12 years in custody with no crime

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  1. MrFirst

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    Hague tribunal acquits defiant Serb nationalist leader Seselj of crimes against humanity

    The Hague tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has found Serbian ex-Deputy Prime Minister Vojislav Seselj not guilty of being complicit in crimes against humanity in Croatia and Bosnia committed by Serbian militias between 1991 and 1993.

    "With this acquittal on all nine counts of the indictment the arrest warrant issued by the appeals chamber is rendered moot," said Antonetti. "Vojislav Seselj is now a free man."

    Seselj, who was leader of the nationalist Serbian Radical Party, stood accused of inciting and financing crimes against Croat, Muslim and other non-Serb populations committed by the Serbian militias from 1991 to 1993.

    Seselj surrendered to the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in February 2003 days after his indictment. He spent almost 12 years in custody before being released for medical reasons in November 2014.

    https://www.rt.com/news/337846-seselj-hague-verdict-announced/
     
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    So what. The crime he was accused off isn't exactly some petty crime.
    And at least he is free. The US got plenty of inmates that they tortured extensively who are in fact totally innocent.
    They are not formally accused of anything. Yet they are being detained for maybe the rest of their lives.

    Compared to that... this gimp got nothing to complain about.
    He had his fair trial.
     
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    So what? We should be fine with this just because it happens in the US? They can in-prison their people how ever they want, but please let it stay there.
    It's a shame that such rich and prosperous country treats its people in that way.

    This thing with Seselj is far from over, just wait and see, there will for sure be more thing happening around him.

    But I cannot point out how this whole thing is funny when I read balkan newspapers :D

    Some days ago Bosniaks and Croats hailed the Hauge over the Karadzic conviction, but just days later they all cry over the "unjust" court. ROFL


    Old but GOLD. Western folks nowdays think that holding someone for 11 year is Okay, because hey, everyone believes hes a criminal.

    [video=youtube;F4B7dWsmdao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4B7dWsmdao[/video]
     
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    I'm not familiar with the Seselj case, but most Westerners do not think that imprisoning an innocent man for 12 years is okay.

    If he was unjustly imprisoned, he is entitled to the compensation he is suing for...
     
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    I was unclear. When it comes to locking up people that the western elite sees as "bad" then people are usually OK with it because the elite says so. It takes just couple of minutes to read comments and the articles that are published, the media already openly blamed him for everything. Now when he was freed it all of sudden comes as a shock. "Experts" who just couple of days ago praised the Hauge and told everyone how the Balkans should co-operate with it and so on and so forth, all the sudden whine about the unjust of Seselj being released. Mind you that when the Croatian generals first were convicted and then couple of days later released no western media lifted a finger, no western experts told us how unjust this whole thing is.

    Dont get me wrong, the man is a nutcase, his nationalism is beyond any sanity. But there is no justice.

    Something I read from a Brittish news magazine that really "shocked" me was an "expert" who said that Serbia should be ashamed and that this could ruin it's image in the world.

    Hello??? A western court, that is NON-SERBIAN freed him and Serbia should be held responsible and ashamed? WTF
     
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    Now you know why we threw the British out of America. They can be worse than annoying. :)
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least there was some sort of trial. How many ex-Soviets have faced justice outside of Russia for the millions of atrocities during the time of Stalin?

    Can you say "Zero?"
     
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    Serbia is not Soviet. It had courts setup during the war to sentence war criminals to jail. It also did just that on several occasions.

    The Hauge is more like Soviet sentencing American soldiers but in the same time are immune to the same court.
    Americans are the biggest lobbyist for this court yet they are not obliged to take part of the same rules.

    It's like saying Hitler was less bad than the Americans because he dropped ZERO nuclear bombs on civilian targets.
     
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    Hague tribunal - a rabble of prostitutes. This Court itself should be tried and executed for illegal decisions. When a country aggressor bombing a sovereign country In the centre of Europe without UN sanction the court gathers in the mouth manure, but innocent people condemned to long terms.
     
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    At the construction site in the Crimea made the photo.

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    Obama decided to earn rubles.
     
