Without the power grid, 90% are dead within 2 years.

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    The Rubber Gloves are something I do have in my kit so good call.

    But the other items you list are things most people already have in a standard first aid kit.

    The Exacto Knife and Needles and the Dental Floss are for stitching closed bad wounds.

    The Mercurochrome is the best to prevent infections and a little goes a long way.

    Do you know what the Super Glue is for?

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    LOL!!!

    With TV...Internet.....Pillows....etc...

    Got a LOVE IT!!!

    Make sure you bring BEER!!

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    Would re-think the mercuricrome - it has been taken out of the hospitals. Betadine is a better choice. GTN (Glyceryl trinitrate) is a potent vasodilator that works well for cardiac pain - and not all people have their own. I carry some because most of the people I camp with are over 50 and am waiting for the day someone gets severe chest pain. It is also very effective for hypertension (yep own BP cuff too) and surprisingly for oesophageal spasm

    Most wounds can be staunched with direct pressure and you may be doing more good than harm by attempting field repair - have seen some NASTY bacteria enter wounds and then laugh at antibiotics

    You can use superglue for wound closure BUT it stings like a demon with the caveat that you can use it to close head wounds by gluing the hair together - but not recommending that as when you get the victim to ED and they have to remove it - well, being chased around the ED by an irate intern is not good fun!!!
     
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    The Betadine has a storage issue but a new type is becoming available.

    Your right that unless a person is qualified to do it a person should NEVER attempt to stitch a wound unless they have no choice.

    SUPER GLUE....and you got it....is used to close large FLAPS of flesh and although there is available of type of glue especially designed to do this it is nowhere near as capable of closing and being an adhesive for such a wound as super glue.

    Unless I was like you and was traveling with older people who might have a Heart Attack I instead have in my kit a few squeeze bottles of AFRIN NASAL SPRAY.

    I am sure you know WHY I would carry such a thing and not for it's ability to keep one's nose clear of mucus. LOL!!

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    I have thought about buying a defibrillator but they are still pricey. I was hoping the price would come down once they became more common, but the prices seem to be going up.
     
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    Do you or a relative have heart issues?

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    Oh, I'll do my best to survive, me and my family. I have guns, know how to hunt, plenty of camping gear.

    But I don't look forward to it. I have no reason to think it would be preferable.

    And anyway, the whole "lone wolf survivor" BS is not how it will work out in any case. Survivors will band together, form communities, salvage what they can, work together, etc. We won't be starting from zero, with a bunch of random survivalists wandering the planet.
     
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    I am an avid hunter and I own many weapons including Primitives and Compound and Re-curve Bows.

    Banding Together would be key to survival but as I said....the ONLY circumstance where such a thing be necessary would result in death within a year or two or perhaps much sooner anyways.

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    there are a few other survivalist capable hunters out there
    And assuming that you guys are all out there hunting the same animals to survive
    I do not see the game animals surviving for very long
     
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    Ok.

    I've gone through Air Force SERE school.

    Where were you an instructor teaching survival skills?
     
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    The 1770 Camping Grounds are very beautiful and thank you for showing me.

    I used to teach kids here....

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    LINK....https://www.facebook.com/Moses-Scout-Reservation-257667844253847/

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    You put out an incredible amount of disinformation on this forum; it seems virtually everything you know, or think you know, is wrong. I normally wouldn't even think of going behind you and correcting you because...I already have a full time job, but the idea that the US and the utility companies have "VAST" supplies so that power could be restored after a major EMP strike in 3 weeks to a month is just ridiculous. There already is a manufacturing backlog of EHV-class transformers and the largest types are not even made in the US. It would be years, and trillions of dollars to get enough of those to get the power grid back up to 100%. There would be a lot of havoc in the meantime.
     
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    I have the pills and a filter system by MSR, though have never used either of them....

    some day plan to motorcycle across the country, then might use them

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    There is SERE then there is the..."CIVILIAN"....counterpart school.

    The Civy version is a bit more comprehensive and deals with very specific scenarios.

    I also was trained and taught Psyop's.

    SERE is more specific to training for being a POW.

    The Civy version is more about being able to withstand various forms of psychological and chemical interogation.

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    OK....since you know what an EHV class transformer is then you ALSO KNOW that in the event a a multiple state area of the U.S. sustained an EMP Strike that IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO USE EHV CLASS TRANSFORMERS TO JUST GET MINIMAL BASIC ELECTRICAL SERVICES BACK ONLINE!!!

    For GOD SAKES we could run an entire new wire system in 6 months!!!

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    In Massachusetts there are so many deer we do not have enough hunters to lower their population as they are eating everything and causing a lot of damage.

    BUT....if everyone was hunting then yes....they would not last long.

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    6 months? I thought we were talking about 3 weeks to a month?
     
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    I was not implying it would only take 3 weeks to a month if there was an EMP strike.

    It takes about 3 weeks to a month to restore power to the vast majority of a multiple state population after a Hurricane.

    Plus if necessary we do have what are known as GASOLINE POWERED GENERATORS.

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    There is a POW component to SERE, but it's not solely a POW course.

    The Air Force has an ECAC (Evasion and Conduct After Capture) course more oriented for a potential POW scenario.
     
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    No. I just want one because what is better than a toy that electrocutes? :cool:

    The man across the road from me and down a lot is like 70 and works in his yard to the point that some days I think he will keel over and compressions are kind of like work and I am not a fan of work so I would like to have a defib to go with my pocket mask cause there is no way I would ever give him mouth to mouth not that you are supposed to do that anymore.
     
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    OK as I suspected, you're just making it up as you go along. There is no way there are enough gas powered generators in the country to substitute for an electric power grid.
     
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    I am aware.

    We were trained while under the influence of amobarbital, scopolamine, midazolam...etc.

    We also underwent being water boarded, sleep deprivation, stress positions...etc.

    Hunger and no sleep is a killer.

    I always found dealing with the drugs to be easy.

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    Did I say that?

    No I did not.

    I was referring to the ability of Hospitals, Police and Fire Depts...etc....as well as a large number of homes to have Generators ready and available.

    In New England I would say at least 40% of all homes now own a Gas Powered Generator especially after the massive winter and summer storms we have had.

    A few Halloweens ago we got 36 inches of snow which downed power lines and we lost electricity for over 10 days.

    After that...just about EVERYONE bought a generator.

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    LOL!!!

    No guy likes to do that!!

    Well...MOST guy's.

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    Your just angry that I called your B.S. on the whole...."OH WE NEED EHV-CLASS TRANSFORMERS OR WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE ELECTRICITY!!!"

    We DO NOT need that specific class transformer to restore services in an emergency.

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    yes they have these gawdawfull horse-flies in Summer with a wicked bite, it HURTS lol... still worth it :)

     
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    The worse is mosquito's in Alaska.

    Alaska is quite possibly the most beautiful place on Earth but there are the biggest and baddest mosquito's you would ever meet and they will eat you alive!!!

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    Now I'm not going to Alaska EVER lol... here's some trivia, the mosquitos in Johannesburg is slower than the mosquitos in Melbourne, they're that slow I could catch them by hand in the dark, lying in bed at night lol.....just by listening... in Australia they're too fast.... probably the altitude, Jo'burg is 2000m above sea level...yes I'm weird, I know lol

     

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