Obama, GOP have pushed me to Libertarianism

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Throughout the course of less than one year, I have made a vast change in political ideology. I've watched this nation spiral out of control. I mean (*)(*)(*)(*) has hit the fan. Obama has destroyed race relations in this country. He uses the funeral of heroic police officers (who used their bodies as human shields) to push a political agenda. He made George W. Bush look like a savior in that speech. Obama has these racist BLM leaders over to the white house. Obama has enjoyed watching Iran take full advantage of this idiotic deal. Obama negotiated with the Taliban to release five Generals for a junior enlisted traitor of the United States. Obama has gutted our military to the lowest I've seen it since I've been in. Obama mocked Romney in the debates about the Russian threats and is now a fool himself for not listening (our Russian trolls have taken full advantage of that). Obama is by far the worst President the United States has ever seen. His approach to take rights away from citizens has been the icing on the cake for me.

    And what's next on the liberal agenda? An even more corrupt- the most corrupt politician. The fact that they are pushing this criminal for President speaks volumes of their mass corruption.

    WAIT- I'm not done.

    GOP. What the hell is going on? I used to be a proud Republican and centered values with true Republicanism. This is going right out the window. Trump is CRAZY. He's also a long time friend of the criminal Hillary. He may not like her now, but he did for years (as long as she's been corrupt). Also, how is it that Ted Cruz and Trump are the front runners? All the GOP needs to defeat the corrupt criminal and serial liar, Hillary Clinton, is someone who isn't crazy. It's that simple. Any sane politician can destroyyyyyyy Hillary the criminal Clinton. There's no truth in the GOP right now. There's no structure. I feel not enough measures are being done by the current GOP to secure our liberties from the extremist left wing.

    What happened to our country?
     
  2. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Luckily, they thought YOU, were the crazy one.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you elaborate?
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I think you are jumping from the frying pan into the fire, but what do I know? I was a Libertarian for decades, but now, with some age and experience on me, I find I'm attracted to the Populist Nationalist message of Trump. Go figure.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush started two 10+ year wars and tanked the economy, not to mention created the patriot act.....

    yet it's Obama you call the worst President ever?

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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The patriot act is another example. Thank you for bringing that up. Though I was not speaking of Bush, you can add him to this discussion. The patriot act is a good reason to add on top of the bigoted, corrupt, un-American President we have now. Not to mention the two complete morons the public will vote for the next term. Ol Hildabeast will certainly lock us into WW3. She's not even President yet and she's been threatening Russia. The Russians can't wait for her to win.

    Anyway. Both parties have completely failed.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "He made George W. Bush look like a savior in that speech."

    I thought you were speaking of Bush and already added him to the conversation, my mistake

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  8. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh sorry. I was not speaking of W's presidency. I was just referencing their speeches at the Dallas Police Officers' service. I thought Bush's speech was incredibly professional and patriotic, and I thought Obama's was a complete disgrace.

    I was not comparing them from any other angle.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You could have given us real trouble, if enough of you suggested dumping the Drumpf.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With Trump's past, I just don't trust him.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought they both did fine, the fact that they came together was a good sign imo

    too bad Congress can not do the same
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is gonna revamp the educational system, use Trump University as a template :)

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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush doesn't ever speak ill about Obama. It's why I've gained more respect for him over the years.

    I very much agree on Congress. Congress needs to be replaced. I'm embarrassed of my whole entire government. Congress more than Obama. Mainly because Congress have the power to do something about Obama, and especially the criminal Clinton (who will win the election). Congress favored the Patriot Act as well.

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    My god. Every time I hear his name I wonder what happened to the GOP
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush spoke ill of Clinton.... Obama did not pass on the country to Bush, Clinton did
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bill Clinton is a god compared to this disaster. Takes a strong person to not criticize. Very respectable.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    reminds me of this movie

    [video=youtube;icmRCixQrx8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8[/video]
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me too
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Clinton did it" was a slogan for awhile cause Bush blamed Clinton so much

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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This seems to be getting pretty defensive. We're straying off track. I don't care about Bush or Bill. I'm talking about our current and future crisis.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your the one that took us in this direction, I was just responding....
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I explained where the confusion lied. The mere mention of Bush was just to discuss his speech and how it was superior. His presidency was not at all a point of discussion. We're discussing three items.

    Our current failure in chief and our two potential disasters of Presidents. We can also discuss the race war the administration has started.
     
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    which is fine, but the ops post sets the tone, probably would of been best not to mention Bush sounding like a savior if you do not want to discuss Bush

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    I do wish republicans in Congress the last 6 years would of been like the republicans under Clinton..... rather then Obstructionists

    send bills to Obama to sign, do some actual work to fix things..... if Obama veto's them, then they can complain.....

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    Correct. Republicans (Newt especially) did a good job under Clinton. The problem today is that both left and right are creating laws to spite one another. Created this vacuum of stupid that they can't get out of.
     
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    Republican entertainment happened to this country, that's what has happened to this country. Republicans no longer need to be confronted with evidence and reason. They are free to spread misinformation without restraint. The result is they have become more extreme, more radical, and become a threat to the health and well-being of the nation. That is what has happened to this country. That's how Republicans got Trump.

    Libertarianism is just another extreme form of the Republican Party. It doesn't buy you anything. Unfortunately for you and those like you words have meanings, and Hillary isn't a criminal. You have absolutely no evidence that she is. What you have is nearly 30 years of mindless repetitions of Republican slur campaigns against Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately for those like you, evidence and reason still matter to most Americans.

    What evidence do you have to support your assertion Obama is the worst president ever....the color of his skin? The unfortunate fact for you is that Obama has cut the deficit he inherited by half. He has turned an economy which was shrinking at an annualized rate of 10% and turned it into an economy which has recovered all of its substantial losses during the Great Recession which began in 2007 and turned it into an economy which has been steadily growing now for 7 plus years. For 6 years now, the economy has been steadily adding between 100k and 300k private sector jobs, thanks to Obama's stimulus packages and rescuing of the auto industry. Now most people would consider those good things. Only Republicans view those accomplishments as bad things.

    Yeah, Trump is crazy. But there is a reason why he is crazy. It's people like you. And the thing is, Trump isn't even the craziest person on the right wing e.g. Cruz. Cruz is the guy who wants to cause a debt default and thinks it would be a good thing. I bet you like Cruz. :)
     

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