California Democrat Moves To Create SAFE ZONES For Crack And Heroine Use Because they would cut down on overdoses. And it isn't just in California. Progressives in Washington and New York want to do the same. I personally don't see why not? They're gonna use the stuff anyhow. Why not put it out of the general community and let them kill themselves in private? Read more @ http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/...s-create-safe-zones-crack-heroine-use-reason/
i rather gather them up in super safe zone like in the movie escape from new york[video=youtube;NDwgIBVkU7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDwgIBVkU7g[/video] and let them have at it, so we can watch it on on pay preview ..
I agree. I agree...just saying NO and the DRUG WAR have been a complete wast of time and money! And although I'm not eager to hope for anther's demise in the interest of positive improvement to the overall general public... I agree that it would be better for the user as they will feel less stigmatized and perhaps feel more accepted, maybe even moving a step or two closer to treatment. There is also the consideration it may reduce drug crimes.
You do realize that the addiction issue, especially Heroin, has ballooned to epic proportions SPECIFICALLY because of our capitalist model of economy? All you have to do is basic math. Big Pharma pushed opiate drugs to the masses for injuries, something as small as a bad sprain all the way to major car accidents. Then, when the people are all addicted, the government steps in to curb the opiate addiction that was created by big pharma, despite science to the contrary, all in the journey for profit. Then you blame the society for not being responsible enough - well, who's responsible for lying to the doctors? Who's responsible for that? Because we are told to trust our doctors, who in turn are convinced by junk science from big pharma. So yes, capitalism SPECIFICALLY CREATED this (*)(*)(*)(*)ing problem. I say we take all of the venture capitalists, predatory lenders, junk science selling big pharma lobbyists, mobster wall street enforcers, and everyone who supports them, throw them into a massive space ship and send them off the planet. On pay per view. Then we can have reasonable discourse about how to fix this issue.
So what do these crack and heroine addicts do when they're not shooting up, going back to their school studies or NASA jobs? The solution to this is to make these safe drug zones places where you can go in, get all the drugs you want, but you can never come out.
How is this a Big Pharma problem and not the doctors that proscribe them? Last I checked people can't just go buy them over the counter.
Alcohol possibly, but cigarettes still allow you to function and hold down a job. Which leads to my main issue with this.....addiction. If drugs on this scale are made legal more people will try them because the punishment for trying them is gone. The more people that try it the more likely they are to become addicted. Some of these drugs are so addictive that it becomes nearly impossible for a person to function properly and hold down a job. Why would we want more people on the "system" being taken care of?
Lots of people can function very well while being addicted to drugs Legal punishment for drug users has not stopped addiction Imo it has spread addiction because you are buying from a pusher who has many products to sell As compared to, for example a legal pot store Or a treatment facility for opiods
Like Prohibition the drug laws ignore human behavior. By criminalizing normal human behavior we force that behavior underground where the participants both become criminals and are victimized by criminals. People are going to use drugs and some people are going to abuse them. Whether it is alcohol, pot, crack, or heroin it is the nature of people. By legalizing pot Colorado has reduced that criminality, is deriving tax revenues, has better control over access by children, and is delivering a better, safer product at lower costs. If something like crack were legalized the street price would drop dramatically. The quality and safety of the product would improve and the addict could feed their habit for a few bucks a day. The down side, of course, would be a spike in deaths caused by long and short term OD. But, without meaning to be cruel, for the most part, the addict is already dead. His heart just doesn't know it. Unlimited access to inexpensive drugs would just speed the ending process. Lower crime rates Fewer people in prison Less government intrusion into our personal lives Higher tax revenues Seems the upside is very strong.
Addiction rates remain constant, a couple of percentage points of the population, <2 %, for opiates. Abuse rates are a little higher, about 5%. Addiction is a physical and psychological dependence, abuse is episodic use beyond efficacious dose needed to treat pain or psychological disorder caused by aberrant neurotransmitter pathways in the brain. People are hard wired to become addicted, and conversely those not hard wired can not become addicted. This isn't a floating number, those susceptible to addiction are pre disposed by genetics and are less than 10% of the population. The idea that unhindered availability will correlate to higher addiction rates isn't based in science and is false. Medical science on pain and addiction has come a long way and over the years has givin us mountains of empirical data on the subject. Pain patients, or those in serious pain who are prescribed class 2 opiates for long periods do not see addiction rates higher than the general population. More than 90% of pain patients walk away from opiates when the cause of the pain is resolved. About 10%, less actually, will have a psychological desire to continue seeking opiates, about 2% will be diagnosed as addicts. Cheers Labour
legalize METH..... no wait, my arbitrary line of what drugs are acceptable does not include Meth. I will enjoy... again.... voting down a proposed amendment in my state to legalize pot. I think of all the drugs out there, that one is the least destructive. but I just love watching pot heads cry about it. They are the most inconsiderate group of people second only to cig smokers and only slightly more annoying than vapers.....
No, not really. There was a time in this country when no drugs were illegal, and they'd likely do now what they did then: get their fix, go to work. The solution is to legalize all drugs, period, and offer treatment and harm reduction whenever/wherever possible. The WOD is the most colossal failure in the history of US domestic policy. Fight the good fight, not the futile and dirty one. http://www.leap.cc/ - - - Updated - - - So, you're too stupid to know that by doing that you're potentially ruining lives, wasting taxpayer's money and furthering corruption, all so you can get a chuckle at the sorrow of other people?
choices. I also think all stop signs should be YIELD signs... therefore, eliminating "rolling stop" tickets. But I'm not going to roll stops and then bich about why I have to pay the ticket I get. it was my choice to roll the stop, not the cop's choice the law is there. if a person ruins there career because they failed a drug test.... that was the choice they made willingly. if smoking a joint is more important to you than your ability to provide for your family.... that's your choice
* scratching head * OK, I'm not really sure how that applies to what I actually said, but you're now saying it's about choices, although you said you'd vote to prevent a legal choice by those who use MJ. Not really sure I'm following you here.
