2 Arab-Israelis booted from Greek plane after Jewish passengers cry ‘terrorists’

2 Arab-Israelis booted from Greek plane after Jewish passengers cry ‘terrorists’

Greek company Aegean Airlines says it was forced to make two Arab-Israelis disembark from a flight, after two Jewish passengers accused them of being terrorists and incited other passengers to demand their departure.
An argument broke out between the Arab and Jewish men on Monday’s return of a tourist flight to Tel Aviv from Athens, and lasted for an hour. Aegean said that their crew could not follow the row in Hebrew, but that the Jewish men appealed "very vocally and persistently" to conduct additional security checks on the Arabs.

The background check produced no red flags, and the crew returned, attempting to get the parties to simmer down, with the plane running over an hour behind schedule.

"Unfortunately by that time, due to the delay, a much larger group of passengers were reacting despite the assurances given by the crew about the two passengers. So with the agreement of the two [Arab] Israeli passengers that were affected, for which we are very thankful, we offered them overnight stay and transport the next day, we offloaded their luggage. We also offered any other passenger of course the possibility to disembark in case they did not feel secure," said a statement from Aegean.

Even with their adversaries off the plane, the Jewish Israelis continued to demand the detention of the Arabs until they were warned they would also be forced off the plane, without a replacement ticket.

The two men settled down and the flight arrived in Tel Aviv without incident, with the Arab Israeli men following them the next day.

Aegean admitted that the Jewish accusers may have been “racially profiling” the Arab men, and labeled the incident “very unfortunate.”

But the left-wing Knesset party Meretz said it would not let it slide, calling for a parliamentary committee meeting.

"I can't be that a commercial company, which has signed aviation agreements with Israel, allows itself to disembark passengers based on their physical appearance at the demands of other passengers," said deputy Michal Rozin.

Amnesty International’s Israeli office acknowledged tension following a string of lone wolf attacks by Palestinians on Jews, but blamed the Israeli government for fostering a climate of paranoia.

"People should not be surprised by such shameful acts when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stands at the forefront of incitement and the racist narrative against an entire sector of society,” said Yonatan Gher, who heads the human rights group in Israel.

 

I don't know about name calling, but the smartest thing Israel ever did was build that wall. It keeps the terrorists out.

 

I don't know about name calling, but the smartest thing Israel ever did was build that wall. It keeps the terrorists out.

Actually it was built to stop the Pal snipers...

... from shooting people on the road it protects...

... if it were to keep the terrorists out...

... there wouldn't be the stabbings of late.

 

Jews in Israel are modern day colonists and Palestinian are the Natives who defend themselves. You know how Native Americans resorted to raiding towns? In there eyes, there were no such thing as "innocent civilians" They are being oppressed, killed, and and have their land taken by the colonists. All colonists are guilty.


The root of the problem was that once Israel started to buy up all the land, they expelled people who lived there for hundreds of years. Not only did they expell them, they denied them any of political rights and took away their right to self determine. They continued to colonies. Along the way, they massacred entire towns. They lined up men, woman, and children alike and shot them.They bulldozed many others towns.

Over 700,000 Palestinians fled in terror and Israel still refuse them their right to return to their homes.

Then it they launched an attack on them back in 67 and took even more land.

Now Gaza will be uninhabitable in the next few years.

After that they continued to demolish more homes and apartment buildings to make room for Jewish settlement. This is a war crime

Just like early American colonist called Indians "saveges", Zions Jews, being the colonists, are calling them "terrorist"


They have created these terroristsites through their colonisation,opression, massacre, expultions, and ethnic cleansing.

 

That's horse pucky.

The Palestinian Arab is not indigenous to Israel. The Jewish people, including what was then a sect of Judaism, Christianity, on the other hand is as supported by abundant archaeological artifacts and historical records.

There are no records to support the Palestinian Arab claim, not in history, art or literature. There is no trace at all of any Muslim people referred to by anybody as “Palestinians.”

It was the 19th and 20th century Jewish settlement and job opportunities that drew wave after waves of Arab immigrants to Palestine.

“The Arab population shows a remarkable increase ….. partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the [Jewish] National Home..”

(The Peel Commission Report - 1937)

“.. far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country [Palestine]..”
~ Winston Churchill.

Before the Six Day War in 1967 Jordan controlled the West Bank and Egypt ruled Gaza, there was never any suggestion on the part of the "Palestinians" that they wanted independence in their ancestral homeland. The "Palestinian" nation hadn't been invented yet.

Before the State of Israel was reborn, the term "Palestinians" was used by the Jews. “The Palestine Post”, the Palestine Foundation Fund, Palestine Airways, and the Palestine Symphony Orchestra were all purely Jewish enterprises.

