Psychiatrist famous for declassifying homosexuality as mental illness ...........

Ahhh, too bad!

I had hoped there might be of something besides Right Wing smear propaganda. .

Fail!

 

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I think you left out the part where the Evangelical Christians take what the bible said "literally", parables or not. (earth is 6,000 years old) The NT is mainly parables but not the OT.

 

Hilarity indeed does ensue. The ridiculous contrivances of floating men from the sky, the endless paradise as long as you follow 10 rules, etc.

What a joke it truly is.

 

You need to be schooled on Darwin. Here's the applicable lesson:

No amount of fudge packing will propagate a gene.

 

As someone who actually has experience dealing with mental health professionals, you couldn't be more wrong.

 

Neither will any amount of women sucking dick. Why aren't you cons calling for putting men who like getting head on the list of sufferers of mental illness or calling them "unnatural"?

 

excellent point and when services such as "Courage" which helps people cast aside their addiction to gay sex, come upon the scene, the gay movement gets up in arms and begs the govt to ban those services.

On the flip side, we hear liberals celebrate camps where children are encouraged to cross dress and experiment in being the opposite sex. We applaud lesbians who give hormone blockers to their 7 year old boy as they try and make him into a girl. And we're told that is not a mental illness??????

 

I actually cannot believe it is 2016 and we are reading such outdated, medieval beliefs.

 

nobody is denying you the right to go have gay sex.

The issue is that it's abnormal and a cure should be found. We help drug and alcohol addicts and a compassionate society should also help those who become addicted to gay sex.

 

believe it

lesbians gave hormone blockers to a 7 year-old little boy and child services DID NOT intervene.

We've arrived at the point where the govt has deemed how one chooses to have sex to be equal to how one is born

 

I was talking about the notion that homosexuality is a mental illness, not that some ill gotten lesbian couple decided to alter the hormonal balance of their child.

See, this is my problem with religion. It convinces people that they have the right to look down in judgment on others, while at the same time telling them not to be judgmental.

Post all the phoney, hack nonsense you like; it changes nothing. God is dead, and no one cares. There is no never ending paradise. Too many evil wicked things have happened that disprove the omnipotence of your god.

 

Should we similarly be searching for a cure for Hetero men who enjoy oral sex from women? That is abnormal. A mouth is not the intended place for a penis.

Should those men be judged as mentally ill for enjoying such an "abnormal" act?

 

Or women who enjoy the adverse? Or anyone who likes anilingus? Etc?

I mean come on.

The lengths the radical theologians will go to control sex is absolutely ridiculous.

 

So you believe the OT is history?

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It normal for men to want sex with women. Its not normal to want it with other men.

 

It's a creation myth. A good story. One that seems to think it is OK to enslave virginal women and massacre everyone else in the name of an imaginery entity floating in the sky.

For crying out loud, GRRM got more protest against ASOIAF for his depiction of rape, then the bible does for it's acceptance of murder, rape and sex slavery.

It's a book, and like any book, was written by man, and it's a nice enough read, but is not to be taken seriously.

 

What has religion to do with whether or not this is a mental illness?

How can god die if he never existed?

I bet you think everyone who opposes gay marriage does so on religious grounds as well.

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Considering the majority of men practice this its hardly abnormal.

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See it means nothing. Its more parables.

 

Why is it normal to put a penis in a woman's mouth but not a man's mouth?

How is one a mental illness and not the other? In both cases you have a penis being inserted into an "unnatural" orifice.

 

If you dont know I cant help you.

 

The majority of men TODAY practice it. Are you acknowledging that normal/abnormal are entirely based on norms that can change and that it may well be perfectly acceptable for people to have gay sex in the future?

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How about you answer the question instead of trying to dodge it?

 

Oral sex is not a modern construct. Norms are whats normal. If the majority of men one day decide they want sex with other men then it will be normal. Now its far from that and i doubt human nature will change.

I answered it before you asked. Its normal for men to want sex with women including oral sex. What makes something normal is it being practiced by the vast majority people and accepted as normal. Thats what makes religion normal even if it is delusional.

 

Anal sex with men is not a modern construct either.

Then normal is a perfectly useless word to use. By that definition, being left handed or eating sushi is "abnormal". Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) cares? It has no value.

And if you are going to go back to the natural vs unnatural argument, I would like to direct you back to men putting their penises in women's mouths.

 

male/female sex is normal and for Christians, not a sin

Nobody denies you your free will to go and have as much gay sex as you want.

 

Stop injecting religious hysterics into these discussions. It is unhelpful, and those of us who don't agree with any form of celestial North Korea don't give a damn what your religion considers a sin.

I care to discuss facts. Not hyperbolic creation myths replete with hypocrisy and genocide.

 

But it has never been normal . Yes being left handed is abnormal . But you cant choose to be left handed. You can choose to be homosexual or misguided into believing you are simply because as a teen you enjoyed having another guy give you head. Women can be very intimidating to some boys. Plus their hormones are raging.

I dindt say natural I said normal. Cannibalism is natural.

 

Except you would like for those who it to be branded as mentally ill with all the legal consequences, to include imprisonment, that implies.

Your ilk used to lock gays in prison and mental institutions. If you had your way, Lawrence v Texas would have never occurred and you'd still be able to lock gays up for violating "Sodomy Laws".