High School Boy Wins All-State Honors In Girls Track And Field

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  1. Kranes56

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    As someone who kinda is an athlete she accomplished something that she was dedicated to and wanted to do. Honor the commitment, not the person.
     
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    she/he should be in the special category class of its own.. come on be real next it will cyborgs half female human half machine
    [​IMG] in all types of sports
     
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    But it wasn't fair competition. Do you not understand the physical differences between male and female?
     
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    there just getting us ready for cyborgs the left will just except it ,
    give it up you cant put REAL in there heads any more there gone way down the globalist matrix road for ever lost.
     
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    I think you even missed some more important in this story...

    “For the purposes of gender identification for interscholastic activities, the district will consider the gender identity based on the student’s consistent declaration of gender identity, their actions, attitude, dress and mannerisms,” the policy states.

    that means their policy even contradicts what we're often told, which is you can't judge someones sexuality based on mannerisms, dress, actions, attitude, etc etc etc... so they literally have a policy that discriminates based on how someone looks or acts versus what they are... does this mean a "butch lesbian" should not be permitted to play on the womens teams, because she acts like a man, dresses like a man, has the same mannerisms etc etc that a man does... so not only does their policy clearly allow for inconsistent interpretation, it opens the door for lets say people to argue someone who dresses and acts like a man can't play on the womens team despite being a woman...

    its just so much horrible logic that fails on itself when challenged... women are truly bearing the brunt of this social experiment... not only having their rest rooms taken away, but their scholarships and spots on teams that were MANDATED in many cases to exist so girls had the same opportunity that male students had... now even thats not safe or guaranteed...
     
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    Sure, but not on gender. Makes no sense to have the division be on gender.

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    I know enough to spot the beginnings of a sexist argument.
     
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    Transgendered individuals should be allowed to compete in sports, especially in school, but it is unfair to cisgendered women to allow people who went through puberty as men to compete in their sports leagues. All transgendered athletes should be required to compete in men's leagues.
     
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    A sexist argument? I asked if you know the physical differences between male and female? You can't answer?

    I don't care what someone identifies as, if they were born male then they have an unfair advantage due to strength and muscle capabilities that females do not and cannot have naturally. So you think it's fair that the male competed against natural born females and won? You cheer this on?
     
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    Calling it a sexist argument is the left's way to put you on the defensive when they have nothing intelligent to debate with; it's same as when they call you a racist.
     
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    If you're somehow implying that men are inherently stronger then females that argument goes in the face of individuality. Hence why I said I know enough. Imagine a girl born with a mutation that made her stronger then even men with only the most minimal of effort she could tap into this and be the best in whatever sport she so chooses. Is that not in effect the exact same type of discrimination that you seem to be against here?
     
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    Couldn't he compete with boys in track and field?
     
  12. Steve N

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    That's exactly what he should be doing. Sports isn't an identity thing, it's a physical thing and that boy is a boy.
     
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    Women has stated emphatically that they want to be treated equally.
    Using the logic of men being typically stronger (in some areas) than women we should also segragete basketball football and track by race as Africans destroy all others in each.

    A better method would be divisions by weight class much like boxing and mma does; the argument of "well your a girl, you automatically go here" doesn't seem very equal in my opinion.

    Why not let people compete to their individual merit?
     
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    I wonder what his times were. I wasn't even a 100 sprinter and I could run an 11.0 100m in high school. It was good enough to beat 99% of the girls in my district, not that that should mean anything. My point is, he didn't accomplish much.
     
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    That's what I thought. 5th place and 3rd place? He cheats and that's still the best he can do? Reminds me of the movie "The Ringer"
     
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    Hi, I'm not on the left! But the definition of sexism is basing external traits on a person's sex in such a way that demeans a gender. Sounds like the basic argument being made by those that oppose her and her accomplishments.
     
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    No, muscle mass capabilities is not about individuals. It's a FACT that men have more muscle mass and can build muscle faster than any female. I lifted for years, and without taking steriods, I would never have enough muscle mass on me to ever be able to compete against a male. The mutation you mention doesn't exist. Even if a woman has a high testosterone level, it still doesn't even come close to a low level for a male. There is not argument here, it's all anatomy facts. So yes, I'm implying that men are inherently stronger than females.
     
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    Bizarro world. What a joke we've become.
     
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    No matter how anyone spins it, there are physical differences between male and female. If you don't know them, then you shouldn't be commenting on this thread.
     
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    A 220 pound man can be the perfect specimen of athletic prowess. On the other hand, a 220 pound woman...well...probably not.
     
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    Cool! Glad to know you lifted. Something tells me that you then as an athlete would know a few things about the human body in relationship to sports. The best person for a team is not necessarily the strongest. Too many other things go into making a team possible for mere strength to be the only factor. Now did I claim that the woman born with the mutation has to be stronger then men? No. All she has to do is be so much better then her league due to her DNA putting her into a different one. And am I correct in assuming you are not a geneticist? How do you can claim about the existence of genes when humans still don't know everything about their genealogy? So it makes more sense for sports teams to be based on skill, rather then sex.
     
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    You are chosing to ignore basic human anatomy in defense of transgenders who want to identify as females. This entire male/female things is so far out of hand that some are now trying to pretend there are no differences.
     
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    My niece could crush a softball and weighed about 160-170 in her prime playing college ball, but she quit playing select baseball with the boys at age 14. Probably because she had to choose between baseball and softball at high school and select leagues quit at that age. She is a good athlete, but she can't quite keep up with the guys in her coed softball league. At 28, she is more past her prime than the average 28 year old guy.
     
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    We've even broken down billiards to men's and woman's divisions.
     

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