Arabs began to be called "Palestinians" when Nasser and the KGB established the "Palestine Liberation Organization" in 1964. In the 1970s the newly named “Palestinians” began their program of murder and assassination including the murder at the Munich Olympics and the assassination of RFK.

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere.”
~ Mark Twain on Israel

The mass of "Palestinians" Arabs in Israel today immigrated there recently with the claim of being a separate people called "Palestinians" invented in the 1960's.

 

You fail.

Early History of the Region​

Before the Hebrews first migrated there around 1800 B.C., the land of Canaan was occupied by Canaanites.

“Between 3000 and 1100 B.C., Canaanite civilization covered what is today Israel, the West Bank, Lebanon and much of Syria and Jordan...Those who remained in the Jerusalem hills after the Romans expelled the Jews [in the second century A.D.] were a potpourri: farmers and vineyard growers, pagans and converts to Christianity, descendants of the Arabs, Persians, Samaritans, Greeks and old Canaanite tribes.” Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, “Their Promised Land.”

The present-day Palestinians’ ancestral heritage

“But all these [different peoples who had come to Canaan] were additions, sprigs grafted onto the parent tree...And that parent tree was Canaanite...[The Arab invaders of the 7th century A.D.] made Moslem converts of the natives, settled down as residents, and intermarried with them, with the result that all are now so completely Arabized that we cannot tell where the Canaanites leave off and the Arabs begin.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.”

The Jewish kingdoms were only one of many periods in ancient Palestine

“The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David’s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.”

More on Canaanite civilization

“Recent archeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined...Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around 1800 BCE.” The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st, 1998.

How long has Palestine been a specifically Arab country?

“Palestine became a predominately Arab and Islamic country by the end of the seventh century. Almost immediately thereafter its boundaries and its characteristics — including its name in Arabic, Filastin — became known to the entire Islamic world, as much for its fertility and beauty as for its religious significance...In 1516, Palestine became a province of the Ottoman Empire, but this made it no less fertile, no less Arab or Islamic...Sixty percent of the population was in agriculture; the balance was divided between townspeople and a relatively small nomadic group. All these people believed themselves to belong in a land called Palestine, despite their feelings that they were also members of a large Arab nation...Despite the steady arrival in Palestine of Jewish colonists after 1882, it is important to realize that not until the few weeks immediately preceding the establishment of Israel in the spring of 1948 was there ever anything other than a huge Arab majority. For example, the Jewish population in 1931 was 174,606 against a total of 1,033,314.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

 

It's a scary thought that anyone could point a finger at someone on any airline and say the word "terrorist" and the authorities will swarm on that individual.

 

Yes, nomadic peoples (Arabs) tend not to leave much in the way of archaeology. Sorry but this historical excuse means nothing. Jews were absent from Palestine for 2000 years. Does the Roman coin I found mean that Italy can lay claim to Britain again?

 

Of course they are indigenous to Palestine.. Arabs have been in Palestine and the Levant for a thousand years before Islam.. Read your Bible. Abraham and Moses had Arab wives. Ezra fusses about Arabs in Jerusalem after the Babylonian exile.

Sargon 2 settle four Arab tribes in Samaria circa 700 BC.

 

You refuted nothing. You pretended the Palestinian's were the ancient Canaanites and then provided no factual basis for your wild assertions. Your claim has no support that an equally wild claim, that the Palestinian's are the ancient Philistines, late coming seafaring people, wouldn't have, and that one has no support either.

The Jewish and Christian claim to these lands though, runs long and deep. It is easily verified in archaeology, art, history and literature.

I gave you several lines of support for the fact that the "Palestinian Arab" is nothing more than a recently concocted myth made up of recently arriving Arab immigrants and you haven't touched any of them.

 

How does an Israeli lose an argument with many liberal Democrats?

Answer: By saying he/she is an Israeli Jew.

 

The reason the area became primarily Arab by the end of the 7th century was the slaughtering of Jews and forced conversions of Christians and Jews by Muslim attrocities, which that other member apparently cheers or claims is a valid claim of legitimacy. Nor will you read that member has moved from the USA as his part to return the USA to Native Americans.

Like many liberals, he claims that there is no place on earth that is for Jews, nowhere whatsoever. Anti-semitism is horrifically on the rise again in the West. Hating Jews is the oldest bigotry in the world and resurfaces over and over and over.

 

That isn't the production of evidence, that is an explanation for the lack of evidence of the fictional "Palestinian Arab" indigenous to Israel and since there is no such creature, there is a easier explanation for the complete lack of evidence, it's a myth. Coupled with the fact that all the way to 1960 there is no evidence to support the existence of the "Palestinian Arab" because they had not been invented yet.

