A Draft is Necessary for America

I am amazed with my anti Vietnam self for acknowledging

A Draft is Necessary for America.​

Without a draft, America bleeds over endless Vietnam-s with no goal to declare "victory".

ChickenHawks promote war because it ain't their kids on the front lines.
The loss of blood, bone, lives is born by the poorest, those seeking a Green Card and sadly, the gullible.
War profiteering Corporations ala Boeing & Lockheed profit more with no anti war marchers in the streets.

The All Volunteer Army has not served "our" America well for what "we" should stand for.
The All Volunteer Army has served escapism from moral responsibility. "Why We Fight" or Not.​

Moi's Plan
1) After 9 months of deployment to any location, the draft would be mandatory.
2) No deployments, no draft.
3) And of course, Outlaw - Private Military, Inc. ala Blackwater & Graystone requiring the American gov't to fight with only, American military forces.
4) Outlaw persons trained by the American Military from being, Soldiers of Fortune via their
tax payer supported military education

Anyone care to chime in?​

Moi


r > g

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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

If the Draft comes back, America better be prepared for outrageous protests similar to those during the late 60's.

 

Tie military service or a sort of U.S. Peace Corp to voting. Do one or the other and be given the right to vote. Do neither and you cannot.

 

How about no to government slavery?

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Then everyone who cannot vote should not be able to be taxed.

 

How American of you. As long as America is fighting for its survival fine! However since world war 2 we havent needed a draft

 

And if they don't pay taxes, they shouldn't have access to hospitals, roads or anything else taxes pay for because they're leeches on society.

Fair?

It would actually do wonders for our entitled, spoiled generation, teaching them many things they never learned from their parents.

Israel has mandatory military service and no country on earth has a population ready for anything you can throw at them. They're all bada$$es.

 

That idea sounds so nice and simple stupid. But once you think about it is simply stupid.

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You did forget the tittle small matters of Korea and Vietnam or are you ignoring those ?

 

Back To Basics,
Hyperbole Elsewhere​

I am amazed with my anti Vietnam self for acknowledging

A Draft is Necessary for America.​

Without a draft, America bleeds over endless Vietnam-s with no goal to declare "victory".

ChickenHawks promote war because it ain't their kids on the front lines.
The loss of blood, bone, lives is born by the poorest, those seeking a Green Card and sadly, the gullible.
War profiteering Corporations ala Boeing & Lockheed profit more with no anti war marchers in the streets.

The All Volunteer Army has not served "our" America well for what "we" should stand for.
The All Volunteer Army has served escapism from moral responsibility. "Why We Fight" or Not.​

Moi's Plan
1) After 9 months of deployment to any location, the draft would be mandatory.
2) No deployments, no draft.
3) And of course, Outlaw - Private Military, Inc. ala Blackwater & Graystone requiring the American gov't to fight with only, American military forces.
4) Outlaw persons trained by the American Military from being, Soldiers of Fortune via their
tax payer supported military education

Anyone care to chime in?
Re.: No Draft = Endless Wars​

Moi


r > g

View attachment 40174
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

This isn't a Heinlein book. I thought you were a freedom loving patriot who believed in the constitution and you can't wait to take away the right to vote, hilarious.

I do think if people had some civil service under their belt we'd have a populace that wouldn't take our freedoms for granted. I will say that one major strength our military has is the fact that it is volunteer. Drill sergeants love to remind new recruits of that fact.

 

Voting is a privilege not to be taken for granted. I for one am sick of the parasites sucking the life blood out of the country. If voting privileges were based upon having given something in return, and breeding isn't one of the criteria, the country would be better off at least in my opinion.

 

It was liberals and the "New Left" who after hijacking the Democrat party and ending the draft demanded an all volunteer military so they wouldn't have to stand post serve. Let the red necks from the South stand post and defend America.

The left was warned that an all volunteer military would become expensive. Unknown at the time, the all volunteer military would become a married military that would even become more expensive. Now the left doesn't want to pay for the all volunteer military.

Then the left passed the "War Powers Act" thinking it would prevent America going to war, actually the War Powers Act made it easier for a President to go to war.

The left also came up with the "Total Force" concept that if an Army brigade was deployed over seas into combat that the reserves and Guard would have to be activated and sent along with the active duty Army. The left believed that citizen soldiers would revolt and refuse to go to war. The left got it wrong again, the reservist and Guard aren't pantywaist liberals and did show up when activated and did go to war.

For almost two hundred years the American tradition was the "Citizen Soldier." A small standing professional Officers Corps and SNCO Corps where citizens would either volunteer or were drafted to serve a couple of years in the military and then return to the private sector after their active tour of duty. It worked well until the left decided to fix something that wasn't broken when the real hidden agenda was so they wouldn't have to serve.

But it got worse. From 1993 to 2000 and 2009 to today the left decided that the U.S. military should no longer be in the business of killing people and blowing things up but should be used for liberal social engineering experimentation.

 

The OP sounds like a communist. He doesn't care about the lives of kids, just send enough of them off to die so he can take the profits from corporations.

Rather sickening if you ask me.

A normal person would probably advocate for putting rules in place such as making any military action subject to congressional approval or something along those lines but not the OP. Let's use the dead bodies of kids to get what we want.

 

Korea and Vietnam never attacked American soil. Iraq never did either. Afganistam didnt all the hi jackers came from Suadi Arabia. You could make a case for our fighting for America there.

 

That's very un-american of you, in my opinion. What scale do you use? What qualifications exist to separate who get's to vote and who doesn't? You say, "having given something in return." What is that something? Who says if it is good enough? Do we have a McCarthy-ish council on patriotism?

Have you ever served in the military? I'm interested to hear your response since this thread is dealing with the spirit of volunteering.

You may be living in the wrong country. Also, i'll remember this the next time you speak about freedom and liberty in this country. Far too many paper patriots like freedom and liberty only when it suits them.

 

Do you want to see most PC liberals running to Canada AGAIN ?

 

As I said in the beginning serve in the military OR a Peace Corp like service inside the U.S. All for freedom and liberty along with individual responsibility. Everyone, a few physical and mental exceptions of course, can do something to help with the care of the country. Being a couch potato leach, contributing nothing but sucking off the public teat and then being able to vote for more from those who produce is BS...

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As I said in the beginning serve in the military OR a Peace Corp like service inside the U.S. All for freedom and liberty along with individual responsibility. Everyone, a few physical and mental exceptions of course, can do something to help with the care of the country. Being a couch potato leach, contributing nothing but sucking off the public teat and then being able to vote for more from those who produce is BS...

 

And chickenhawks are often too old to fight, so they have nothing to risk. I wonder how many of them are helping veterans with problems caused by their tours.

 

I tend to agree with this as it would force the Government to "go in to win" if they decide to get involved.

Would that go the same for every person who went to college on Government Grants?

 

Those were in 1968 and '69 despite all the noise the Vietnam war didn't end till 1975. With facial recognition software there is today, it would be easy to pick out the draft dodgers in the crowd by comparing to DMV Driver's license photos.

 

Communists making profits from corporations ? Only the Red Chinese do that. Them and Wall MART ...

 

What I responded to was that the posted said that we did not use the draft since WW II

 

ok let's do it then draft them and work them until they drop on KP .....

 

Israel is also a racist Apartheid state who oppresses a huge portion of their population. I'm sure your love for us to be just like them.

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Yeah, if the slaves don't want to fight, work them until they die.

 

So instead you want to implement a taxation without representation system.

Good job, King George.

 

Don't know where you came up with that but if your ok with the parasites voting to steal from you well I'm happy for you.