WISE Founder Teaches Muslim Women Self Defense To Protect Against Hate Crimes

You've got me all wrong as "you" mostly always do get me all wrong.....

I'm obsessed with that number because like a lot of these stories that come out of the UK about Muslims I find this one about one million kids being raped by Muslims incredibly hard to believe, and I am really toning down what I really feel here.

This number is so insane, and such bull-chit that I'm beyond flabbergasted that the person that put it out there had the stones to ever do it in the first place. Hell, he deserves an award for "Cojones of the Galaxy" if nothing else.

A few hundred, ok. (a horrible thing)

A few thousand, hard to imagine but, ok. (still a horrible thing)

Tens of thousands, my logic is really being pushed hard to believe it but, ok. (my God what a horrible thing)

One Million.........not today, not yesterday, not next week, not last week, not last month, not last year, not ever, and yes, I'm calling bull-chit on it.

Satisfied now, or do you still think that I think any abuse done to a child is ok?

I'll be sure to share your "joke" of an assumption with my daughter & grandson next time I see them...............

 

Dutch, just for 2 seconds I'm going to ask you to let go of this fixation you have with......"The Knockout Game"

Please just answer some straight forward questions here without saying the words................"The Knockout Game"

One, if this were your 16 year old daughter would you be upset, would you be mad, would you be concerned with whatever the reasons were that she was knocked down to the ground that violently?

Two, if the answer to any of those questions was: "yes, I would be upset" - would you really give a good Godamn about........a f*cking Knockout Game?

Three, does it bother you at all, in the slightest bit, that this girl was violated this way, and does it bother you on an emotional level to watch the video, or at least, did it move you to anger the first time you saw it?

I'll be waiting for your answers.....

 

Sundance, how's it hanging buddy???

Horrible thing that happened in Brussels wasn't it, I can't say that I was surprised to see it, but it bothered me just the same the way all of these attacks bother me.

These people need to be round up, and thrown off that same cliff that Butch & Sundance jumped off all those years ago in the movie, except they need to land on rocks instead of water.

I know how you feel, I know where you are, I just wanted to say hi.................so..................hi..............

 

I think you & I are starting to get our cars on the same road...............

Now if we can just point them at everybody else while we kick the worlds @$$ together- then we'd really be cooking with gas.....

Just think if every single one of us got on the same page, and said no to hate..........there's no army or nation or super power that could stop us, and we could get rid of all these bad people in the process.

Win/win brother..............win/win............

 

Saudi= Islam???

 

There's nothing for me to answer here, except to set the record straight again - the OP is wrong, and this attack has nothing to do with woman being Muslim. Period. Yea sure, the attack was horrible, but that's not why I'm fixating on in this thread.

I hope I made myself clear.

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I must be getting soft with age...

 

Dutch your so close, your so close that it's scary..........

I'll help you across the finish line........."it.........was.......horrible.........and.........it..........really............bothered.............me"

Four little words and you are HOME...................

I know it bother's you Dutch, you don't have to say it, it's cool, but I know it bother's you.

You'd have to be a robot with a mechanism for a heart not to be bothered by that.

I've seen people get positively slammed in the enlisted men's club back in Camp Geiger many, many moons ago after a few pints of beer went down, but I've never in my life seen anything as disgusting as what that animal did to that girl.

No, your getting wiser, as we all are...............

Good Night Dutch...................

 

LOL @ Muslim propaganda thread, while they're killing innocent people in Belgium

Actually, it's not funny, it's kind of sick

Like Islam.

 

Sweden quintessentially exemplifies the proverb 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.'

 

You are ignorant of the facts.

The rape gang operated in Rotherham, UK, from 1997 to 2013. The formal investigation determined at least 1,400 children had been raped by the group over that period.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

Prof Jay said: "No-one knows the true scale of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years. Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013."

Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered."

The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone".
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That's just one town and its already into your "hard to imagine" threshold.

Open your eyes. Islam is the scourge of civilization.

People who defend Islam and refuse to admit and rebuke islams barbaric practices are enablers and share in the guilt of these abhorrent practices.

 

First, I don't defend rapist, pedophiles, lunatics, maniacs, or any terrorist's of any kind. Surely you've seen enough of my posts in here to know that, and I know you know better so don't make yourself look like an @$$ by accusing me of these things, and I take EXTREME OFFENSE to it.

I'm a father & a grandfather, and there's an individual "limping" around in NJ to this day, and will be for the rest of his pathetic life thanks to me over giving my daughter a hard time many years ago, so knock it off!!!!

Second, I realize that these numbers are stretched out over time, and yes, one child being victimized is too many.

Third, lets do some simple math here............

1,400 (as in one thousand, four hundred) is absolutely believable because that comes out to roughly seven kids being victimized per month. Very sad & tragic, but also very believable.

1,400.000 (as in one million, four hundred thousand) is a stretch because that comes out to roughly 729 kids per month over a 16 year period.

That comes out to roughly 25 kids per day............

So you want me to believe that Muslims are gang raping 25 children every single dayin that country.............????