You say they were Nomads and so left no evidence. Fine. A hundred years ago, how many of them lived in the land Israel, Gaza and the West Bank? Assuming a normal rate of Population growth, how many should there be there now? And why are there many million fold more? Because they are the result of massive recent waves of migration, they are not "indigent" at all.

No they weren't. As easily verified by Art, Literature and archaeology. There has never been a time in the 3,000 years that Jews didn't live in the lands of Israel and Greater Israel.

Of course not, and even that weak claim is much stronger than the wildly unsupportable claim that the recently minted "Palestinian Arab" is indigenous to Israel. It's nonsense. Ask anyone you know over the age of 65: "When did you first hear of the Palestinian Arab"? For some, it will be the 1972 slaughter of the Jewish Athletes at the Munich Olympics. For others it will be the assassination of RFK in Los Angeles in 1968. You will find no one that ever heard the term prior to the 1960's. Arafat just died a decade or so ago, everyone knows he was an Egyptian.

You guys will swallow anything. A baited hook is waste of bait for you guys.

 

Another fail to support the concept that the "Palestinian Arab" is indigenous to Israel. Your post much better supports the claim that all Semitic People are indigenous to the Middle East. But such a claim would equally support the Semitic claims of BOTH Israeli's and the recently minted "Palestine Arab" so it doesn't help you very much. In fact, you post strongly supports the Jewish claim to areas in Baghdad and Iran that they also were settled in, continuously, for many thousand years.

In this myth that you have bought hook line and sinker, the Palestinian takes the place of the American Indian and the Jewish People take the place of the arriving Europeans to America. It's utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and there is no use pretending otherwise. The "Palestinian Arab" is a myth created in the last 50 years or so, and I refuse to believe myths until they are much much older than that.

See, and in case you are struggling to make the connection, they have nice photos to help you with it. One can almost feel the rumble of the ancient buffalo, and the piercing war cries: Wah! Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah! The "Palestinian Arab" is a recently manufactured myth, nothing more.

 

I provided alot of historic fact ther. And what I'm saying is obvious.

The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years.

 

How long do you expect the reigns of a father and son team to last? 73 years isn't bad for the unification of 12 different tribes. But after the Republic split into two groups, they still persisted in the area for another 3,000 years, continuous to the present day. The "Palestinian Arab" on the other hand is a fairly recent invention circa the 1960's. That is why you can find no evidence for the "Palestinian Arab" in the lands of Greater Israel prior to 1960. But, you can find evidence of continuous settlement by Jews in the area for over 3,000 years and continuous Christian settlement for 2,000 years. But the "Palestinian Arab"? Nothing beyond about 50 years ago.

 

When Moses moved onto the land, and the butcher Joshua began slaughtering entire villages of men, women and children, certainly there had to be men, women and children already on the land waiting to be slaughtered. According the the Bible (I am not a big believer, btw) the ethnic cleansing started early on. Am I not correct?

 

Arab-a member of a Semitic people, originally from the Arabian peninsula and neighboring territories, inhabiting much of the Middle East and North Africa.

The Babylinians who conquered the Jewish kingdom were not Arabs since they didn't inhabit the Arabian Peninsula.

After the Persians conquered Babylon, Cyrus issued a proclamation granting subjugated nations their freedom.

In 332 BCE the Persians were defeated by Alexander the Great. After his death in 322 BCE, his generals divided the empire between them and Judea became the frontier between the Seleucid Empire and Ptolemaic Egypt, but in 198 Judea was incorporated into the Seleucid Kingdom.

In 63 BCE the Roman general Pompey sacked Jerusalem and made the Jewish kingdom a client of Rome. The situation was not to last, as the deaths of Pompey in 48 BCE and Caesar in 44 BCE, together with the related Roman civil wars, relaxed Rome's grip on Judea.

In 131, Emperor Hadrian renamed Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina and constructed a Temple of Jupiter on the site of the former Jewish temple. Jews were banned from Jerusalem and Roman Judaea was renamed Syria Palaestina, from which derived "Palestine" in English and "Filistin" in Arabic.

Early in the 4th century, Roman Empire split and Constantinople became the capital of the East Roman Empire known as the Byzantine Empire. Under the Byzantines, Christianity, dominated by the (Greek) Orthodox Church, was adopted as the official religion. Jerusalem became a Christian city and Jews were still banned from living there.

Jews probably constituted the majority of the population of Palestine until the 4th-century, when Constantine converted to Christianity.

