Sad Days To Be A Trump Supporter

Does anybody remember when the Trump Primary Run reached it's zenith?

Especially, in April (up until the Indiana Primary).

When PF was inundated with the "Trump is going to beat Hillary in a Landslide" crowd.

Have you noticed how the vast majority of those chest-puffing Trump supporters have disappeared (not wanting to face up to their delusional rantings)?

Now, the vast majority (of those that remain, both at PF and other places) have resigned themselves to a Hillary victory (while screaming things like "rigged" and "voter fraud").

Sure, a few of the delusional "Trump or Bust" crowd still exists (both at PF and other places), but it has become clear that Trump is headed for a crushing defeat. Bank it.

So my question is this:

Do you agree with the premise that, in light of Trump's heady Primary Run (and his predictable (crashing downfall)),

These are "Sad Days To Be A Trump Supporter"?

 

I seriously, seriously feel sorry for Trump supporters.

I've never seen people so delusional about something so obvious.

I literally stood in the Book Store at a book group and talked to a Trump Supporter about how "hillary is going to pull ahead...at least 10 points" BEFORE any of the polls came out. The guy is an anesthesiologist and physicist, smart guy, but all he could see are "NUMBERS" and all the polls at that time right after the DNC convention said Trump is up by +3 or so.

So he was saying "clearly Trump will win, that's what the polls say".

I likened it to a storm, polls are looking straight up seeing blue sky, but I look to the horizon and see a coming storm. "Gut feeling and emotion" are that horizon.

I knew after the DNC Convention that DNC is 100% professional, 110% motivated, and comparing it with RNC Convention I could feel....what polls could not reveal.

And now here we are...these poor deluded saps...confronting a "but why did Trump lose" sorrow when to the rest of us it was painfully obvious why and that it was inevitable!

 

I too feel for Trump supporters. I feel joy every time I think of these people crying themselves to sleep at night because their Cheetos Jesus currently doesn't have a chance of winning. Sure, things could change on a dime, particularly with Putin doing his best to help Trump out, but it feels good to see that Trump isn't just losing, he's losing by a lot.

 

All it would take is for Clinton - or one of her staff - to say ONE crazy thing and the race swings back.

Personally, I think both candidates are toxic, but for Clinton supporters to start relaxing is the surest way to see Trump in
the WH. All it would take is for a lax electorate not to show thinking the election is won.

 

Well said.

I am sure many have had similar experiences.

But, honestly, I still find myself stupefied when I see an intelligent professional person supporting Trump.

The caricature of the "undereducated white voter" that serves as an avatar for Trump's supporters, is well accepted as being representative of his true base of support.

But, for the educated people (who just can't stand Hillary), Trump has been a major disappointment.

I pity those people the most.

 

I can understand their frustration with government and their wanting to make a statement - just sorry that
their concerns were lost in the persona of Trump. He was just the wrong choice for a movement.

 

(Emphasis added)

Inundated? Never happened, cite it or retract.

The only thing "inundating" these forums for some time are rule-breaking duplicative Trump bashing threads based on emotional appeals...like this thread for example. The only "chest-thumping" going on is among those posters dishonestly seeking to keep turnout low, stave off Trump campaign contributions, and appeal to mouth breathers who vote based on "being on the winning team."

This thread itself is ironically QED of what incessant projections the Democrats need to rationalize voting for an incompetent crook.

Rest of the OP post is just more of the same gibberish. Why am I not surprised?

 

There's no such thing as a Trump supporter or Hillary. There's simply people who are going to check a box next to Trump or Hillary on election day then go eat lunch and forget about it. To assign any sort of real affiliation to the average voter is silly. Why Trump has the advantage in this election just as in the John Kerry election is because people see Hillary as the entitled one just as they saw Kerry. No average American wants to see an entitled person elected. That's why the drunkard good 'ol boy Bush was voted in. People wanted to "stick it to the entitled elitist Kerry" (which was ironic of course considering Bush was just as entitled).

