Brussels Massacre guarantees the UK will leave the EU!

It brings the whole migration crisis into sharper relief.

 

Because you are confusing the free movement of EU nationals, who can only enter the UK with a EU passport and external refugees who cannot enter the UK via Europe. That is why you have the scenes of immigrants from outside the UK trying to smuggle themselves into the UK. Only the UK and Ireland insist on passport control once you are in the UK.

 

Only in part economic. Cultural / social is a big aspect.

 

I did? Golly. Gosh. I wasn't aware of that. Is it my cricket playing you object to?

Might I ask that you put back on your little boy pants again -the world is desperate for a period of long period of peace. But your dogs of war armaments factories and war lord at neocon central won't allow it. Should I send a donation do you think?

 

Clearly defined and enforced national boarders, cultures, laws and customs turns this American on. There are some on this side of the pond that want the US to enter into a North American Union similar to the EU. Hell no!

 

Explain

 

Aside from all this tangential nonsense, your argument is summed as this (predictably): "Dat biggitry."

Do you realize this isn't an argument?

How does this deflective ad hominem tu quoque cover a religion which has violent teachings from its prophet, demands its adherents copy on threat of hellfire, and has spent the past 1,400 years invading much of the world around it?

Ad hominem tu quoque is a logical fallacy, not a rebuttal.

But leave it to Leftists to trash US Cold War policy.

Also off topic and has nothing to do with your poor comparisons of a border wall equaling the Berlin wall or a scary police state of your choice. False analogy.

This is supposed to be a rebut of what?

 

34 murdered, Obama goes to baseball game

 

I try not to be one of those annoying internet people who get offended by everything, but that's a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ing offensive thing to say to someone from a Muslim family living in Europe and (gasp) not blowing things up, just like millions of other Muslim families who are not as disconnected and alienated as the ones who turn to terrorism. If we want Muslims to culturally assimilate and be happy, fulfilled and productive, we have to actually allow them to do so, not shut them up in filthy ghettos like Courcouronnes and be xenophobic pricks.

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I was unaware that this thread had anything much to do with America.

 

I don't care what Muslims want or how offended you get.

 

It's all the West's fault, of course.

The Muslim invasion of Spain was because Bush.
The Siege of Vienna was because Bush.

If we don't admit this, we're in denial of reality. You see, a lot of people of certain Left wing political persuasions who have never studied the Islamic faith or Western history beyond ZMag or Noam Chomsky know precisely what's going on here.

We should listen to them.

 

In 92 days I expect YOU to be the one creating the thread where you admit you were a fool.

 

In other words, you want Europe to be xenophobic, culturally homogenous and static, like it was in the Middle Ages.

Part of the essential cultural character of Europe (at least Western Europe) is now its tolerance, liberal internationalism and status as a dynamic melting pot. It may have its problems, but scapegoating immigrants will do nothing to get rid of them and will only distract from the material problems at hand.

Europe has also been repeatedly invaded by Christians, and the Arab world could have said the exact thing about Christians invading their lands a few centuries ago. People migrate. That's a fact of life, and a welcome one, given how much progress globalisation has driven over the last couple of centuries.

 

Sorry that last line should read, Only the UK and Ireland insist on passport control once you are in the EU
Noticed the mistake too late for edit.

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You've never seen me gloat pal..........only the weak sister rules of this website will save you.
I can't wait for the EU to collapse.........and all these Euro-leftists are gonna choke on it.........along with US liberals like you.

 

nothing its just how it works. The number one issue is immigration and the refugee crisis and it alrady blew up in merkels face at least twice.

 

I've told you before madam, and I'm sorry to have to repeat it publicly here, but I'm not like that. I'm a happily married man. Besides which I have an appointment with my surgery nurse for my regular polish and spit. God bless the National Health!

Now, what were you saying about a re-butt?

 

So now Muslims are sub-human. The 14th century called; it wants its ideology back.

 

Do you care that you based an entire thread on a fact you got wrong?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

 

Oh no, the label barrage!!!!! I am always very impressed with how people on the political Left, seemingly lacking a coherent argument, argue in these little labels and slurs which although coined for political usage within the last few decades, are somehow Great Truths of the Universe from On High we must all make a top priority to avoid being labeled as.

The diversity in humanity that you and yours claim to admire actually comes from having historically homogenous homelands. Indeed, you and yours have no problem with such homelands when it comes to dark-skinned "indigenous peoples" who want to keep out Western incursions. Only in the reverse do the ideological fainting episodes begin. Where are you and yours making excuses for European Colonialism into Africa on account of the "culturally homogenous and static" condition of pre-European African tribes? After all, the white people brought all kinds of interesting things with them, and who are the Africans to behave like a bunch of xenophobes?