In 611, Sassanid Persia invaded the Byzantine Empire. In 613, a Jewish revolt against the Byzantine Empire joined forces with these Persian invaders to capture Jerusalem in 614. The great majority of Christians in Jerusalem were subsequently deported to Persia. The Jews gained autonomy in Jerusalem, until in 617 when the Persians betrayed agreements and withdrew their forces from the region. With return of the Byzantines in 628, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius promised to restore Jewish rights and received Jewish help in ousting the Persians with the aid of Jewish leader Benjamin of Tiberias. Heraclius later reneged on the agreement after reconquering Palestine by issuing an edict banning Judaism from the Byzantine Empire and thousands of Jewish refugees fled to Egypt, following Byzantine and Ghassanid perpetrated massacres across the Galilee and Jerusalem.

In 638 CE, the Byzantine Empire lost the Levant to the Arab Islamic Empire. According to Moshe Gil, at the time of the Arab conquest in 7th century, the majority of the population was Jewish or Samaritan. According to one estimate, the Jews of Palestine numbered between 300,000 and 400,000 at the time. After the conquest, the majority of the population (probably including many Jews) became Arabized in culture and language, many also adopting the new faith of Islam.

You see how wrong you were chaps? Israel became predominantly Christian. And that was when Arabs (Islamic this time)

But let's go over an important point really quick

The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years

Christians had a much longer Rule. Perhaps Christians should start colonising Israel because they once ruled there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

 

No

In 131, Emperor Hadrian renamed Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina and constructed a Temple of Jupiter on the site of the former Jewish temple. Jews were banned from Jerusalem and Roman Judaea was renamed Syria Palaestina, from which derived "Palestine" in English and "Filistin" in Arabic.

Byzantine Rule lasted longer than the Jewish Rule. Then the Islamic Arabs conquered them.

 

Since the Christian rule of Jerusalem is longer than the Jewish rule, perhaps Christian start colonising Israel. Jews shouldnt have a complaint right? After all, they find every excuse in the book to rationalize their actions. If they don't think colonization is wrong, then they shouldn't have a problem with being colonized themselves.

 

Jews bought the land. It's theirs. They paid for it and they can do what they want with it. No one was forced to sell it to them.

When two societies meet, inevitably the stronger society survives. This is just Darwinism. I thought liberals hated God and loved Darwin.

 

Ask where he claims the Jewish homeland is and he'll avoid the question as his position is that its nowhere.

 

It's a simple difference ... one group deliberately targets civilians and the other protects them.

For the Jew haters who can't figure that out perhaps a simple picture will help.

 

Id like to explain to you something.

Fist let me explain. JEW IS NOT A RACE. Its a religion and a culture. Zionist make their territorial demand based a 73 year rule.

Everyone who lives in Palestine share the same ancestral heritage. That means that both Muslims and Jews are the same race. They all stem from Canaanite civilization. When a portion of the that race (Jews Religion) They were expelled by Babylonians and later by Byzantines, they lost that land.

Consider this relevant scenario.

During Natzi reign, Jews fled in droves'

If this was 500 years later, Do you think that Jews would have any moral or political right to Rule Germany simply because they once occupied it HUNDREDS of years ago? No, such right does not exist under the umbrella of politics and morality. It can only exist under the umbrella of religion.

We can apply the same to Jerusalem. Do you think that the religious group has a right to establish itself as a ruling body simply because they inhabited it HUNDREDS of years ago?

In reality, ALL Zionists are foreign invaders. Some fled from fled from Europe, some from Russia. These Jews understood their position as being foreign refugees. And that's what they were. It wasn't until the new found Zionist movement began to establish itself as a ruling body did any opposition happen.

So while foreign Zionist Jews tried to claim the land as their own, simply because of religion, the Jews who were already living in Palestine, were against it. Generally, Orthodox Jews are opposed to the Zionist movement. Remember that Zionism is a new movement. So while the Jews who were living in the middle east opposed them, Holocaust survivors condemned them.

Does that answer your question?

Jew is a religion and a culture. To ask where the Jewish homeland is, is to ask where the christian homeland is.

Do Christians have a homeland? Their homeland is where ever they live.

Zionists are foreign invader hell bent on a destruction and expulsion of a whole people simply because of their religion.

People often bring up "Muslim extremist" or maybe even "Christians extremists". But no one seem to mention "Jewish extremist" which might be the most extreme of all. Foreign Zionist invaders, in this modern era, are willing to displace and entire native population for nothing more than their misguided religious ideals. They have massacred many towns for no other reason other than to cause a panic. And when over 700,000 Palestinians fled in terror, they went in and made it impossible to return by demolition or other means.

 

history says the Jews lived in Germany and migrated to the Middle east and created a new land called Israel less then 100 years ago

the conflict is a simple one, Israel is a growing people, they are expanding, and that is causing growing pains as it expands

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