Because that's the only way you get to that incredibly "false" number that I'm just not believing.

And nobody has put a stop to it after all these years.........come on man, give me a f*cking break with this bull-chit.

This conversation is over as far as I'm concerned, I'm going to finish my coffee while you clean all of that egg off your face.

Feeling a little foolish now are we, and don't EVER accuse me of supporting or defending these animals again.

Having a difference of opinions over these issues is one thing but don't accuse me of disgusting things, it's beneath you.

 

Good morning Sundance, I see you didn't waste any time posting & basically making the same comments you always make.

Really guy you have to get some new material because it's getting to be a bit stale.

Try jazzing it up a bit or at least changing the wording around a little bit to keep it interesting & exciting.

And why don't we just get this out of the way now as I'm sure any second now your going to start with your:

"where are all the Muslims condemning this stuff" nonsense.

Chicago's Muslim community condemns Brussels terror attacks

CHICAGO (WLS) --
A Chicago-area Muslim group is condemning the terror attacks in Brussels that killed 31 people and wounded scores of others.

The head of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Chicago said his heart and prayers go out to the people of Belgium. He also voiced concern over the political fallout from the attacks.

"Even the mere question, 'Do Muslims condemn this?' to me is an affront to our humanity. It goes without saying. If you look at Facebook, Muslims are only talking about this. They're angry. They're upset, just like anybody else," said Ahmed Rehab, executive director of CAIR-Chicago.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicagos-muslim-community-condemns-brussels-terror-attacks/1258141/

Belgian Muslims condemn attacks, donate blood
Some Muslim leaders voiced concern over possible repercussions and racism against their community.

By Joanna Plucinska
3/22/16, 7:18 PM CET
Updated 3/22/16, 8:32 PM CET

Leading Belgian and European Muslim groups condemned Tuesday’s attacks in Brussels.

“These were barbaric acts,” said Said Kamli, the director of the Federation of Islamic Organisations in Europe, adding that the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and its terrorist activities do not represent Islam. “We do not support people who do these things. We hope they face justice.”

http://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-attacks-islamic-community/

Orange County's Muslim leaders condemn Brussels attack

Orange County’s Muslim leaders strongly condemned the attacks in the Belgian capital of Brussels, Tuesday, that left at least 34 dead and about 230 injured. At the same time, they called for positive action in response to the bombings, for which ISIS claimed responsibility.

“A tragedy like this puts Muslims on the spot,” said Anila Ali, Irvine resident and city council candidate who founded American Muslim Women’s Empowerment Council. “But these attacks are wake-up calls for Muslims. Silence is no longer an option.”

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/attacks-709230-muslim-ayloush.html

Belgian religious groups condemn Brussels attacks

(RNS) Belgian Muslim and Catholic organizations are condemning the terrorist bombings in Brussels.

A statement issued by the Belgian Muslim Executive (EMB) committee, an umbrella group, said the organization “condemns with force and without reservation” what it called “acts of extreme cruelty against innocent civilians.”

“These dramatic events, in the heart of Europe, complicate the efforts of society, of the EMB and the entire Muslim community in favor of a harmonious coexistence,” read the statement signed by EMB chairman Salah Echallaoui.

The statement called for unity in the fight against terrorism, saying the Muslim group is committed to democratic values and to supporting government security forces.

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/03/22/belgian-religious-groups-condemn-brussels-attacks/

Brussels attack: Australian Muslims condemn Islamic State terror

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils’ president Hafez Kassem has released a statement expressing his “horror” at news of yet another attack by “the anti-Muslim group” Islamic State, also known as ISIS.


Saying he stands in solidarity with the people of Belgium, Mr Kassem condemned last night’s twin attacks in Brussels.

“My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones, we stand with you as one,” Mr Kassem said.

“I call on the international community, Muslims as well people of other faiths or no faith, to stand united against all forms of terror, to confront it and to reject it with one voice.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...r/news-story/e4d853f9309c0a303590b396a7c95e8b

There.......I saved you the time of typing the question, have a great "hate filled" day Sundance.

 

That was 1,400 in one little town in the "civilized" UK. Imagine what happens every day in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nigeria, in which sex slavery is the norm and girls are kidnapped and sold into sex slave centers.

Remember, you thought anything more than "hundreds" was unbelievable, and one little town in the UK far exceeded your threshold.

 

Wow, two pictures define a religion that has been studied by scholars for over a millennium.

 

I can post a lot more pictures if you'd like. And, I probably will if this creepy CAIR Muslim propaganda thread continues polluting up the forum.

 

You must mistake me for a simpleton who learns about complex beliefs and theories by observing daft pictures.

 

"Getting stale", says the 24/7 Muslim propaganda machine

So, since you say you're not a Muslim, I'm sure you agree with me that their creepy prophet Mohammed was a total pedophile, am I right?

 

Pictures speak a thousand words.

I could tell you about creepy Muslim children holding signs calling for innocent people's deaths, but seeing them makes much more impact.

