High School Boy Wins All-State Honors In Girls Track And Field

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  1. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I'm for trans-rights with regards to most sectors of life, sports and physical/athletic competition shouldn't be one of them. Well, sort of. And here is where my blatant sexism comes into play. Born-Men individuals shouldn't be allowed to compete in female sports, but born-females should be allowed to compete (if able) with men.

    There are inherent immutable physical characteristics that men and women don't share. Men will (generally) have an edge over women when it comes to muscle mass.

    If I were a women racing someone who was born a male, I would be pissed.
     
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    Agreed.

    IMO Identify however you want it doesn't bother me, use any bathroom you feel comfortable with doesn't bother me. But you have to compete as the physical gender of your birth.
     
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    I think it's run by the NEA and the teachers union.
     
  4. RichT2705

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    Probably not, but in practice when it's a guy on girl, that guy is always sent packing without hesitation. Will be interesting to see when the inevitable inconsistencies of gender "identification" reveal themselves, and they will.
     
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    Yes. That helps explain why males are so much like gorillas.
    :smile:
     
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    Sorry, those 2 statements run into each other. You cant say it's ok to identify...but then reveal you dont really believe that identifier to have any merit.

    If you believe the latter, why say it's ok to identify as what they want at all?

    The entire "identify" against the facts issue is pure , inconsistent nonsense.
     
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    No, I do not

    Feel free to answer my question at your convenience.
     
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    In amateur tennis tournament play someone can play down to an age group that is younger than their own. But no one from that younger group can play up among the older players. It's an unfair advantage. Same principle.
    What the hell is wrong with Alaska?
     
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    Because identity is harmless, while performance is advantageous.
     
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    Seriously? You don't even acknowledge gender advantages and disadvantages on the sporting field? How much do you actually know about sport?
     
  11. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Ha, what a puss... This isn't anything worth being happy about. Dude should be ashamed of himself. I'll be glad when this mentality goes back into the basement where it belongs, in 2017.
     
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    No, in an attempt to coddle the girls crying foul, the left will rewrite the rules and allow the females a 5 second head start. Then the boys will cry foul and by the time it's all said and done, the left will just stop the sport in its entirety. I miss the days when common sense was allowed in schools and government.
     
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    Kinda like the old East German swim team. :)

    But seriously, people warned that forcing schools to accommodate men who are pretending they are women would hurt the real deals.

    Looks like that day has come...

    The question in my mind is when are females - especially female athletes - going to stand up against this nonsense?
     
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    Sorry, but if you are allowed to identify as a Female...does this not allow you access to everything females have access to? If not, what is the point of it at all?


    Sure you can say you're female...but you cannot be considered one for all intents and purposes?

    Sounds like maybe you should just be honest and not try to skirt some line of saying something which sounds good for the sake of being PC. You obviously dont really believe in this nonsesnse either.


    Perhaps this is a good example of why feelings cannot be the basis for anything, when they run counter to the facts? You cant have any real consistency with regards to feelings.
     
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    Put it this way. I think being a prejudiced person is harmless... it's a thought or maybe a slogan on a t-shirt. Yet, when you apply your prejudice in a manner that affects your peers (employment opportunity) it's a problem.

    Likewise, I think gender identification is harmless... it's a thought or maybe the type of clothes you wear. Yet, when you apply your identification in a manner that affects your peers (sporting opportunity) it's a problem.
     
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    Maybe in tennis or Golf that would be ok....I'm not sure that Boxing or MMA is going to be a good idea, but sure. Let Rousey fight Bigfoot Silva lol...
     
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    Big difference in those two scenarios Venom. We are allowing them to do alot more than just wear a TShirt that says I'm a girl. You yourself have even said you would side with the facts in competition. Those facts are that Men have an Advanatage in some areas.

    Seems the identifier is pointless, when people will still side with the Biological facts doesnt it? Just something people say, to sound good and not hurt feelings, but obviously not really believeing that this person is what they identify as...or you'd give them the full plate.
     
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    Her? At a genetic level, this is a man, with all the muscular and athletic advantages that men typically have over women. You realize that, right?
     
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    Women are hairy little monkeys, they just shave it off.
     
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    Well, I think this is just a case of detractors wanting us to give the full plate so they can say "Look, I told you it was a bad idea", and that may be why you're adamant about not acknowledging the differences in identity and action. I don't have a problem with gender identity... I have a problem with it's application when used to slight others. Women are not harmed if a man identifies as a woman. It's not something that just happened this year... men have been at this for decades. However, women are harmed if these hybrids decide to start competing in things restricted to women.
     
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    Shame on him and everyone who accommodates and applauds this nonsense.

    Several girls got punished for accommodating his gender fantasy...
     
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    They don't want things to work the way it was intended, and has been intended to work for thousands of years. I blame it on the chemical imbalance.
     
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    If you can Identify as something, but not get full access to that something...sorry Venom, it's not a real affirmation. Why not just be honest about it like those of us who believe it's BS and not afraid to say it?

    If you really believed in those Idenfitiers, you'd have 0 places where you didnt allow it. Just take a stand, and stop trying to straddle the line.


    By the way, we alreay told you it's a bad idea from the get go...but the "science loving left" seems to think fantasy overrides facts.
     
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    Been to Europe lately? :omfg:

    A lot of the women haven't discovered the razor yet...
     

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