Europe To Send Conspiracy Theorists To ‘Reeducation Camps’

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    Recent research and investigation by Radzinsky and others also corroborates the account provided years earlier by Robert Wilton, correspondent of the London Times in Russia for 17 years. His account, The Last Days of the Romanovs - originally published in 1920, and reissued in 1993 by the Institute for Historical Review -- is based in large part on the findings of a detailed investigation carried out in 1919 by Nikolai Sokolov under the authority of "White" (anti-Communist) leader Alexander Kolchak. Wilton's book remains one of the most accurate and complete accounts of the murder of Russia's imperial family.3

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_weber.html


    The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik ‘revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:


    NAME NATIONALITY
    Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
    Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Lourie (Larine) Jew
    Ouritski Jew
    Volodarski Jew
    Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
    Smidovitch Jew
    Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
    Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
    Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
    Krylenko Russian
    Lounatcharski Russian


    “The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following:


    MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY
    President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
    Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
    Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
    Agriculture Protian Armenian
    Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
    Food Schlichter Jew
    Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
    State Control Lander Jew
    State Lands Kauffman Jew
    Works V. Schmidt Jew
    Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
    Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
    Religions Spitzberg Jew
    Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Hygiene Anvelt Jew
    Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
    Press Volodarski Jew
    Elections Ouritski Jew
    Justice I. Steinberg Jew
    Refugees Fenigstein Jew
    Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
    Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew


    “The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee:


    NAME NATIONALITY
    Sverdlov (president) Jew
    Avanessof (sec.) Armenian
    Bruno Lett
    Babtchinski Jew
    Bukharin Russian
    Weinberg Jew
    Gailiss Jew
    Ganzburg Jew
    Danichevski Jew
    Starck German
    Sachs Jew
    Scheinmann Jew
    Erdling Jew
    Landauer Jew
    Linder Jew
    Wolach Czech
    Dimanstein Jew
    Encukidze Georgian
    Ermann Jew
    Joffe Jew
    Karkline Jew
    Knigissen Jew
    Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew
    Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Krylenko Russian
    KrassikofSachs Jew
    Kaprik Jew
    Kaoul Lett
    Ulyanov (lenin) Russian
    Latsis Jew
    Lander Jew
    Lounatcharski Russian
    Peterson Lett
    Peters Lett
    Roudzoutas Jew
    Rosine Jew
    Smidovitch Jew
    Stoutchka Lett
    Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
    Sosnovski Jew
    Skrytnik Jew
    Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
    Teodorovitch Jew
    Terian Armenian
    Ouritski Jew
    Telechkine Russian
    Feldmann Jew
    Froumkine Jew
    Souriupa Ukranian
    Tchavtchevadze Georgian
    Scheikmann Jew
    Rosental Jew
    Achkinazi Imeretian
    Karakhane Karaim (Jew)
    Rose Jew
    Sobelson (Radek) Jew
    Sclichter Jew
    Schikolini Jew
    Chklianski Jew
    Levine (Pravdine) Jew


    “The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow:


    NAME NATIONALITY
    Dzerjinski (president) Pole
    Peters (vice-president) Lett
    Chklovski Jew
    Kheifiss Jew
    Zeistine Jew
    Razmirovitch Jew
    Kronberg Jew
    Khaikina Jewess
    Karlson Lett
    Schaumann Jew
    Leontovitch Jew
    Jacob Goldine Jew
    Glaperstein Jew
    Kniggisen Jew
    Latzis Lett
    Schillenkuss Jew
    Janson Lett
    Rivkine Jew
    Antonof Russian
    Delafabre Jew
    Tsitkine Jew
    Roskirovitch Jew
    G. Sverdlof Jew
    Biesenski Jew
    Blioumkine Jew
    Alexandrevitch Russian
    I. Model Jew
    Routenberg Jew
    Pines Jew
    Sachs Jew
    Daybol Lett
    Saissoune Armenian
    Deylkenen Lett
    Liebert Jew
    Vogel German
    Zakiss Lett

    http://heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
     
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    Sorry, but the Nazis had re education camps too. What is Europe thinking?
     
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    What starts in Europe somehow winds up here in the states. The "One World Goverment" crowd are dancing in the streets over this. Lefties rant and rave against facism, nazism, socialism, communism but embrace it all under different names. It disquises itself under a different cloak such as evironmentalism, compassionateism, disarmamentism, liberalism, Bernieism, etc. I sometimes think Russia and China are the least of our worries.
     
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    And what is the significance of this to you? Is it a reference to Jewish support for the Democrat Party in the US and how the Left's ongoing acts of violence against the political process may be an indicator of worse things to come?
     
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    It never stops there.
     
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    Glad they didn't have people like you who had the power when our forefathers founded our great country.
     
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    Europeans have to undergo this process every generation or two looking for a 'system' , or whatever, to shake up the social order.

    While constantly complaining of Americans, their Second Amendment, and gun violence, Europeans tend have their killings spread over a few years, when upwards of 20 million people die during that period. They will come to their senses finally when there are fewer citizens to murder, try a new system for a while, return to criticizing gun laws in America once more, and then began their cycle again.This time their system will restrict free speech and encourage 're-education' camps. Of course had they educated their citizens more broadly during their school years these camps would prove to be largely unnecessary..