Americans always elect the perceived person they can have a beer with. Not the person they perceive as any form of "Government Elite". Such is why Bush won vrs Kerry and such is why I believe Trump will win vrs Hillary.

 

No, Don't you understand?

It's like a child discovering Santa Clause isn't real.

I pity them that way, the same as I don't laugh at a child who cries when he finds out presents are actually from parents.

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That's stupid. As if people didn't see Bush as the "entitled" one? Annointed by daddy, Billionaire, extreme failure at business.

No one cares about that.

It comes down to two things.

1) People think you can do the job.
2) You have amazing ground game.

Bush had #2.

Clinton has both.

Trump has neither.

 

Don't get me wrong when I say this but you are being just as deluded as the Trump supporters. I despise Trump. I believe that his supporters are delusional but do not take a momentary rise in the polls as guaranteed victory. We cannot take a victory lap. We must keep up the pressure on Trump everyday. The more pressure he has on him the worse he does and the worse he looks. I don't care if Hillary goes up by 20 points in the polls. I will not be satisfied until the election is called for Hillary in November. The polls can especially fickle in the summer especially on August when many people are on vacation. Don't put too much stock in them. Don't feel sorry Trump's chumps either. They made their bed and now have to lay in it.

 

I agree.
Anyone who underestimates Trump is a fool.
He will do everything he can get away with, legal and illegal, to smear Clinton and hope that the voters are content with that.
Colluding with Putin, bribing Assange, lying brazenly, are all viable tactics that he will use. Who knows what else he is capable of?

But the best strategy is to keep baiting him and then watch him spend a week responding spastically to every perceived slight.
He simply can't let anything go, so he is easy to manipulate.
From his mafia connections to his Russian influence peddling, serial adultery and wife abuse, Trump University lawsuits, business scandals and bankruptcies, ridiculous hair and small hands, missing tax returns and effeminate and petulant physical tics, there is a goldmine of material to pick from to keep him ranting incoherently like he did in his Florida speech on Wednesday.

 

They deserve it. Anyone willing to support that disgusting pile of trash deserves all the ridicule people are willing to give them. Comrade Trump has only one chance... he better hope his Russian friends steal something real good!

 

Yep, very well stated. The dems stand for nothing, they have nominated the worst possible, most corrupt and unprincipled member of the Washington ruling class with a huge record of failure and no agenda for the future. And yet they attempt to make fun of Trump supporters who stood for their principles, for new a direction, for changes in Washington, in trade deals, immigration policies... Yes, the messenger has failed the movement but there is a real movement, the dems on the other hand mindlessly toe the party line.

 

Hoping to be as sober about this as possible:

Trump won the primaries because among an incredibly crowded field, for a number of months, he did not even need the support of 26% of the voters who participated in the GOP primaries in order to rack-up enough delegates in order to be inevitable. The GOP is perhaps 27% of the US electorate. 26% of 27% = 7.02% of the overall electorate. But that is neither here nor there. He won the delegate game and basta.

Those who saw the writing on the wall knew about Trump's more than unorthodox style, his penchant to lie and lie big and above all else, his need to be the alpha male and crap on every other male in the room. It's in his nature to be this way and no one is going to change the man. It's the alpha-thing that keeps getting him in trouble over and over and over again.

He is now learning that that which brought him temporary gains in the GOP nomination process is not working for him in the GE, because the "clientele" that goes and votes in a GE is far larger, far more diverse and he has insulted large swaths of said electorate.

It's not just that he is losing big-time in national polling, losing in all of the battleground states and new battlegrounds are opening before our very eyes (GA, AZ, UT). It's that the internals say that he is absolutely getting crushed in the female vote by -20 or more, a deficit that is practically impossible to overcome by election day. He lied and said he is winning among minorities. He is not. In many polls, he is at 5% or considerably less in the black vote. A Latino-only poll centered on Florida has him at 12.6% in a state where George Bush (43) won 55% of the Latino vote just 12 years ago. In a state like Florida, where 18% or more of the electorate is going to be Latino, you cannot be even remotely competitive when you are only getting 12.6% of the Latino vote. Polls about whether or not he is qualified to be president present an equally bleak picture. On the whole, 60% of the electorate is saying that Donald Trump is not qualified to be president. Those are absolutely brutal numbers.

