum mechanics or the fundamentals of the Universe or if that's all there is to know?

 

As far as I recall living Christ like is not a requirement to get to heaven.

 

Continuing to live unchrist like does not reflect a true faith. It does not mean a Christian does not sin, it just means that faith without works is dead.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2:14-26&version=NKJV

 

We are talking the requirements to get to heaven. There is no salvation through deeds which is why Christianity is a morally bankrupt religion.

 

Maybe you should read the bible. It is not as simple as you put it. You have to have a true conversion that reflects in your new life.

 

I am willing to bet you can't actually prove that statement. Feel free to quote any biblical passage that says there is a requirement that deeds have to follow a true conversion before you can get to heaven.

 

I did(#363)did you ignore it? Are you under the impression that a murderer can ask forgiveness and continue to murder? Etc., etc....
http://www.gotquestions.org/faith-without-works-dead.html

More:

Matthew 7:21-23New American Standard Bible (NASB)

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many [a]miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

 

Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50 “The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Mark 9:43, 48-49 “And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire…where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire.”- Jesus

Torturing someone for all eternity for not believing in you is 100% moral didn't you know? Since when has torturing people was not moral? God has been doing it since he sent Lucifer down to tempt us.

Or so Christianity says.

 

You're welcome to your opinion. I've given you scriptures that say otherwise. Now, use common sense.

 

It could have been Nova...it was PBS.

There are many things we don't know about Quantum Mechanics...specifically we don't understand a UFT....Unified Field Theory which would connect the Quantum to the Macro.

But as far as Telepathy, Remote Viewing, Psychic Ability....we KNOW these things exist.

What I have described allows a scientific explanation for such things.

AboveAlpha

 

LINK....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation

Specific to Quantum Teleportation.

AboveAlpha

 

Well there might be a scientific explanation for it, but considering some of the ideas out there about consciousness and the Universe there might still be a layer of the supernatural to the Universe. Perhaps it's something we plug into when we become more evolved?

Hey the Universe might be more paranoid than I am, what with conscious observation collapsing the wave function. Well, wouldn't it be useful to try and use the special abilities to reach out and try to view these unviewable events?

But from my point of view these Psi abilities are being hidden by the powers that be. So, I don't know about them.

 

Or...what we consider to be Supernatural is just natural physical laws of the Universe and Multiverse.

AboveAlpha

 

Playing around with the multiverse is something that boggles the mind. Every Tactitian's nightmare. Imagine having to take into account infinity?

 

Nice fail. Try again to quote the bible passages that say deeds have to follow to get to heaven. It is deeds we are talking about here, not sincere repentance, or don't you understand the difference.