Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. Anarcho-Technocrat

    Anarcho-Technocrat New Member

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    I am honestly surprised you recognized it as such. Your virtual pairings, however, would be elements of Hilbert Space. My argument is clearly the most simple as it requires only the fundamental postulates of quantum mechanics with another logically consistent interpretation of the wavefunction. Occam's razor, I win.

    Oh and, that ridiculously obscure category theory mixed in with some natural language processing has absolutely nothing to do with virtual particles, so yea.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!

    If you say so.

    The Virtual Pairings can be detected and their numerics change as well.

    I believe this is either because or creating causality.

    I am not sure either way....but there is definitely something to it.

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    There is a flaw in my argument. Let's see if you can find it. Down the rabbit hole we go!
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    The hole in your argument is that Hilbert Space has nothing to do with Virtual Pairing numerics.

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. Anarcho-Technocrat

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    What do you mean by "Virtual Pairings?" Looking back at my past self who was on this exact forum proclaiming my superior knowledge of physics without knowing jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about physics (until of course I eventually got a degree in physics --jesus christ I've been here for awhile..) I would have to say you are young and absolutely fascinated with nature but extraordinarily ego-concentrated. I was the same way until of course I went to school and got my ego's ass kicked.

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    Incorrect. The flaw is that it has not been proven that all vectors in Hilbert Space are wavefunctions. Although it doesn't take much of a leap to convince yourself that all vectors in Hilbert Space must be wavefunctions.
     
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    I wish I was young.

    Believe me if I was young I would proclaim it...PROUDLY!!

    We can detect the number of Virtual Quark/Antiquark pairings popping into existence within Hadrons but they are VIRTUAL...thus not actually existing within our reality but DETECTABLE!!!

    I developed a theory where I believe that the Virtual Quark/Antiquark pairing NUMERICS are either dictating or are a result of Causality.

    I can only explain this with the math.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. Anarcho-Technocrat

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    The proof however must demonstrate that a vector in Hilbert Space is isomorphic to the wavefunction.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    You don't understand.

    Read my previous post.

    AboveAlpha

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    POLYMORPHIC!!!

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    Go for it. I love mathematics.
     
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    Polymorphisms in type theory? Thanks but no thanks. I don't think your aware of it but you are suggesting we are in a simulation.

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    That simulation would be in Hilbert Space, so, again I win. Checkmate.
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    Go to post #581.

    First you have to learn the Syntax, Semantics, Translations, and Equational Logic of Multiversal Polymorphic Quadratic Equations before you could ever even hope to understand the New Form Calculus.

    Please don't waste my time as it is a real pain in the A$$ just to find the New From Calculus symbology to post on this forum.

    If you understand it I will post it but as I said....please don't say you do if you don't as it is a LOT of work.

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    Not in simulation.

    In a state of Quantum Superposition.

    Get it?

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  12. Anarcho-Technocrat

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    That's some fancy mumbo jumbo there. You don't need any of that ridiculousness to describe nature. Try allowing continuous walks on an underlying discrete structure -- I bet you can reconstruct all of quantum mechanics. In fact that is the research I am doing -- albeit very slowly since im in a lab doing biophysics. Allowing continuous walks on a graph mathematically translates into taking the adjacency matrix as the argument of a power-law which is conceptually identical to a feynman path integral over a graph with an unknown Lagrangian. It's a freaking map to Hilbert Space! Was able to derive fraunhofer diffraction from the simplest graph, a path graph on two vertices. Is it all just some mathematical coincidence? Maybe. But my intuition tells me that the universe is far simpler than anyone could have possibly imagined.
     
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    And my intuition and the math tells me that we are existing in one form or another in an infinite number of divergent universal states that are a part of our Universal Baseline Reality Grouping.

    Our grouping has infinite divergent universal states and infinite versions of you and I but this is JUST ONE GROUPING.

    The Multiverse has also an infinite number of groupings as well each one with it's own completely different natural physical laws and constructs that humans would not be able to identify with these different Baseline Reality Groupings.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Just to add this is consistent with the concept of INFINITE.

    In any infinite system there cannot exist only one Universal Baseline Reality Grouping.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    So, tell me, what is it you think I want to know?
     
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    Well, I would never presume to speak for AboveAlpha, but in the past he has said that quarks exist between a numerical minimum and maximum number.

    And when someone is going to make a choice that is likely the quarks are at their maximum.

    And when someone has an unlikely choice that they don't do the quarks exist at a minimum.

    But since quarks are never at zero it may mean that realities are being formed where they do the unlikely action.

    I think in AboveAlpha's multiversal theory that it's one of those ones where they think everything that can happen does happen, that the universe splits into separate divergent states, where each possibility is realized, each state as real as another.
     
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    This brings in another, free-will kind of aspect into the argument. On the other hand, my secondary point is his inability to make himself understood, so maybe it shouldn't surprise me that there are entire aspects like this that I just haven't picked up that he's talking about.
     
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    I banged my head today on a padded post in a ring where I was sparing so I am still seeing birds and stars tonight.

    I will get back to this on a day I am not so light headed.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I heard that the Large Hadron Collider found the first indication of a new particle.

    I know it's too soon for verification, but I thought I'd mention it.

    This is good news for the scientific community because we may now have a hint of other physics. And Physicists can try to guess what particle it is and how it fits into our strict rules and understanding of physics.

    And hopefully it will help support the particle collider endeavor now and in the future. Those projects need money, support, and a friendly community in the locations where future ones are planned to be build.

    Potential New Particle Shows Up at the LHC, Thrilling and Confounding Physicists


    Did we just discover a new subatomic particle? Scientists are being super cautious.

     
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    Well....since I have not seen the data I don't know as I am spending time with my family as half of them will leave for Florida right after Christmas.

    I hope to leave by Mid-January as we are still re-modeling one of our company buildings and if I am not there to keep track of things.....it always get's screwed up.

    I was gone a very short time ago for a bit over a week and I came back and 20% of what I detailed out had to be done a certain way was done wrong.

    And I REALLY hate it when some General Contractor makes the mistake of trying to tell me something can't be done because I know if it can or can't!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Oh yeah I hate that. You've got to keep an eye on them.
     
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    This one floor...they were actually sheet rocking OVER an entire line of electrical receptacles!!!

    I had the Contractor pull that crew off the job.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Ouch! That's blind stupidity. It would surprise me if any of these guys got any training or common sense.

    So, how are you and the rest of your family doing?
     
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    Still kicking!!

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