It's really simple math and the math points toward a major catastrophe heading directly toward the GOP solely because of it's choice nominee.

Clinton is not even advertising in Colorado right now, she is so far ahead. Colorado used to be an absolute CORE GOP state. She is now ahead in Georgia, a CORE GOP state. Trump is maybe, if he is lucky, only 9-10 points ahead of Clinton in Utah (the story of 2016, if you ask me), THE core state of all of the GOP. She is landsliding in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Michigan, she is statistically ahead in Virginia and North Carolina. Only in Ohio and Iowa does it look truly tossup-y, but that doesn't matter all that much. Without Ohio and Iowa, Clinton is still over 300 EV right now.

So, yeah, it's a disaster for the GOP and will likely also be a disaster down the line, with negative coattails all over the place. Already, in New Hampshire, Ayotte is losing by a landslide margin. It could end up being a political bloodbath. Wait and see.

-Stat

 

The Democratic Party stands for many, many things. It has the most extensive platform of all time. As for whether or not you like our candidate, who cares. It's your right to not like her if you wish. But that means absolutely nothing to me. So, pffft.

 

I think the biggest frustration for people who despise Clinton, is the daily realization that this was a eminently winnable election.

And the GOP nominated the worst possible candidate to take advantage of the fact the election was so incredibly winnable for the GOP.

Imagine the run Paul Ryan could've given Hillary.

 

Trump needs attention--he won't let the electorate forget about him.

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I pity them the least, unless they were supporting somebody else in the primaries. I don't blame the ones who embraced the inevitable, I blame the ones who supported Trump from the beginning.

 

The Democratic party stands for 2 things, loyal service to the 1 percenters and lip service to the minorities and the poor. The Republican party before Trump wasn't any better, loyal service to the 1 percenters and lip service for social and fiscal conservatives.

There's not a single group of population which is better off today than it was 8 or 16 years ago and this won't change in the next 4 years either. The Democrats have made sure of that by nominating the epitome of corrupt and self-serving Washington ruling classes.

 

Good point.

 

Time to plan for 8 years of Hillary, and then Kaine to keep the train rolling in 2024.

 

To paraphrase Paul Simon:

Trump supporters have squandered their resistance
For a pocketful of mumbles
Such are promises
All lies and jests

Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

[video=youtube;6JUbFj0BIc4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JUbFj0BIc4[/video]

 

I feel sorry for both Trump and Clinton supporters. What is it like to support cancer or aids

 

I think the polls are quite irrational at this point in time, not that they aren't what they are, but that they are reflecting a very irrational period in the electorate. It is a bit like a large lynch mob that has gathered together to stomp on a person, mainly because some other people are stomping on him, so they think he must be a really bad guy.

Yet, the person hasn't really done much different than what he's always been doing. It's just that a bunch of very emotionally charged self-righteous people decided they needed to stomp on him; lest their own wickedness and self-serving interests be stomped on.

The race has always been a battle between the good bully and the bad bully. As of now, the bad bullies are having their way, but I don't think the good bully is out for the count yet. And for the good of the nation, we should be hoping that he doesn't get knocked out, because like or not, the country needs the good bully.

 

Sure but what's to plan, nothing will change, the poor and middle class will keep getting poorer, the Washington elites will keep getting richer, more powerful, more arrogant and shameless...

In all fairness as a status quo candidate Hillary is not any better or worse than Jeb or Rubio or whoever, moreover she has already spat in the face of the uber-libs and progressives so many times that I am not particularly worried, she'll be moderate enough for my taste.

 

The really horrible part is that if the Republican Party could dump Trump and run someone who isn't crazy, they would trounce Clinton.