Nice post. You touch on the subject of financial burden of addiction. The black market for drugs runs the cost of the substance up by about 17,000% on the retail level. Thus we see addicts with $200 per day habits for substances that are produced for pennies for qualitative and quantitative equivalents. Addiction is treatable and really very easy to defeat as long as the addict has family help and is financially stable, has a home, has a car, is employable etc, It's the concomitant and compounding issues caused by the excessive and purely artifical cost of addiction that ruin lives. Addiction to illegal substances creates financial catastrophe, something that is very hard to correct. Its the financial ruin that breaks up families, sees life savings depleted, and drives the entire family into poverty. The financial ruin is caused by the artifical cost, a cost created by criminalization of drugs. A lifetime of built up equity is quickly converted to drug cartel profits and leaves the community never to return. Back to pain patients for an understanding. Pain patients who become addicted through necessary treatment do not face the financial ruin that street addicts do, their families remain intact, their homes aren't forclosed on or in peril, savings accounts have positive balances as do personal reputations and more importantly, self esteem. Recovery for this group of addicts is near 100%. Cheers Labour
Wait a minute. They think legalizing heroine and crack would cut down on overdoses? I'd like to hear Hillary's opinion on this since she pushed for more drug control in 1996. - - - Updated - - - I really hope you're being sarcastic.
So legalize the drugs and let them go? Really dude? While we're at it, since murder is illegal and hasn't stopped people from murdering, let's just legalize that too. Along with driving drunk, and beating women. Hell, let's just get rid of every law we have in this country since they don't stop everyone from breaking them. Maybe THEN people will stop breaking them!
Legalizing pot in Colorado has also led to more arrests and crime from people in surrounding states driving there, buying what they want, and going back to their home state to sell it.
OK legalize them. But at the same time if you become a junky or ruin your life you do not receive government assistance of any kind. you are on your own and nobody pays for your addiction. If you are on welfare already and have been found to do hardcore drugs, then your welfare assistance is halted as again we should not have to pay for people to be drug abusers. No jail time, just no more food stamps and such. Make junkies heroin, cocaine and meth users pay for these "safe zones" . Oh and businesses still have the right to hire or fire people based on drug use. There is more but those things need to be implemented. I know I will have liberal opposition to this who feel we should pay for a hippy's acid trips, but I am not down for making this a normal part of everyday life unless you just want a large amount of incompetent idiots walking around. Oh yay and then we got tons more crack heads and cocaine users behind the wheel going balls out. Awesome.
The first law against drugs started in 1880 when the population of America was 50 million people. As more drugs were created and found to be dangerous, they were made illegal. With 330 million and growing, legalizing drugs again would serve no purpose other than population control. Clever that you called another poster "stupid" and followed it up by saying lives are being ruined and tax payers dollars are being wasted because he wants to keep drugs illegal. Drug addicts cause their own sorrow. It's not our responsibility to change everything in the book just to make the people with zero initiative for life happy. - - - Updated - - - Whose fault is it that someone is addicted to MJ? Theirs or Javis's? FFS, quit trying to make the drug abusers the victims.
You know that'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl. We already shouldn't provide assistance for them if they're capable of working but we have to because the left think it's unfair that someone goes homeless or hungry for not having initiative. Just think if they were addicted to drugs too. They'll claim that if we don't supply and pay for the habit, the junkies will go out and steal. Then we'll have to change laws for thieves, especially if the majority of them are black. They can also place all of the drug dealers' businesses inside the junkie zones and put a fence around it so they can live, smoke, shoot up, snort, work ( lol yeah right ), and drive in the one area while normal society functions normally. As a father, a son, a husband, an Uncle, and a brother, I don't want those legally intoxicated people on the road with me, my wife, my parents, my nieces and nephews, my sister, or my friends. I guess it takes common sense to think logically though.
all drugs shoudl be legal, arrest people that commit crimes on drugs... not just for using drugs and your right, abusers gonna abuse anyways, just like Alcoholics.... but not everyone abuses.... prohibition of drugs makes criminals of those that do not abuse it's really sad that we can't go to the store and buy a sleeping pill if having issues sleeping or a pain pill if in pain... all cause some people might abuse guess what, some people abuse spray paint.... it's just the reality of it, but we do not ban spray paint .
Yes, and? Do you know why they were passed? No, I'm sorry, that's simply and wildly inaccurate and not why they were made illegal. It was primarily racial politics and secondarily corporate politics. With a population of 330 million, legalizing drug now would serve a lot of purposes. Taking power away from gangsters. Restoring the right to self-medicate. Shrinking the power of what's becoming a police state in regards to drugs. Lesson corruption in law enforcement. Stop breeding contempt for the law. Allow more addicts to get treatment. Shrink our incredibly big prison population. Allow police to concentrate on violence and fraud rather than drugs. This should be obvious to anyone with an honest interest in the reality of the WOD and the fact it's been an unmitigated disaster for the US and the world. No, the state also creates their sorrow by incarcerating them, ruining their lives, families, careers, etc.. for things that cannot be rationally justified as a crimes. Drug abusers ARE victims. If you can't grasp that simple fact then we really have very little to discuss.
Governments should place all the drugs in piles next to the road salt and give them away. Let the users fill little red toy pails and shove off to paradise - or wherever. Of course, I apologize in advance to our ruling Drug Cartels for even suggesting such a thing.
