It's not your 'medicine' you just want to get high so be honest.

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  1. Penrod

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    The point is if you ingest or smoke the same quantity you get higher longer eating it. Besides i get my edibles from a dispensary no need to bake anything. Few doobies light me up at this point.
     
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    No, you don't. If you ate just the amount for a bowl, you probably won't even get high. But if you smoked a bowl, you would.

    God said, "let us create man in our image." The Holy Trinity!
    That does not mean God created us just like Him.
     
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    Yes if were talking about simply catching a quick buzz smoking is better. But there is a point where eating it works better if you ingest enough
     
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    Human instinct has not changed one iota. The conditions invoking instinct has changed, which is why was have the 9th amendment.

    We are living and the 9th amendment serves us to make needed changes but we must have unity upon our definitions of rights not written in order to see them written

    Can you define a way for state citizens to create the unity required to use our law to make needed changes other than free speech?

    What great sacrifice or compromise do you suffer by agreeing and accepting the logical elements of these inquiries as constitutional intent?

    Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

    Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?
     
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    Cigarettes give you lung cancer too. Booze makes SOME people lazy as well. What's your point?
     
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    I like to smoke pot, but easily more than 1% of users I know do it for medical reasons. Some of them also like it, but there are a good handful that use it for legit reasons. One in particular is an old man with white hair who smokes indica because of the way it affects the body (a "body high") and relives chronic back pain. Another uses it in conjunction with anxiety meds. I joked that he's anxious because he's on weed, but it really does help, even though he basically enjoys it.

    Many other friends use it to cope with PTSD. As far as comparing it to booze, booze has medicinal properties for specific usage. Doesn't seem like a great example. You might as well be saying that no one needs oxy, morphine, or basically any other pain relievers because they can be used for recreational purposes and the medicinal use is just a cover. It'd make.about as much sense.

    EDIT: adding a couple things. First for clarity, everyone I know who does it for medicinal reasons also likes it, but I kind of take that for granted. Second, something can be recreation and medicinal uses. They're not mutually exclusive.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson was an ass. I don't give a damn what he intended people to do 200 years later. The constitution provides a mechanism for it's own altering, so I think it's self evident the guys that wrote it expected it to be changed.

    There is no ultimate purpose to free speech. One reason, I think it's important is because multiple perspectives are valuable and free speech allows our society to collect many different points of view. You may have a different reason for valuing it. But free speach doesn't exist for your reason or mine, it exists because enough of the 319 million partners who own this country value it (each for our own reasons).

    Two hundred years ago, human instinct was that white males should rule the planet. I think we've moved more than an iota from that world view. (at least it's my hope)



     
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    Pot should be regulated and taxed just like alcohol. Simple.


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    So? Your opinions also do not trump the constitution. It just applies to everybody now. Our rights are one of THE most important things that we have!
     
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    We agree on one thing: my opinions alone do not trump the constitution. A right is what you're owed. It's kind of sad that the most important thing to you is not what you produce, but what you think you'll receive.



     
  11. ChrisL

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    What on earth are you babbling about? Like it or not, your rights are precious! What's the matter with you?
     
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    Some things are morally equivalent, some are not. Do you believe there is some inherent moral danger in marijuana that makes it substantially more dangerous than beer and cigarettes?
     
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    I don't understand your question. Do you?



     
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    Excellent point. Alcohol is profoundly more addictive and detrimental than weed.
     
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    Yea! What's the matter with you that you don't understand how important it is that you are ALLOWED to have rights? Damn.
     
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    Pot is legal now in many states.
    We love being lied to. That's why politicians have influence and why a creative marketing strategy sells.
     
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    You think you only have freedom of speech because someone allowed you to speak?



     
  18. GeorgiaAmy

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    Pot is legal in many states now. Alcohol was prohibited but the citizenry forced the overtirn of prohibition. Blue laws in the south prohibited Sunday sales, gambling, pornography and such for a long time. Not the case anymore. The legality of any was ultimately determined by what constituents wanted. As their desires changed, so did laws.
     
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    Opioids. Legally prescribed opioids... Much more problematic than pot.
     
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    I think that a lot of liberal beliefs can be traced back to psychiatric drugs, which cause an inability to feel things like anxiety and depression in circumstances where it would be natural to feel anxious, disturbed or depressed. One of the more obvious examples of this could be on terror policies, a person who is on anti-anxiety medication and calls everyone who is worried bigots shouldn't be taken seriously.
     
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    Because if you give the government power over your rights, then you are giving them power over YOU! :roll:
     
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    Cigarette smoking was vilified and prohibited in public places. That's what opened the door for the vaping business.
     
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    Millions of people are medicated, it doesn't particularly matter where they fall politically, nor does it actually lead to one political side or the other. Anti-anxiety medications don't take away anxiety, nor do anti-depressants take away depression. These medications don't work the way you think.
     
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    Anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants reign in handicapping extremes. They limit the range...make it more manageable. Closer to more mormal variation.
     
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    Helps with neuropathic pain. Studied and peer reviewed.
    Can provide a neuroprotective effect against alzheimers.
    Better for many chronic pain patients than oxy or other opiods.

    For many? It's just dope. For others? It's medicine.

    You don't like it? Don't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing smoke it. You like it but want to be a snob? Keep it to yourself.
     

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