Pat Buchanan: "Bush Republicanism Is Dead and Gone."

You can't go home again, Republicans --- to borrow a phrase from a Tom Wolfe novel. You have to accept the fact that the times are a changin' and Trump is a spoiler. The Iraq war and our economic mess bequeathed by Bush and his fellow gangsters have turned this country upside down. Congratulations!!!!

http://http://buchanan.org/blog/bush-republicanism-dead-gone-125196

 

Is Pat Buchanan still alive?

Or is he just so irrelevant that no one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what he has to say?

 

I do think when Trump is done with the Republican Party, it will be more liberal than it is now. Of course you have a lot of conservatives who think the second Bush administration was much too liberal.

Isn't it strange the war hawk in this may be Hillary Clinton instead of Trump. Trump the more isolationist vs. Hillary the globalist.

Perhaps Trump is leading the GOP back to where it was prior to and including FDR and Truman. Minus the religious right and more nationalist. I guess we will see what happens.

 

Hopefully the marriage between the radical religious rightwing and the neo-con internationalists FINALLY is being run out of the Republican Party. The Bushes are more than welcome to NOT come to the Republican convention and hopefully its goodbye forever.

In the 2018 Republican primaries there should be a lot of housecleaning undertaken. Orginally, Republicans opposed religion intruding into politics and opposed foreign interventions unless absolutely necessary to avoid endless wars and foreign entanglements such as now been going on for decades.

It is now only the Democrats who have the war-mongering internationalist candidate in Hillary Clinton - never a war, drone strike, bombing or foreign government overthrown that she doesn't support. If Hillary becomes the Democratic nominee, the Democratic Party becomes the party wanting endless wars.

 

It's alive and well. At least that's what all the lefties suggest when they blame Bush for everything to this day.

I'll blame Bush for stuff too no matter who the president is. Just for fun, why not right?

 

The Bushes may well be remembered as a revolutionary vanguard for the progressive movement. Which is not to imply that they knew what they were doing.

 

Agreed!

 

Trump's coming out in favor of a minimum wage hike and backpedalling on his across-the-board tax cut....


Reagan Conservatism is dead now.

Halleujah.

 

If Trump disses religion and calls for expanding the power, cost and size of government his support will evaporate faster than a little squirt into a working forge.

If he does that after he takes office and starts another major war I would expect an impeachment trial.

 

Your link didn't work, but I found it.

http://buchanan.org/blog/bush-republicanism-dead-gone-125196

There is a lot of truth in Buchanan's article, except for this:

NAFTA and its disastrous consequences, the Iraq War, and the 2007/2008 financial meltdown were all instigated by like-minded Republicans and Democrats - large numbers of them both - including our "endless war", Wall Street-approved candidate, Hillary Clinton.

It is so interesting to me that Clinton Democrats are the Bushes that the Dems have been blaming for everything for the past 8 years.

 

1. He won't "diss" religion....but he clearly will ignore the Religious Right.

2. What is the imposition of massive tariffs...and a huge spike in the Border Patrol and a Border Wall, if not expanding the power, cost, and size of Government?

3. "another major war"? Like his promise to utterly destroy ISIS?

 

How does enforcing our borders translate to expanding the power of Government? It's a constitutional obligation.

 

if he loses the election, then his impact on the republican party will be far less dramatic, imho. if he does win, then i tend to agree with your prediction.

of course, this brand of politics is new, and the outcome is less certain than in the past

 

1. Ignoring part of his voter base would be very stupid. Do you think Trump is stupid? Really?

2a. Who do you think is more afraid of "massive tariffs" China, Mexico or the Trump? IOW, massive tariffs are very unlikely. 2b. Mexico will pay for the wall and the Border Patrol will always be a petty cash item for the USG. If Fox keeps running off his mouth Mexico may have to pay for that too.

3. Taking or destroying the oil production that funds the IS will terminate IS - fast. That is all that Trump has proposed. Neither approach would require a "major war".

So just relax and enjoy it.

 

Yet you support a candidate who's products are cheap third world imports as well as his wives...amazing

 

Why? Because Buchanan says so?

BTW Guthrie deserted his family.

 

You're going to have those who supports Trump no matter what he does. Just like you have those who support Obama no matter what he does or Bush number two or Bill Clinton etc. For impeachment to work, you have to have the majority of Americans behind it. They weren't when Clinton was impeached and it didn't work. Now the majority of Americans were behind impeachment of Nixon and he resigned instead.

One party by itself can't impeach a president, it takes cooperation between parties and the backing of the majority of Americans.

 

Why do you confuse Republicans with GOP RINO establishment politicians?

Republicans are the voters. The ones who gave Trump the nomination.

25 years of Bush establishment domination of the party is over.

No more globalists. Time for nationalism.


Pat Buchanan is great. I wish he would have been president.

 

Trump may not be stupid but he clearly thinks his supporters are.

 

I agree, this new brand of so called populism now instead of conservatism would take better hold if Trump wins. If he does win, I will be interested to see if he sticks with what he says, more or less during the nomination process or reverts to his lifelong held views. If Trump reverts, there will be a lot of democrats happy with him. Although because of the R next to his name they probably won't show it much.

But one can never be sure about Trump, he will say one thing one day and contradict it the next and the day after state he never said it. I don't think anyone outside of Trump himself knows what they are getting with him. There are times I don't even think Trump knows what he stands for. He is so vague on the issues, what he says can mean many different things. Time will tell.

 

The Republican party will be less conservative economically, because it has to roll with the times, and populism is it's new theme. Which is why Trump's on board with the minimum wage hike. Helping the working man.

This is also going to be incredibly hard for the Democrats to run against, because that's always been their only appeal. Progressives are actually a very small minority

But, the GOP will be becoming much more isolationist internationally, much less open to immigration from the third world, and much more nationalistic.

Traditional values will also be making a comeback, as the pendulum swings back to the right.


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Trump said American workers make too much...how's that help the working man?

 

He is alive and stuck on that hideous McGlaughlin Group on PBS...Heh heh...I am sure I spelt that wrong, but WTF...

 

Trump's support is only firm so long as he is perceived as the opponent of a corrupt political establishment. If he is ever perceived as anything but a vigorous antiestablishment opposition populist his support base will turn on him and he will become very vulnerable instantly.

Nevertheless, I am not sure it is possible to remove any president from office through the impeachment process. I doubt that Nixon could have been removed if he had resisted.

 

You really believe that people who support the enemies of a corrupt political establishment are stupid?