Imagine you're a 19 year old senior, don't ask. And let's say you expose the tip of your dingle for a football team photo prank. Now imagine you're facing 70 criminal counts for indecent exposure and furnishing harmful items to minors. No this isn't a hypothetical. It's happened to a young man by the name of Hunter Osborn. This is what prison for profit produces. It makes someone who committed a rather small infraction into a hardened life long criminal. Worse is state and federal lawmakers are all to happy to pass laws imposing mandatory minimum sentences. Here come the private prison lobbyists with my perks! Americans should be outraged that our incarceration is a profit motive. When will this s**t end. http://http://www.vox.com/2016/5/3/11577828/arizona-high-school-football-prank-hunter-osborn
I seriously doubt that a conviction for 69 counts of one offense for one act based on the number of people in the photo would pass the smell test even with the most prudent appeals court judge if that happened.
You guys aren't grasping how the law works regarding images. MINORS go to highschools. Therefore EVERY MINOR in POSSESSION of a year book is in possession of a picture of the tip of a grown man's pecker (19 being past 1 which is illegal. Since he caused the image to be created through an intentional act he gets popped on EACH INSTANCE of that image he caused to be made and KNEW would be given over to minors as a matter of course which actually made it into the hands of a minor.
I fully expect him to be punished, but putting him in prison and turning him into a sex offender is overkill.
I do not know how to edit the post now that someone has responded. So let's try it here. If it doesn't work this time all humanity is lost. http://www.vox.com/2016/5/3/11577828/arizona-high-school-football-prank-hunter-osborn
That one works. I think you accidentally referenced the entire URL and the "link" button here fills in the "http://" part for you so your OP link led to "http://www.http.com//www.vox.com/2016/5/3/11577828/arizona-high-school-football-prank-hunter-osborn"
Well that's what happens when you flash your pecker. Especially at minors. That's what the statute provides for. You're saying you'd rather he was punished extrajudicially?
He, a 19 year old, flashed his pecker at the camera. Leaving aside the exposing himself in public in front of a bunch of minors issue that picture made it in the book and was seen by minors. Flashing your (*)(*)(*)(*) is not a prank someone of legal majority gets to play with high school kids. Wonder what the reason for that might be?
He's still a peer and there's no malice behind his intent. You don't trash someone's life for such a minor infraction. He deserves community service and a fine, not prison and the sex offender registry.
He's 19. An adult. Flashing his pecker. In front of minors and on camera in an image he knew was likely to be delivered to minors. The statute mandates punishment for that. It's harsh for a reason. Now if you'd like to rewrite the statute I encourage you to do so in a way that lets this kid off in a boys will be boys fashion but still attaches to proper predators be they flashers or what have you.
It should have never been written in such a manner in the first place. One size fits all punishments and mandatory minimums are the result of lobbyists looking to fill our prison system for profit. We need to go back to common sense judgements that actually fit the intent of the crime rather than simply the crime itself.
19 is hardly an adult and his life should not finished because of this one incident. this is an instance of judicial over kill.
I work with a guy who will be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life...he was 20, he had too much Corona, and he took a whiz in some guy's shrubbery.
I know a guy that also happened to except he took a whiz in an alley instead. Now he's a registered sex offender. I'm just glad that when I was a kid we didn't have to deal with the stuff kids today do, none of us would graduated high school because all of us would have been in juvie.
Imagine you are committed Islamic terrorist in Syria or Iraq or Somalia that wants to kill as many Americans and Christians as they possibly can. Would you not love the chance to come to America at the behest of Obama and Hillary, lie about your intentions---AND get paid welfare entitlements to fund your terror activities?
despite the fact that your scenario isn't happening, nor can it, what the (*)(*)(*)(*) does it have to do with this thread?
It already has happened: More than 90 percent of recent refugees from Middle Eastern nations are on food stamps and nearly 70 percent receive cash assistance, according to government data. According to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) data highlighted by the immigration subcommittee staff of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) — chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest — in FY 2013, 91.4 percent of Middle Eastern refugees (accepted to the U.S. between 2008-2013) received food stamps, 73.1 percent were on Medicaid or Refugee Medical Assistance and 68.3 percent were on cash welfare. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nt-of-middle-eastern-refugees-on-food-stamps/ Since Obama's rule, there have been dozens of attacks in the US by radical Muslims, leaving dozens dead: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx More to come.
yea, they're called refugees. refugees get aid. so I ask again..........despite the fact that your scenario isn't happening, nor can it, what the (*)(*)(*)(*) does it have to do with this thread?
So you're going to pass on writing a statute that still gets the "actual" sex offenders who flash their peckers for a thrill but doesn't get the "fun loving prankster" totally fits the definition of sex offender but totally aren't sex offenders who are just flashing their peckers for fun.....
18 is an adult or did you miss the part where you sign a selective service agreement and obtain the right to vote and must be charged as an adult not a minor? He shouldn't have flashed his pecker at a pack of minors on camera. His possible sentence looks as bad as it does because of the 70 counts. Most judges will roll those sentences concurrently. This isn't the court or the DA's discretion. Its required by statute. Blame the legislature, not the courts.
I was showing how jacked-up the criminal justice system is with the Obama regime---that is something far worse than a flasher in the OP getting slammed.