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    Some sort of trial? So, this is what the international justice is now? Some sort of trial?

    I'm sure Stalin (who died more than 60 years ago) would be surprised to know he's a role model for the Hague court.

    And you may be surprised too, but the victims of Stalin repressions also had trials. Some sort of.
     
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    Of course Soviet courts under Stalin had up to 20 million political enemies, real, but almost all imagined placed in Gulags at one time. Few German prisoners from WW 2 sentenced virtually all on silly war crimes charges survived their captivity. Many kept until 1955.

    Soviet war crimes were so extensive, brutal and vast that there isn't enough space here to list them, but here is a sample:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-war-crime-Russia-Germany-tried-ignore.html

    The icing on the cake is how Soviet judges brought up the Katyn Forest Massacre during the Nuremberg Show Trials when they had committed it themselves. Of course nothing has been done about it.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...ons/csi-studies/studies/winter99-00/art6.html

    International Tribunals are a joke.
     
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    Socialists today in the West have a very deep affection for their Communist brothers. That is why for all the millions who have died under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and so many others---there have only been a handful of convictions handed out for the whole lot of their regimes.

    If a German or Jap did a "war crime" then punishment can still be taken out today on them. However, darling Commies are too sacred to be treated equally under the law.

    But who are the biggest hypocrites? It's not the Soviets, it's the Western Allies from WW 2. For all the millions of Allied servicemen from the US, UK, AZ, NZ, Canada, France and so forth---not a single one has ever been convicted, much less brought up on charges, for a single war crime against the enemy.
     
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    They found it unjust that he "only" was sentenced for 40 years when they found him guilty on all or almost all charges... including the nasty ones of genocide, ethnic cleansing, deportations etc. No biggy compared to how Serbs see how their beloved leader has to sit for the rest of his remaining natural life locked up for a genocide that "never took place".

    It's not as if he robbed a purse from a grandmother. The crime is exceptionally severe, so hence the course of justice has a longer route. Also, how much did this guy play a roll in delaying the course of justice?
     
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    Like I said in my previous posts, when Americans and Britts are sentenced by the same court I will believe the Genocide.
    Even your beloved american ex CIA people are saying otherwise ;).

    Read some more about the whole happening, More as in not newspapers.
     
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    Totally unrelated to that the right person got convicted for genocide.

    Not my people to love
     
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    If it was a "democratic" court I would agree.
     
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    Seriously. Have a politician who gets voted in to be a judge, judge on a fellow politician.... what an absolute kangaroo court will that be.
     
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    What are you talking about? The man had to spend 12 years in jail and finally was found not guilty. WTF all these "darling Commies", Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao and whoever have to do with the trial over Sesel???
     
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    No, but a court that is democratically recognised by all countries.
    Do you not think it's somewhat bizarre that US and other powers are immune against the same court but other small countries are to be sentenced by the same?
    To me that looks like North Korea, Soviet, early 1900s court style.

    It's like if the BRICS countries were to sentence US soldiers who committed crimes in Iraq but at the same time are not obliged to the same court.

    Im amazed that you cannot see what Im talking about.
     
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    And Seselj will be convicted just wait and see. Bramertz will make sure of this. Mark my words.

    Just like the Croats got sentenced and then released, Seselj will be jailed again......

    International Justice at work...
     
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    Neah. That just gives way that countries refuse to recognize it out of the convenience that they than are immune against their war criminal behavior. Lets not do that.
     
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    haha yeah, must be so. We'll just turn a blind I too all western interventions under false pretext. Because it's all for democracy :D
     
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    Well since Sebrenica has been called a genocide, and looking at your "hero" next to your name.
    Seems you're really good at turning a blind eye when you feel like it.
     
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    I'm trying to show the "big picture" that those running the World Courts could not care less about greatest monsters in history: communists. Instead they focus on relatively insignificant figures from the Balkan Wars.


    For all the millions spent on going after true Commie genocidal monsters like Pol Pot---there have been only a handful of convictions. The silly fools running the World Courts even let Pol Pot die of old age a free man.
     

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