    Even the most poorly educated European must know that more of them have been killed by guns over there than has ever happened in the US, but they tend to disregard their bloody history and its statistics when lecturing the US, and will instead praise whatever political ideas they have to be going through at the time.
     
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    oh, you'd be suprised.. shows how little you know of me or your founding fathers.. we're quite alike in most respects.
     
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    You are correct and if really wanted to make the world great again we would execute all communists. But that is not practical.
     
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    Is it not the intention of liberal thought that they should rewrite history and serve up new pap that is more in conformance what they think the world ought to be?

    Already you have groups in the government who are attacking the !st Amendment and want to regulate all news under the banner of equal time. Of course this more directed at talk radio.

    You have groups in government who are attacking the 2nd Amendment and have the sole purpose of disarming America.

    You have groups in government who constantly are shredding the 4th Amendment with the passing of laws to infringe upon your privacy in your home, internet and e-mail.

    The 6th Amendment has been violated so many times that it is no wonder that so many good people have unjustly been sent to prison having been represented in courts by incompetants.

    The 8th Amendment has been consistantly under attack to be abolished. The pampering of murderers is definitely a liberal cause.
     
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    If we had subjected ourself to such civilized authority as the British we would be a third world economy still paying for the upkeep of a bunch of spoiled useless Royals (except Kate of course).
     
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    yeah, just look how poor canada, australia, and new zealand are today.
     
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    There is no doubt that these former colonies benefited from being a part of Great Britain rather than Spain, France, Germany or any other European colonizer.

    However that was the Britain that was. There is no way now that any of these countries, or the USA had it not broken free, would allow themselves to be ruled through Brussels. This is the most shameful occurrence in British history and a wonderful example of what can happen when a country loses its culture and confidence. In fact that is now the case throughout western Europe. Again they hope to be saved and their future assured living under the control a powerful bureaucracy.
     
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    Sounds like another fantasy about liberals American right wingers create. I have never met anyone who wanted to rewrite history. There is of course always a battle of curriculum and what parts of a nations history should be focused on.
    The rest of your post has no relevance to Europe nor does it sound like anything other than hooligan politics which is so common around here.
     
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    What should shock you is a law against free speech
     
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    It's a hallmark of "authoritarianism", which is often discussed with reference to those societies.

    Class consciousness goes up and down, and for much of the twentieth century, the working class was indeed very class conscious in many countries. The fact that we're in a bit of a period of reaction and people aren't very aware these days does not mean that people are never going to know what's best for them or be able to tell when a system is screwing them over.

    I meant liberalism in the loosest sense, the sense in which it is broadly used in Europe and in most political theory. We're both Europeans; let's not use weird American redefinitions :p

    To an extent, yes, in the sense that compromise and leadership of some sort is going to be needed, but this doesn't have to take the form of a state or a permanent, institutionalised coercive agent.

    He was a Weberian-tradition sociologist, most of whose thought is relatively obscure outside of Germany and continental circles these days. You'd undoubtedly disagree with the later stages of his political evolution (he became a fascist) but your acknowledgement of the necessity and occasional benevolence of the state and coercion reminded me a bit of his variant of elite theory, which is kind of an extension of such acknowledgement. He argued that all organisation ultimately develops an "elite" and becomes oligarchic due to a need for greater organisational streamlining and the greater charisma and leadership skills of certain individuals - and that this isn't necessarily a bad thing. According to Michels, the idea of ensuring absolute democracy is political self-denial.
     
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    Jews typically do ole Ron.

    That's not even an insult, I was referring to the heritage in which you and I have previously conversed about.
     
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    we have good reason to hate Communists and Nazis.
     
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    Might be, but authoritarianism is not fascism.
    it's possible they might one day be smart enough. but anything is possible. The question is, how realistic is it? Is it a good idea to base your actions around it? i think not.
    indeed.. Americans mess up the definitions of many words.. makes no sense at all. In the european sense, i am a liberal. a conservative one.
    So you are an anarchist then? But what about bandits? what about stability, what about protecting the weak?
    I haven't heard of weberism either, but I could look it up because i find such things interesting. But.. I don't think i'd agree much. I'm not actually a big government person. What I mean is, I don't believe the state should have such a big role as continental conservatism usually thinks it should. In this regard, I'm more of an anglo-saxon conservative. Thomas sowell and William buckley are people I agree most with. So I'm a "fusionist" I think. not religious though.
     
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    simply being a Holocaust denier, 9-11 denier, will not get anyone sent to a education camp.

    this is just paranoid silliness.
     
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    Isn't it already illegal in some European countries to deny the Holocaust? A 're-education camp' would seem to be the next step.
     
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    What happens in Europe today, happens in the US tomorrow.......
     
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    About (*)(*)(*)(*)ing time, I hope it will be in Siberia as well, they already got the infrastructure and the cold is great for the memory. use pollish guards, they are close, cheap and love their work.
     
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    That freedom pf speech is not anarchy and has its limits as long as you live in a society, you can blimb a mountain and scream your worst against poorest group in the world or do that in your home but no child needs to see such scum in the street and listen to his dark pervert hatred just because he can, there is nothing good out of it.
     
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    So criticizing the poor would be one reason to send people off to re-education camps?
     

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