CO2 levels higher than any time in last 800,000 years

AboveAlpha, I have a graphic that shows it's already starting.

I don't remember what article this was from but a cold zone has already formed over the Atlantic Ocean.


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Nice Chart Wga!!

If you notice under the area of Record Cold there are large areas of Record Warmth.

You right....this mean's the Heat Transfer system is beginning to STALL.

Right under Greenland should be a long area of white.

But instead the Cold Water is just stalling as Cold Fresh Water Melt is causing a Desalinization Problem as too much Cold Fresh Water is stalling the same weight Hot Salt Water from moving North.

Nice catch but it's depressing as HELL!

AA

 

Someone addressed your objection in another forum. I guess you're too ignorant to realize that climate change research involes more than just climatologists. The list also includes several other disciplines, including geologists and astronamers. I believe I saw quite a few of both of them on that list. If ridicule, based on ignorance, is all you have then you've got nothing.

Edit: I don't know if it was the same list, but the one I saw didn't have the spice girls on it. I assume you were being serious. Hard to tell with liberals, since they'll believe anything, as long as it's against God and liberty.

 

Read these peer reviewed scientific papers by the world's top climate scientist.

http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/PublicationsRSL.html

Let me ask you this question.

Are you sincere that you believe man is not able to control weather yet you believe he can control climate?

Do you believe man can control weather?

If you think he can, why isn't he?

Matter of fact, if he can control climate, why isn't he controlling it?

 

Because it is outlawed by UN Treaty.

The United States Military conducted Weather Experiments back in the 1960's and 1970's and we were able to change the course of large Tropical Storms by simply SEEDING the outside cloud walls of a Tropic Depression.

This made the cloud walls rain out and decreased them on the side of the Tropical depression was seeded and this CHANGED THE DIRECTION OF THE STORM.

This was BANNED by a U.N. Directive as if we changed the direction of a storm to not hit one area it would instead hit another area.

It was deemed to be a form of WAR.

AA

 

First time I heard that being one of the Spice girls gave you an ability to work out climate science

Yes there are a lot of disciplines involved in climate science which is why the WORLD wide (as opposed to a misleading mail out in America) number of scientists involved are tens of thousands (don't believe me? Check out the list of contributing authors to the IPCC and realise that only about 1:10 scientists were involved) The Oregon petition was a joke - at one point it was open online for anyone to sign - as many times as you wanted to. I signed in under "Edward Kelly" who was better known as Ned Kelly famous Australian Bush Ranger

It has been debunked more times than a drunken sailor trying to sleep through a cyclone

 

Yeah - great list - this is sooooo climate science oriented

32. (1969) The latke, the hamantasch and the (m)oral crisis in the university. The Jewish Digest, 15, 55-58. [pdf]


But that aside Lindzen is less criticised for his body of work than for his acceptance of fossil fuel industry money and the fact that his main theory has subsequently proven to be bull(*)(*)(*)(*)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_S._Lindzen

 

There is no consensus on global warming. Here...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...ic-global-warming-consensus-not/#24d190ee1690

Educate yourselves. Your ignorance offends me.

 

Well, if man can't control weather, he is out of luck controlling climate.

 

I am surprised that lie about Dr. Lindzen is still being used.

 

32 is a spoof.

Why didn't you look it?

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Ned Kelly the criminal was hung in the late 1800s.

 

If this happens, and I agree with you that might have already started, it would lead to cooler temperatures only in some areas like Europe. The rest of the world would continue to warm, so there wouldn't be any accelerated Ice Age.

 

No, the Environmental Modification Convention only banned weather modification for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction. Weather modification can still be used for other purposes, like when China tried to prevent rain during the 2008 Olympics or when Dubai tried to bring rain to the desert near Al Ain.

 

Duh! Which is why I used the name when "signing" his petition - and it was accepted

Proof the "petition" of "scientists" was nothing more than an internet scam

The Oregon petition is easy to debunk - pick a name at random - google that name. Academics are easy to find because they have to publish

 

I have given the source - up to you to refute it with something more than "I don't think so"

 

A few scientists have requested their names be removed from the political IPCC document. The IPCC does no science itself. It is a political organization created by government that certainly gets things wrong and why they finally dumped the hockystick (very sexy for the agenda but bad science).

 

You want to argue that IPCC is a political organization, fine. The difference is, you and Faux are too. How many Nobel Prizes have your scientists produced. How many have the scientistific organization's that agree with CC produced . How many have actually served the betterment of mankind. These scientists, figuratively save lives everyday.
Yours are lunatics, obstructionists and liars and are bought and paid for by the likes of the Koch brothers, one of the bigger polluters of our environment known. Side with the polluters, go for it.

 

LOL, so scientists that produce inconvenient science are all lunatics? You need to get out more.

 

FACT. The Oregon petition requires NO verification. Anyone can claim to be anything and just sign their name. It is useless. One guy even got Charles Darwin listed on it. But the star wars characters are my favorites. LOL

 

If you feel the need to fake your own name, .....

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Who do you suppose puts down a fake name but Democrats? Would communists do that too?

 

Why do Democrats bring up the Koch brothers all the time?

There is no proof of mal intention by them offered as proof.

Don't you feel a duty to be factual?

Actually your posts give me that answer.

Everybody knows that climate is long range. How can you predict long range when you can't predict past a week or two?

Here is the thing though in a nutshell.

Climate always is changing. And the change always changes.

 

When did you confirm this with Dr. Lindzen?

I talked to him.

He denies the alleged report.

There is no valid reason why I use you as my expert over him.

 

So you suppose no one lies about their qualifications because they want to support their cause? Please.....

 

Democrats are admitting they lie. And you appear to approve.

 

I see no proof to anything you have said