That's why the CAIR propaganda guy who keeps starting these threads posts pictures of pretty "supposedly Muslim" women, saying Islam is just "misunderstood"

Never underestimate the power of a photograph.



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Please continue wearing it, if that is indeed you.
( signed...a "non-sensitive male" )

 

Ok, but I was only talking about the story below the entire way through this conversation, not the other story about the 1400 kids. (even though, yes that's horrible)

One Million Child Victims of Muslim Rape Gangs in the U.K ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2509...victims-muslim...

And by the way every time I click on that link now it doesn't seem to work. (not for me anyway)

Look, there is nothing on this planet lower than an individual that would stoop that low as to try to have sex with a minor or rape a child.

I was reading a story the other day where tourist that go to places in South America demand virgins, and there are scum bags that find them as low as 10 years old for these freaks.

Rape & the sexual abuse of children is unfortunately nothing new, and it's every prevalent all over the world. There are sex slave markets in almost every country, and believe it or not this is more of a Russian & Asian mafia organized thing more so than any other country.

Yes, many places partake in this disgusting venue but the Russians & Asians pretty much have the market sewn up when it comes to these things, and regarding this being a rampant thing happening in Syria.........

No, No, and again no, wrong.................not before ISIL, and all of these other groups moved in. This is a new phenomenon in that country thanks to these terrorists groups that set up "sex houses" of captured girls & women in places like Aleppo & Raqqah for their fighters, and "later" they had the brilliant idea of becoming pimps on a large scale to make money.

But make no mistake this was never a wide scale problem in Syria before this war broke out.

The reason why I get so upset about this topic is not because I'm in denial that these things happen, or that I don't believe them to be true. I know all too well the problem with domestic violence & rape in the Arab culture, and you would never hear or see me say that it doesn't exist or that it doesn't happen.

What bothers me are the "exaggerated claims" that people make as if Arabs needed anything else, or any more negative stones thrown on top of an already huge pile of negativity, lies & distortions all created to make them look like a bunch of monsters & animals unfit to live amongst everybody else.

People "do" have agendas you know, people have been know to "lie & embellish" in case you never heard of such a thing. I find it absolutely amazing that these men have these "Superman Libido's" that enable them to rape 1000 women in a single weekend. (yes these fantastic stories are out there)

Or that "hoards" of them rove the streets or ride the European subways in Germany and other European countries in search of their next victim, doing nothing but raping hundreds or thousands of women at a clip.

Now we're hearing stories of multiple gang rapes of children all over Europe, and I'm sorry my friend but no, I don't believe the "numbers", because they are just too fantastic to believe, and the people spreading these lies could have made all of this much more palatable & believable if they didn't embellish as much as they have by just telling the truth.

There is this new mantra, this new image that people are trying to push to paint this picture of all Arabs being "sex starved maniacs" that can't control themselves, so beware & watch out.

None of this is any different from the stories & images that slave owners & whites used to try to paint about blacks in this country a few hundred years ago, it's "exactly" the same now as I think about it.

Yes, I am appalled & saddened that these children have been violated, yes 1400 is much too many & shame on the authorities for not having a better handle on this by now, and I'd love for nothing more than to baseball bat these f*ckers to death myself.

But I'm sorry, I'm not buying all of it, and the main reason why I'm not is because I've spent my entire life around these people where I grew up in Jersey, and I've spent a great deal of time around them in the Middle East, and I know them to be very affectionate, family oriented people that love & protect their families Just as much as you or I.

Are there some bad elements in the bunch...........absolutely, but 7 or 8 out of 10 the way the media & the folks pushing these ridiculous stories would want us to believe, absolutely not.

 

I will admit that the guy had some "questionable" personality traits & disorders, I'll give you that.

But I know the "can" you'd like to open here if I take the bait by answering yes, and I just don't have time to get into now because I have to run out.

But I promise you Sundance if you come back with the rest (that I know your dying to pounce on) I'll answer it all later on tonight.

And by the way, what did you think of my answer in your poll question about whether or not we should allow in refugees / immigrants?

You were eerily silent on that..............

 

Did you ask this stupid question of Muslims after yesterday's attack in Brussels?

How about the San Bernadino attacks?

The two Paris attacks last year?

If not, why didn't you?

Because it's okay to take non-Muslims and Westerners down the path of essentialization but not Muslims?

 

You already know that I did.......

Just as you know that this thread was started long before the attacks in Brussels happened.

But why let that stop you from lashing out at me like I'm the bad guy here.

Nice try, but I hate terrorists just as much as you.

Now, any more stupid f*cking questions, or are you quite done?

 

I gotta admit that was funny Sundance.

It isn't often that you make me laugh but that was really funny...

 

No, I don't, which is why I asked you that question.

Where did you create a thread posing this question to Muslims after an Islamist terror attack?

For the record, I don't think it would be fair to do so, which is why I have an issue with you doing it to non-Muslims and Westerners.

You should know better - beating up women is not who we are, and to question otherwise is despicable on your part.