Why did Larry Silverstein admit to designing the new WTC7 in 2000?

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    That's true but there's no purpose to murdering people who have already made claims that are available to anyone. It would arouse way too much suspicion. For someone who has information that could expose some of the criminals and hasn't yet revealed it, that's a whole other story. That took place with JFK's assassination back in the day. Even in Susan Lindauer's case, they tried their best to have her labelled a psych case and put her away in a mental institution and keep her drugged permanently. Thanks to a level headed judge, that didn't happen. But as you can read from some of the OCT defenders here and in other forums, they were indoctrinated to parrot the government claim that she is off her rocker. The videos of Lindauer show clearly that she is quite lucid and in full control of her senses. But bottom line, she was not murdered. It's kind of the same thing they tried to do with Bradley/Chelsea Manning to silence whistle blowers.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    So do you have evidence for your fictitious claims or will you simply keep repeating that you saw it coming?
     
  3. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I have the same thing for you as I have for all the rabid US government tools in this forum and the same thing they have for me, nothing. Learn to live with it or not for all I care.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    So you simply lied about your claims so be it
     
  5. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I guess you also don't understand the meaning of I have nothing for you. So be it.
     
  6. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    It sure makes his admission about giving the order to pull building 7 more understandable.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Including logical and ideas, evidence or facts.

    But since you admit as much yes so be it.
     
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    I just noticed an error I made when I made post #13. Notice that link to the video on Danny Jowenko is dead here.
    https://www.alien-ufos.com/showthread.php?t=66884

    In order to find the video of the dead link, I did a YouTube search on the title and just posted the first thing that came up without watching the video. This is the video I thought I was posting.

    Controlled Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko dead after Speaking about 9⁄11 WTC 7 Building 7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwTNxb31Dk


    If I'd double checked that video to make sure it was the same one, I wouldn't have posted this video below which is a little misleading.

    US Criminal Regime: Expert 9/11 Witness, Danny Jowenko, Ordered Murdered
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiA5OYdHneA


    I'll try to be more careful in the future.
     
  9. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    He was a CD expert but the vast majority of people who see WTC7 collapse for the first time immediately connect it to CD. It's extremely rare to find someone who at first look will say the building collapsed as a result of fire. Dan Rather had the exact same reaction as captured on news video.

    I'm not sure either and IMO there is no good reason for a covert assassination of Jowenko for merely stating his professional opinion. There is always the possibility that if he was murdered, it could have been for an entirely unrelated reason and not by anyone in government. Personally, I think it was just an unfortunate accident.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Obviously, there have been many movies made and books written about murder mysteries.

    It would not be difficult to come up with a scheme about why Jowenko was murdered, if he was.
     
  11. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Another point to be made is that Jowenko wasn't nobody to many who research 9/11. Government (elements within?) knows that making a martyr out of Jowenko adds further notoriety to Jowenko's unbiased claim that WTC7 was Cd'd. So why throw fuel on the fire?
     
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    Why would they bother? His testimony means nothing in real terms.
     
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    WTC7 did not implode untill 9/11/2001
     
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    And? I know what the OP is trying to imply, but it doesn't necessarily follow. Do you see the point? Perhaps not, I forget where I am sometimes.

    Again, why is this odd? Remember the WTC was getting old. Buildings have been demolished and another built in half the lifetime of 7WTC. Owners have new designs drawn up quite often for speculation on expansion.

    It is only odd if one doesn't work in the industry I suppose.

    OR did Larry 'do' 9/11? Think about that idiocy before you even go there. Larry could NOT have influenced any task or event on the day. It is absurd.
     
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    Oh, and 'implode' isn't correct.
     
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    The building was not anywhere old enough to demolish and I doubt Larry did it as you say, but he certainly was in on it. Hell, he even admitted at one point that it was he who gave the oreder to demolish the building.
     
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    Garbage, it was old enough, and your doubts are just speculative, therefore I can disregard them.

    Of course he was, he owned it. Gee.....

    If he did (no one seems to be able to find the quote from 9/11 truth) he had no authority. What is wrong with truthers? A building's owner cannot tell the Fire Dept. to demolish a building-that's absurd as it is a conflict of interest and could possibly place emergency services in an insurance scam. No, the idiot that came up with that one has no idea of Fire Dept. procedures.
     
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    There's no question he knew, he had to know, however I doubt he was the one who gave the order, that had to come from much higher up the pecking order. The plan to demolish the 3 towers was not Lucky Larry's plan, the buildings had to be rigged weeks or months earlier, he was just a tool who knew he was going to make a fortune on the scheme. Oh and despite some silly claims, firefighters don't CD buildings, that would be the job of CD experts, or order buildings to be CD'd.
     
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    I doubt he gave the order either, but this is what he said:
    "I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
    --Larry Silverstein interviewed on PBS

    And MSM even reported:
    "Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall."
    --FOX News
     
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    Why can't anyone retrieve this footage? You just lifted that from a truther site.That still doesn't mean that Silverstein had the authority to order the FDNY to do anything. A building owner has no jurisdiction in such a scenario owing to the possibility of making the fire services accessories to insurance fraud. It's just not his call, and everyone should know that. If the fire dept comes to your house, you can't tell them to do anything, and to believe Silverstein had some special exemption is absurd.

    And? That is being manipulated to suit your agenda. That is a fair call after all, and it doesn't in any way denote the building WAS demolished. You are grasping at straws and ignoring the law. Do you really believe that Hadyn and Nigro would put their men in such a compromising position? If so, you are ignorant of emergency services procedures.
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Uhhhh, NO!

    You are obviously way out of the loop:

    [video=youtube;Wq-0JIR38V0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq-0JIR38V0[/video]
     
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    I've never needed to find it, so save your smartarse remark. You are the first truther to produce it in my eight years of doing this.

    It still doesn't prove that he influenced the FDNY. That is illegal. He may have recommended it, but it was not his call.

    Thanks for cherry-picking my post and ignoring the main point.
     
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    Yes I'm fully aware thanks. Furthermore, Tony Szamboti claims he heard in an interview on the History Channel that Silverstein claimed they had to CD WTC7 for safety purposes. The segment from the HC is missing and unobtainable without a court order (they tried) so no one can verify Tony's claim.
     
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    he was running around the international community doing talk shows, most likely someone got an oueee a bit too early. (before they could run for cover)
     
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    I'm not saying it's not possible Jowenko was targeted, I just feel he was doing the same thing many expert members of AE911T and others do, so why him in particular? Tom Sullivan is still around as far as I know and his expertise may not be the same but it is along the same lines. He's all over YouTube, same as Jowenko.
     

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