What exactly is wrong with a world of diverse homelands? Are you also threatened by diverse habitats for animals as well, being seized by an insatiable desire to throw lions into a habitat with lambs because of your Utopian ideals?

Odd because you aren't showing any tolerance toward the preservation of indigenous ethnocultural groups and national boundaries. So I think you mean the "tolerance" is rather xenocentrism combined with leukophobia, since you like to argue in slur terms. Yes we know -- Africa for Africans, Europe for everyone. "Enlightenment" according to the post-modern view, is for people of European descent to commit ethnocultural suicide and give all they have to low-accomplishing dark races.

My pointing out after years of studying the Islamic religion that it is a violent faith which explains why Europeans keep being invaded by these people is not "scapegoating." What material problems at hand? Muslims have lived 1,400 years off of the pillage of Dhimmi and have done little to innovate in their own lands. They've possessed nearly everything from Morocco to Pakistan for centuries. If they can't make it work in that large living space, that is not our problem to solve. You seem to think being "tolerant" equals being the world's welfare benefits teat.

Muslims are serial whiners. They DO whine that Christians "invaded their land," except that Christians didn't; rather, Muslims kept invading Europe and the Holy Land, and the Europeans formed peasant armies to throw them out.

If you wish to be an apologist for the Islamic faith, then get off your butt and study the religion rather than tossing the usual religious relativist/ad hominem tu quoque that the uneducated secular Western self-loathing Left toss around like candy.

Let's repeat: Europe has no more obligation to let in swarms of bottom feeders than the countries these bottom feeders came from are obligated to let in European gold-seekers. Oddly, you can understand that in one direction, but not both.

Bigoted much?

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No, they just act it due to the barbaric teachings of their faith.

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Deflective mocking pseudohumor - apparently now combined with a lack of basic education in the English language - isn't a defense of your argument.

Let us know when you can resume an adult conversation because you oddly aren't willing to right now.

"Dat biggited!!!" <--- I'm impressed.

 

If the EU collapses it will not collapse because of the reason you stated in this thread though will it?

 

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What has this to do with the Schengen Agreement which you wrongly said the UK was a part of and stated was the reason the UK would leave and the EU would colaspse.

Are you now accepting you were wrong?

 

"Please" not in the vocab bank?

Cultural and social issues are as important to many people, affects on public services, the NHS, fractured communities. Suchlike.

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Leftist priorities. Be fair.

 

Okay, I accept and understand that. It's difficult to cram an awful lot of contentious history into a single post. What is happening in Europe is almost certainly a new strategy of tension. Of course there is little proof of that. But there are indications if you know what you're looking at. And I've covered all this before many times on this forum anyway.

Today's bombings are linked to the arrest of Salah Abdeslam a few days ago. I posted links on this forum earlier showing images of said alleged terrorist's arrest. You might anyway wish to comb the internet and look at the various still pictures and videos of this and ask yourself some questions.

Like why was the alleged Abdeslam allowed to leave the building by the armed police officer standing at the doorway to stop just that sort of thing - and then a few seconds later appeared to shoot him in the leg. You might, like me, ask why the said alleged Abdeslam was wearing a white hat and immediately turned away so that his face remained obscured from the camera when he (easily) left the building and was captured by police (there was no chance of escape). You might ask why the police then proceeded to place his hoodie over his head (the cap having been knocked of in his arrest) after capture so that his face remained obscured throughout the filming.

You might ask. But most people won't.

Then you might want to bone up on the wiki page on "strategy of tension" and "Gladio". You also might want to view wiki's page on "the Wolfowitz Doctrine" and pay close attention to what it says there about the US strategy to ensure no "rival" be allowed to emerge (or to use Wolfowitz's actual word "re-emerge") elsewhere in the world and how this was a "dominant consideration" of the doctrine. This includes allies and enemies equally. You might also want to read the NY Times article of 8th March 1992 titled US Strategy Plans Call for Insuring No Rivals Develop - including in "Western Europe" (i.e., the EU bloc).

You might then consider the curiosity that just down the road from Brussels centre is NATO and SHAEF headquarters - the headquarters of Operation Gladio. And if you really cared to, you could look at the SHAEF logo and notice that the upward thrusting sword was a Roman Gladius sword (or at least it used to be) where Gladio-us was the diminutive form of that word.

And then you could spend an awful long time digging back into the records and accounts and see how this all came about. And connect the dots. As in SHAEF is American. And NATO is commanded and control by the US.

And then ponder if replacing cold war red brigades bogeymen with Islamic terrorist bogeymen actually is any difference at all - if the underlying stratagy remains the same?

Or, like so many here, you can just simply drop it and turn your attention to something completely different.

No disrespect intended btw.